"Vow of Poverty" - the $7-million beach house of Rev. Mike Huckabee

[DemoTex]

"Vow of Poverty" or "No Outlet"
(my names for it, not Huckster's)
Blue Mountain Beach
Florida Panhandle
February 9, 2015

($7-million is the figure used by the locals, most of whom despise the Rev Mr Huckabee)

[Manifestor_of_Light]

1. Had to turn off Morning Schmo because he and his wife were on.

Talking about what a wonderful life they had with their kid who had trisomy of number 18.

Absolutely pukeworthy.

If having a handicapped kid is always so wonderful, why do some mothers of autistic kids (just one example I've heard about) drop dead from the stress????

[Tanuki]

2. That was Rick Santorum, not Huckabee. n/t

[Manifestor_of_Light]

5. They're all at the same level of stupid, sorry.

[philosslayer]

22. A few things

First off, you got the wrong guy, it was Santorum.

Secondly, I saw that interview. I am no Rick Santorum fan. However, if they genuinely believe their daughter has enriched their lives, who are you to say that she hasn't? Your post comes off as particularly bitter and hateful.

[atreides1]

30. Didn't see the interview

And I'm not a Santorum fan...but I know enough about him to realize that he'd use his dead grandmother for a PR prop!

He and his wife are about as genuine as a plastic flower!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

32. I'm saying that other people have different experiences.

Some people are completely worn down by taking care of a disabled child. Such as in the occasional case where someone cannot cope with the situation and kills the child because they are in extremis. Or in the secondhand quote I cited of mothers that drop dead from the stress.

Other people don't have the same resources the Santorums do, such as money for extra nurses, therapy, persons to relieve the parents when they need to rest or tend to their other children or whatever, above the bare bones the state or the Feds would provide to a disabled child.

[philosslayer]

33. Dropping dead of stress?

Killing the child? You are talking about the RAREST of rare exceptions. One in a million. Maybe.

I have several friends with handicapped children. They don't have extra nurses, and all the other things you cite. And they universally love their children and consider them a joy and addition to their lives. Its difficult, but they play the hand they've been dealt.

Again, I think Rick Santorum is a dolt. But if his child brings joy to his life, and he wants to let others know about it, I have no idea why that would prompt a bitter response.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

38. Well, that's nice.

I have a friend with a 30-something year old autistic child and she has worked with many groups who advocate for autistic children, and she has told me of several women who have dropped dead from stress.

Her child is high functioning but will never be able to hold down a job, and will never be able to be left alone at home. The child has been on disability for years. I don't know how big her sample size is.

[Chiyo-chichi]

3. What... no Christian flag?

[KG]

18. right below the stars and stripes

[Chiyo-chichi]

21. That's the flag of Florida.

And then either Arkansas or the Tabasco logo... not sure on that one.

[bullwinkle428]

4. Isn't it incredible what hate is capable of building?

[RadiationTherapy]

6. The new thing I hear from my christian FB friends is "favor."

"Favor [N]

Finding favor means gaining approval, acceptance, or special benefits or blessings. " http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/favor/

While this site doesn't necessarily make it about money, my FB friends essentially do. Occasionally it will be health rather than money, but it is almost always money. Some give thanks for being "favored" and some ask to be "favored." In any case, they seem to correlate it with their own piety - as in, if they are pious enough, it will pay in "special benefits or blessings"

[dilby]

17. It's bullshit, it's no where in the Bible that you get health and wealth.

This is something that is pushed by Joel Osteen and that d-bag is the only one getting wealth off the backs of the people who he sells it too.

[RadiationTherapy]

19. This stuff has been part of the "new age" movement for quite a while.

There are potions, crystals, astrological anticipations and so on that promise health and wealth. I am not surprised to see this. It is interesting how contrary it is to Jesus' message and it is such an obvious attempt to assuage the guilty greedy.

[dilby]

20. I am Jewish but read the New Testament.

I am blown away that Christians believe God took human form as a poor man, who lived off the charity of others, who did not have the best relationships and died a brutal painful death. But yeah they somehow think God wants them to be better off than he was in human form.

[RadiationTherapy]

31. All resolutions of cognitive dissonance probably look strange

to cultural outsiders. It looks strange to me, but it isn't surprising to me. hahaha.

[LiberalElite]

39. I was taught he was a carpenter -

so he had a job.

[erpowers]

7. Not Catholic

I am not a fan of Mike Huckabee, but he is not a Catholic. I far as I know it is only Catholic priests and nuns who take a vow of poverty. In addition, I believe the idea of what is called "the gospel of prosperity" is promoted by people in the evangelical movement.

I am not a religious scholar, but I believe most Catholics are okay with church members being wealthy, but asks that many priests and nuns live modestly. However, the evangelical movement promotes lavish living for both its church goers and the church leaders.

[RB TexLa]

9. And only in certain orders. Secular priests don't take a vow of poverty.

[immoderate]

27. Secular priests? What does that mean?

--imm

[RB TexLa]

40. Those are the priests who are assigned to a parish

Not in an order.

[immoderate]

41. Thanks. Whoda thunk? It sounds sort of oxymoronic.

imm

[DemoTex]

10. Just a caption ..

A play on words to emphasize a point (the juxtaposition of a true "vow of poverty" with the specious "gospel of prosperity" of Huckabee and his ilk). Mahatma Gandhi said, “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Gandhi would have LOVED Rev. Huckabee - NOT!

[Major Nikon]

12. It is true most don't take such a vow, but Matthew 6:24 is not ambiguous on the subject

No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

[erpowers]

37. You can Have Both

I think a person can have both wealth and God. I think a person cannot be someone that puts money above everything.

[Major Nikon]

46. Well, Jesus disagrees with you, because if verse 24 wasn't enough, 25-33 drive the point home

...and if that didn't do it, you'd best be proficient at shoving camels through needle eyes.

Or at least the person who wrote the gospel on behalf of Matthew disagrees with you.

[Tanuki]

8. I wonder what the citizens of Arkansas think of him moving to no-state-income-tax Florida

instead of letting even a small portion of the millions he makes go toward supporting services and infrastructure there. (Florida is now his primary residence). Hey, preacher man, have you forgotten Christ's words as recorded in Matthew 7:26-27 ? " Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27"The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell-- and great was its fall."

[Octafish]

11. Looks like a Fortress of Turpitude

Probably has a secret escape tunnel to the sea for when the tumbrils pull into the circular.

[DemoTex]

13. Ha! Right now the Clown Car is parked in the circular.

No mention of an elevator, though, like Mitt's La Jolla Swankienda.

[DeSwiss]

15. Splendid!

[Rex]

14. Charlatan, always has been one and he always will be one.

Fuckabee knows there is a sucker born every minute!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

16. Mormon Bishop Mitt Romney's beach house at La Jolla

the one with the car elevator that he plans to tear down to turn it into an 11,000 square foot palace. And it's not even his most expensive home.

[calimary]

24. Well, what it seems they REALLY worship is not God.

Unless it's the motto with the word "God" in it, that is. The "In God We Trust" that's printed, embossed, or engraved on the money.

[Tsiyu]

23. rofl

No matter which version he owns, looks like somebody didn't read his Bobble:

¶ Lay not vp for your selues treasures vpon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where theeues breake thorow, and steale.
- King James Version (1611) - View 1611 Bible Scan

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
- New American Standard Version (1995)

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon the earth, where moth and rust consume, and where thieves break through and steal:
- American Standard Version (1901)

Make no store of wealth for yourselves on earth, where it may be turned to dust by worms and weather, and where thieves may come in by force and take it away.
- Basic English Bible

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon the earth, where moth and rust spoils, and where thieves dig through and steal;
- Darby Bible

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
- Webster's Bible

Do not lay up stores of wealth for yourselves on earth, where the moth and wear-and-tear destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
- Weymouth Bible

Don't lay up treasures for yourselves on the earth, where moth and rust consume, and where thieves break through and steal;
- World English Bible

Nile ye tresoure to you tresouris in erthe, where ruste and mouyte destrieth, and where theues deluen out and stelen;
- Wycliffe Bible

`Treasure not up to yourselves treasures on the earth, where moth and rust disfigure, and where thieves break through and steal,
- Youngs Literal Bible


Why don't fat cats like Huckabee and Robertson ever rail against greed and avarice? Oh...yeah...because they are greedy and avaricious!

But the rest of us are the real sinners, right?

[calimary]

25. Theirs is a different kind of Bible, I think.

More like a "Buy-Bull" than any holy book I've ever learned about from the nuns in Catholic school. And yeah, they took vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience. But they, too, weren't completely immune to earthly goodies.

[Tsiyu]

28. Looks like you're spot on

There's some "Greedy Fuckers" translation the rest of us don't get to have a peek at.

It just amazes me how guys like Fuckabee can froth at the mouth over cursing and wymmins and teh gay, but those passages about avarice are completely glossed over. Never mentioned. Never sermonized about.

Like, does Fuckabee think the rest of us can't read what the Bobble says for ourselves?

I find guys like Fuckabee to be an absolute hoot, as they are The Walking Hypocrisy, and the poor wealthy souls have no idea how transparent and evil they appear.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

29. "Buy Bull" - Good One, LOL

[SammyWinstonJack]

44. Amen Send Money

[world wide wally]

35. I think that is the beauty of the Bible and religion to them...

You get to pick and choose which parts apply to any given issue

[Tsiyu]

36. Indeed

it's a riff off a bunch of other legends and lore and traditional story-telling to begin with.


I could take snippets out of parts of it - especially song of solomon and some of the psalms - and make it say the god of that work values orgies and getting drunk.

Was just at a very pagan friend's place, who tried to give me a book.

"Too much of that Christian crap in it, even though it's very well written. It just makes you nauseated after a while."

"I'm more pagan than you," I said. "I've had enough of that drivel for seventeen lifetimes."

"Good! Let's burn it together."

Just in fun, of course, but yeah.

[hatrack]

26. At last! The silver linings of global warming & sea level rise - revealed!

[LongTomH]

34. Sadly, Huckabee will probably be dead long before the oceans rise to inundate this monstrosity!!!!

But, if I were one of his kids, I'd try to find a sucker (er, buyer) quick!

[spanone]

42. he's a flim-flam man

[Liberal_in_LA]

43. looks like an apartment building

[riderinthestorm]

45. Has Huckabee made a vow of poverty?