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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:21 PM Feb 2015

Yo Kanye, I'm happy for you and I'm going to let you finish but I have to say

Beyoncé isn't the only talented entertainer but she has gained far more notoriety than many of the other talented women in the music world.

This is Maria Brink --



She sings for the band In This Moment. She is an absolute vocal powerhouse, writes her own music and plays the piano. She's also a single mother. Her music is soulful, even as it is soul-shattering. It tears you open and leaves you bare, raw, exposed. It's as disturbing as it is beautiful. It's meant to be jarring and push people to look deeper at themselves.

This is what she had to say about her 2014 single, "Whore" (yes, you read that right) --

“It's really just about taking the power back from the word...



Here's the video (stick with it to the end or don't watch at all, just sayin') --





Quite the vocal range, huh?

She'll probably never even be a contender for a Grammy and if she is it will more than likely be one of the niche categories. She'll never have the big stage sets and the massively choreographed dance numbers. Yeah, those take talent and hard work but they get the most support because they make the most money -- as you well know.

Maria will never get to sit with the cool kids. She'll probably see her entire career pigeonholed because her music isn't the right kind of music. Her ability to compose, write lyrics, perform, sing and convey a message will be ignored because she's not with the right groups of people.

Is that fair?
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Yo Kanye, I'm happy for you and I'm going to let you finish but I have to say (Original Post) Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 OP
Wow - she is impressive! NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #1
All the more reason why I think a "Separate But Equal Grammy's For Black and White" randys1 Feb 2015 #2
What is it about the OP angers you so much? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #3
Does that emoticon bother you? randys1 Feb 2015 #4
I presume it is meant to convey high degree of anger. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #5
Convey high degree of anger? randys1 Feb 2015 #6
"How about my idea of a 'Separate But Equal Grammy'" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #8
I am the ONE? randys1 Feb 2015 #13
I don't need Maria Brink to win a Grammy to prove anything. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #14
IT is almost as if you are butt hurt that Kanye and Beyonce and others have such randys1 Feb 2015 #16
That kinda makes the claim that they have been unfairly treated ring hollow. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #18
Ug. I feel like I just got screamed at by a tweaker for 5 minutes. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #7
And that's OK. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2015 #10
How dare you insult the "musical genius" Kanye West! His ego, which is wide as the universe, dissentient Feb 2015 #11
Really? Justin Bieber actually has more musical talent than most 3 people combined randys1 Feb 2015 #12
If it won't make money, it won't get mainstream radio time Lurks Often Feb 2015 #15
Thank you for that Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #17
Music Appreciation unbounded seveneyes Feb 2015 #19
Lots of talented folks never hit the big time Fumesucker Feb 2015 #20
Black artists know better than anyone that so many talented artists never, EVER get their due Number23 Feb 2015 #21
You can have talent and yet your work or product has limited appeal. TwilightGardener Feb 2015 #22

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
1. Wow - she is impressive!
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:31 PM
Feb 2015

I've never heard of her before. It goes to show how truly talented artists can be overlooked by the music company's media machines.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. All the more reason why I think a "Separate But Equal Grammy's For Black and White"
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:35 PM
Feb 2015

I mean that way she can get hers and she wont have to compete with Beyonce or Kanye


everybody is happy






































Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
5. I presume it is meant to convey high degree of anger.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:46 PM
Feb 2015

I'm curious as to why you would be so angry -- if you are.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
6. Convey high degree of anger?
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:50 PM
Feb 2015


Oh lord....

How about my idea of a "Separate But Equal Grammy"

This way your pals get theirs without competing with non whites?


We could have two , one for whites and one for everybody else?


Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. "How about my idea of a 'Separate But Equal Grammy'"
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:00 PM
Feb 2015

Seeing as you added the sarcasm tag I did not take it seriously.


This way your pals get theirs without competing with non whites?

We could have two , one for whites and one for everybody else?

It seems you are the one who is most opposed to open competition.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
13. I am the ONE?
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:11 PM
Feb 2015


YOU Are the one BEMOANING your gal here cant compete!

You dont have a clue what is going on in this thread, do you.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
14. I don't need Maria Brink to win a Grammy to prove anything.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:20 PM
Feb 2015

Noting a fact isn't the same as demanding a predetermined result.

Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Original post)

 

dissentient

(861 posts)
11. How dare you insult the "musical genius" Kanye West! His ego, which is wide as the universe,
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:05 PM
Feb 2015

will not stand for this!

Kanye West and Justin Bieber, two peas in a pod, both with about the same amount of non-talent.




randys1

(16,286 posts)
12. Really? Justin Bieber actually has more musical talent than most 3 people combined
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:10 PM
Feb 2015

he is an asshole and I dont listen to his music, but his talent is not questioned by anyone in the music business.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
15. If it won't make money, it won't get mainstream radio time
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:24 PM
Feb 2015

If you don't make the music industry money, you won't be a success in mainstream music, no matter how talented you may be.

The older I get, the more I hate MTV, which I liked when it first appeared. Unfortunately it changed the commercial music industry away from where talent usually determined success and more toward who looked good, danced good and could put together a slick, well produced video.

No fancy stage show, no fancy production, just a top notch singer with a really good orchestra performing live. Around 2:05 she hits the high note and really shows what a great voice she has. And yet 99% of the U.S. has never heard of her.


 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
19. Music Appreciation unbounded
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:47 PM
Feb 2015

The simple fact is it is complicated to isolate taste.

Speaking of complex ...

Number23

(24,544 posts)
21. Black artists know better than anyone that so many talented artists never, EVER get their due
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:55 PM
Feb 2015

I just find it interesting that people are screaming at Kanye at what he did to Beck and Taylor Swift and I heard nary a peep when that man had the nerve and stupidity to claim his struggle with the paparazzi was the same as the civil rights movement.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1929

And some of the language being used at him and by default Beyoncé over what he said to Beck is as revealing as it is revolting.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
22. You can have talent and yet your work or product has limited appeal.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:09 PM
Feb 2015

Beyonce has broad appeal. THIS gal...uh...limited. I don't like this. I am not a fan of Beyonce either, but I understand why some artists are able to attract a wide fan base.

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