BREAKING: The Jackie Robinson Little League Team has had its 2014 wins vacated

[Are_grits_groceries]

for using ineligible players. The U.S.title will go to the Las Vegas team.
Per ESPN TV-Mike & Mike show

[malaise]

1. As if other teams didn't violate the same rule

but then how dare these lil black kids from Chicago's south side win.

I won't even mention the over-aged players from foreign teams

[Are_grits_groceries]

2. True.

If you are going to game the system, you better game it well. It was too obvious and easy to prove. As far as foreign teams go, trying to prove that the players are older without help from those countries, good luck. Not gonna happen.

[marym625]

7. This is just not cool

And I hate to believe it, but I am positive that it's all about "how dare black kids represent the best of the little league"

Are they investigating the LA school like they did here?

This just sucks.

[H. Cromwell]

33. I beg to differ...

They cheated, they got caught. White, Black, Green or Yellow; If you are caught cheating you get punished. <key word caught.
As far as the other posts about it hurting the children...they are old enough to know the rules and They Probably Knew it was cheating so I have little pity on their issues after getting caught.

[marym625]

34. I don't think that the adults should go unpunished

We're talking 12 and 13 year old kids. Bully for you.

[pintobean]

35. The same age as the cheated boys.

[11 Bravo]

32. Unless you have evidence implicating other teams ...

your post is post is just foolish. This is in no way the fault of the Jackie Robinson LL players, the adults bear full responsibility. But baseless accusations leveled against other players and adult volunteers serve no purpose.

[kiva]

38. Kids who were cheated out of the title.

Sorry they aren't the approved color.

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[ProfessorGAC]

3. Did They Say Where The Other Kids Came From?

Yesterday i heard NW Indiana. Since, 20% of NW Indiana is the Chicago suburbs, i thought nothing of it.

[Are_grits_groceries]

5. No

Apparently the adults used a falsified district map to recruit players. They then tried to get the other districts to retroactively validate it. They knew they were wrong.

[WolverineDG]

19. Those adults should be banned for life

You don't jack kids around like that just because YOU want to win.

I feel sorry for the kids who were used like this.

[mythology]

39. What about the kids on the other teams?

They got jerked around because this team couldn't play by the rules.

The kids from the team that lost the title can learn from this.

[marym625]

4. NO!

Damn it. Those poor kids. This sucks. It really sucks.

If the school did something wrong, that's not the kids' fault.

[Are_grits_groceries]

6. It's the coaches and the officials

who run that district. Blame them.

[marym625]

9. I do.

The kids shouldn't suffer for this. Just terrible.

[DrDan]

13. and the kids that lost to those that have a hard time following rules?

they also should not suffer

I support vacating the wins

[marym625]

15. I hate this after the fact investigation

If they make it to playoffs, do it then. Don't take titles away. I blame the league. Sorry

[DrDan]

23. placing blame is one thing . . . . correcting a wrong is something else

there is no perfect resolution - someone will unfairly suffer

but things need to be made as "right" as possible - so some lessons are learned

[Nye Bevan]

36. So if you can get away with the coverup for long enough, there are no consequences? (nt)

[SidDithers]

10. +1...

Adults fucked up here, trying to game the system.

And the kids are the ones who are going to pay for it.

It's a really shitty situation for those players.

Sid

[marym625]

16. makes me want to cry

These kids are going to have this follow them the rest of their lives. For something that the adults did

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

43. The kids may not have won without the ineligible players

There's a reason the coaches reached out beyond the legal boundaries.

The whole thing is sad. My dad coached Little League for years, and we all loved it.

[cherokeeprogressive]

30. This has nothing to do with a school, rather Little League district boundaries. n/t

[marym625]

31. whatever boundaries

It sucks.

[SidDithers]

8. How hard is it to not cheat?...

Did they really think that using players from outside the district wouldn't eventually become known?

Coaches, League Executives, even parents, know who the top players are in neighbouring districts. Bringing in players from outside the district isn't something that can be easily hidden.

Sid

[GummyBearz]

11. Little league...

It did me a ton of good when I was playing as a youngster, and I can imagine it does many of these kids the same type of good. Its just too damn bad parents have to freakin ruin it these days.

This is a time when kids are really starting to develop into the grown adults they will eventually become, and we have parents fighting in the stands, coaches using cheap tricks/tactics to win, and now coaches and parents collaborating to cheat... sigh.

Great example for your kids, jackasses.

[DrDan]

12. use ineligible players, get caught - games should be forfeited

other teams do it? no excuse
less privileged - no excuse

no excuse for consciously cheating

[marym625]

14. WGN just said "could cost them. .

Their national title"

Is this a done deal?

Never mind. They just announced it.

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. The adults cheat, the kids play their hearts out

and this is what you get.

Nice going, so-called "grown ups" and "leaders".

It makes me sick to my stomach.

[nitpicker]

18. Link to the ESPN story

http://espn.go.com/chicago/story/_/id/12308988/little-league-strips-chicago-team-us-championship-suspends-coach

[Iggo]

20. Hey, NFL. Are you watching? This is how it's done.

[GreatGazoo]

21. Bush would have invited them to the WH and Rudy would give them the key to the City

as they did with 15YO Danny Almonte.

''I want to ask for a pardon, especially from President Bush and the American people, on behalf of his legal wife,'' said Marisol María Inoa Sanchéz de Almonte, Felipe Almonte's second wife. ''Because he's being pursued by the Dominican government, he can't speak for himself.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/06/sports/baseball-almonte-faces-arrest-his-wife-seeks-mercy.html

What do cheating LLB coaches buy their pitchers for the their 14th birthday?

A: A lip wax and a fake ID.

[cigsandcoffee]

41. They actually did go to the White House. n/t

[bigwillq]

22. Adults/coaches/parents often ruin youth sports

While it sucks for the young players, I support the decision. If rules were broken, there must be consequences.

[lame54]

24. They obviously didn't honor the name of their team

[marym625]

25. They haven't told the kids

The kids and parents are finding out from the news.

That really sucks!

[a kennedy]

26. Ah shoot, was hoping they did win on the up and up......shoot.

[yallerdawg]

27. There is nothing Americans won't cheat at!

When my Little League team made it to the city-wide playoff, we suited up the one younger assistant coach -- the other team looked like it had grown men on it (like our ringer). That was 50 years ago!

Do you all not pay attention to the bible of the American way of life?

Remember - always, "Leave the gun, take the cannoli." That says it all.

[Blue_Tires]

42. Guess you have to throw the Filipinos in there too, then...

I remember 1992 very well -- The minute I saw that bunch on TV, I'd predicted their disqualification sooner or later...Half their starting lineup had pube 'staches

[SidDithers]

28. Kick...nt

Sid

[Johonny]

29. Does vacating wins ever work. Does anyone give a crap Pete Caroll has his wins taken away?

I saw who won, now a year later I don't care.

[mythology]

40. Ask Lance Armstrong about that

Not just about how his cheating lost his titles and public respect, but it also it devastated the LiveStrong fundraising once Lance finally admitted he's a cheating scumbag.

Also if it didn't matter, why did Penn State lobby so hard to have the wins of Joe Paterno reinstated? Apparently those wins mattered more to them than accepting that they had a culture that valued wins over enabling the sexual abuse of kids.

Cheaters should be punished and punished severely to make sure the potential punishment is enough to serve as a deterrent since concepts like honor and self-respect obviously aren't enough for some people.

[Nye Bevan]

37. Perhaps they should be renamed the Alex Rodriguez Little League Team? (nt)