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Ed O'Keefe ?@edatpost 6m6 minutes ago@JebBush seeks to distinguish foreign policy views from his dad & brother. But his slate of advisers looks familiar: http://wapo.st/1CHj3lo
Bush is scheduled to speak at midday Wednesday before nearly 800 people at an event hosted by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, a nonpartisan think tank that is home to several veterans of previous presidential administrations...
"I recognize that as a result, my views will often be held up in comparison to theirs sometimes in contrast to theirs," he will (say), according to prepared remarks provided by his aides in advance. "I love my father and my brother. I admire their service to the nation and the difficult decisions they had to make. But I am my own man and my views are shaped by my own thinking and own experiences. Each president learns from those who came before their principles their adjustments. One thing we know is this: Every president inherits a changing world and changing circumstances."
But as he prepares to launch a presidential campaign, Bush will be relying on at least 21 veteran foreign policy and diplomatic experts, including former secretaries of homeland security and state, former CIA directors and national security advisers.
The list includes two former secretaries of homeland security, Tom Ridge and Michael Chertoff, who worked for George W. Bush; two former secretaries of state, James Baker and George Schultz, who served under George H. W. Bush and Ronald Reagan; two former CIA directors, Porter Goss and Michael Hayden, who also served during the second Bush presidency; and former attorney general Michael Mukasey.
Others on the list include two former World Bank presidents, Robert Zoellick and Paul Wolfowitz. There's also John Negroponte, a former United Nations ambassador and the first director of national intelligence; Stephen Hadley, who was George W. Bush's national security adviser; and Meghan O'Sullivan, who worked with Hadley and Bush on the second Iraq war...
read: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/02/18/jeb-bush-considers-himself-lucky-to-have-family-that-shaped-americas-foreign-policy-from-the-oval-office/
Serpentine202 ?@Serpentine202 52m52 minutes ago
The Same People Who Lied To You About #Iraq Are Now In Charge Of #JebBushs Foreign Policy http://thkpr.gs/3624114 #politics #p2 #tcot #ctl
malaise
(269,004 posts)for Vice President - Americans cannot be this stupid
SamKnause
(13,106 posts)They are not stupid.
They are EVIL power hungry psychopaths.
They are out to control the world by any means necessary.
Uneducated, uniformed, and misinformed Americans support the Bush dynasty.
Fox 'News' and the main stream media should be tarred, feathered, and deported.
staggerleem
(469 posts)Certainly not enough of them to win a national election. So, your globalists must RELY on the "Uneducated, uniformed, and misinformed Americans" to elect the folks that the Globalists need at the top, which implies that the masses have voted, and will (if the globalists get their way) continue to vote AGAINST their own best interests.
In MY book, that makes them STUPID!
Sam, if you lie to me about things I need to know to cast a vote in my own best interests, shame on you.
But if I BUY your lies, hook, line and sinker, when the truth is easily available to anyone with a browser and an internet connection, then the shame is on ME - in spades!
tanyev
(42,559 posts)staggerleem
(469 posts)... why Cheney doesn't show up on the chart. Likewise Rumsfeld - weren't they both Reagan Administration alumni?
I guess their positions were more about domestic issues than foreign policy.
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)Wasn't there some dumbass who once said...
Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, we won't get fooled again.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)I wouldn't let them pump my gas.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I'm hoping someone like Scott Walker gets the GOP nomination because he can be more easily defeated.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...George Bush said the most outrageous things before the Supremes (and Jeb) stopped the vote counting.
One of Jeb's liabilities will be the availability of so many previous Bush follies (including his own) to define him before the election. An relatively unknown candidate (to the public at large) has the ability to define themselves. Jeb is already saddled by his family legacy. Now it looks as if he's doubling down on that past which includes leading characters from one of the most unpopular wars in our nation's history next to the end of Vietnam.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts)...is she takes away some of the 'legacy' argument with her own family baggage.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I still believe we beat him, but not without some unsure moments, and not without some degree of difficulty.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)thing that weighs in her favor is that her husband led a successful economy
and war (if there can be such a thing)
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...the Clinton 'doctrine' (or the Obama FP) is hands-down superior to the Bush-era militarism.
Eric Boehlert ?@EricBoehlert
oh the irony. W. Bush's brother to lecture Obama abt restoring "trust" and "leadership" around the world; http://bit.ly/1DqcXsr #iraqwar
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)just saying "They're the same people."
It's not just that they're the same people; it's that they're the same BAD people.
Diremoon
(86 posts)Every republican.
staggerleem
(469 posts)... are where THEY LIVE. As liberals and progressives, we're supposed to be better than that, aren't we?
LOVE your adversary, Dire - show him the light and help him grow and blossom. Show them how much better it is to live in HOPE than in FEAR.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)She cracks three traditionally Democratic demographics. Anyone care to guess what they are?
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)California
Academics
Non-traditional family
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Minority
Female
and the massively gap-toothed? (I mean, David Letterman is the king of that demographic )
Roland99
(53,342 posts)RobinA
(9,893 posts)I cannot believe this Jeb Bush BS. How did these people get into this position? What I mean is, why the Bushs? To me they seem fairly undistinguished. Daddy Bush was overshadowed by Reagan and than a not terrible President. Junior was a disaster. They have money. So do plenty of other people. They have government experience. So do plenty of other people. They don't seem that smart. Not dumb (well, with one exception), but not standout smart. Why are we faced with the possibility of having three presidents from this family? In fairly short succession. There's a perfect storm here somewhere that I don't get.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)From Grandpa Prescott funding the Nazi war machine, to Poppy's long, distinguished career in the CIA, to Dubya's overwhelming support for the PNAC Gallery--the Bushes have always been counted on to get shit done for the world's rulers, to the woe of us all. Anyone else might have a moral hiccup every now and then, but not those ratfaced motherfuckers. They are true believers.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Paladin
(28,261 posts)Give THAT some thought, you whiney-assed Hillary bashers. Give THAT some thought, you "Lesser Of Two Evils" moaners.
Then get your heads in the game......
Autumn
(45,089 posts)I would be hard pressed to decide which is worse, Spitlick or Henry.
Paladin
(28,261 posts)Those two are enough for me to write a check to Hillary.
Chiyo-chichi
(3,580 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)its mostly the same sorry ass people who got us in this fucking mess to begin with and will put us right back in it if they get the reigns of power again
I sure hope American Voters wake the hell up
Not holding my breath though as that would be suicidal
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,584 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts)C Moon
(12,213 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Fuck the Bush Klan.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)Dumbya: Okay Gang, where did these fellas come from?
Gang: Almost entirely from Saudi Arabia, sir.
Dumbya: Well alrighty then. Let's attack Saddam and take all his oil.
Gang: Excellent decision Mister President.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)They know firsthand how to profit from war, when other people's kids do the fighting. Wolfie spits on his comb before combing his hair. Chertoff made a fortune on those body scanners at airports. The rest of them have been wrong more than correct, so what the hey, let taxpayers pay them huge salaries to screw up once again.
Bette R. Daize
(43 posts)....never saw that one coming. Here's my surprised face
FSogol
(45,485 posts)Look out America!
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)I wonder where Darth Cheney is?
And Johnny Asscroft? Oh well, maybe they didn't need a crooner, then again he probably made too many ears bleed for his rendition of "Let the Eagles Soar." On the other hand maybe he wanted sore eagles, who knows?
The third option that his song was a secret message whose title was "Oh Sweet Evil."
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)No thanks!
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)advisors was bad. Nothing like this.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)And they carry enough baggage to sink any ship. All it lacks is Condi Rice.
catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)That list of names should disqualify Jeb from running period. Shows his complete and utter lack of good judgement or common sense.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)He, along with c***oleezza Rice ignored multiple warnings from Richard Clarke re: the growing intelligence of impending attacks by bin Laden.
He was instrumental in the infamous yellowcake claims making it into Bush's speeches justifying invading Iraq.
He was integral in working w/Michael Ledeen (of Iran-Contra "fame" and Doug Feith ("the stupidest motherfucker in the world" in using the claims of fraudmeister (and Iran-Contra figurehead) Manucher Ghorbanifar in justifying attacks in Afghanistan and in Iraq.
He's still pal'ing around with c***oleezza Rice in the RiceHadleyGates LLC
IOW, he's a fucking lying fuck who isn't worth a fuck!
bigtree
(85,996 posts)bigtree Wed Nov-16-05
Hadley isn't just a fall guy, he was hawking invasion before 2000 election
Rice's deputy sidekick, Stephen Hadley, apparently Woodward's source for Wilson's wife's name and her role in Wilson's trip to Niger, has been advocating policies for many years which have, to no one's surprise, found their way into the ideological bulldozer which forms the doctrine of the Bush league's foreign policy.
Hadley worked closely with the Bush-Cheney campaign as a foreign policy advisor specializing in European and Russian affairs. He was a partner in Shea & Gardner, the Washington law firm representing Lockheed Martin. He was a member of the Vulcans, an eight-person foreign policy team formed during the Bush campaign that included Condoleezza Rice and Richard Perle.
Hadley is, of course, the fluky bungler who took the blame for the insertion of the phony Iraq/Niger uranium charges in the president's State of the Union address, claiming that he forgot' to relay CIA objections.
In the fall of 2002 the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (Chairman of the Board, Bruce Jackson, former Vice President for Strategy and Planning at Lockheed Martin), was established in the Washington offices of the right-wing American Enterprise Institute. The CLI engaged in educational and advocacy efforts to mobilize U.S. and international support for policies aimed at ending the regime of Saddam Hussein.
This advocacy came at the same time that Condoleezza Rice and Stephen Hadley were engaged in a series of briefings with foreign policy groups, Iraq specialists and other opinion makers that was termed as a "new phase," by a White House spokesman, who described the goal as building fresh public support for Bush administration policy vs. Iraq.
Members of the CLI met in November of 2002 with President Bush's national security adviser, Condi Rice, in an effort to mount "education and advocacy efforts to mobilize U.S. and international support freeing the Iraqi people from tyranny."
Members of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq included, John McCain, Newt Gingrich, William Kristol, General Barry McCaffrey, and former CIA director James Woolsey. (Woolsey recently proposed the reinstatement of a constitutional monarchy in Iraq, in which a king would appoint the prime minister.)
George Shultz, Amb. Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security John Bolton, and Elliot Abrams were also involved with the group. Abrams and Bolton are founding members of the CLI.
(Elliot Abrams, a senior Bush official on the National Security Council, was formally head of President Reagan's efforts in the Middle East. Abrams, was convicted for President Reagan's crimes in the Iran-Contra scandal and then pardoned by Bush I. As assistant secretary of state for Inter-American affairs under President Reagan, Abrams was responsible for the controversial policies of that administration in Nicaragua and El Salvador during the 1980s, and played a key role in the U.S. relationship with Manuel Noriega. In 2000, Abrams was made the improbable president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center. In 2001 he was hired by Condolezza Rice for a position on the NSC overseeing Arab/ Israeli negotiations.)
Among the other participants in the CLI were: president and executive director, Randy Scheunemann (Scheunemann served until recently as a consultant on Iraq to Donald Rumsfeld), Treasurer Julie Finley, Gary Schmitt (director of the conservative foundation, Project for the New American Century) and Richard Perle, (chairman of Rumsfeld's Defense Policy Board), who is also closely associated PNAC.
In Dec. 2002 members of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq met with National Security Council officials to discuss the administrations analysis of Iraq's declaration that it possessed no weapons of mass destruction. After the conference, committee chairman Bruce Jackson stated that, "The administration has been forced to the unavoidable conclusion. The regime of Saddam Hussein has blatantly disregarded UN Security Council Resolution 1441 which calls for an "accurate, full and complete" account of its programs to develop weapons of mass destruction," he said. "The Iraqi Declaration is clearly non-compliant."
"Peaceful disarmament is not possible without the full cooperation of the Iraqi regime," said Jackson. This was echoed by Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, who testified before a Senate committee in Jan. 2003 that "without active cooperation, the peaceful disarmament of Iraq is not going to be possible."
The CLI lobbied for the installation of the so-called Iraqi National Congress to replace the Hussein dictatorship.This group was the creation of the U.S. Congress which, following testimony from Ahmed Chalabi, and defense policy executive, Zalmay Khalilzad, now U.S. envoy to Iraq, passed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, and sanctioned the new U.S. policy of regime change. Almost $100 million in taxpayer funds was provided to the group.
Hadley's ties to the disbanded Committee for the Liberation of Iraq were cemented at the start of the enterprise by his relationship with CLI chairman, Bruce Jackson. Former Lockheed president, Jackson and former Lockheed counsel, Hadley have worked closely together on the Committee to Expand NATO. Jackson was president of this entity, based in the Washington offices of the right-wing American Enterprise Institute; Hadley was its secretary.
Hadley, 53, served as assistant secretary of defense for international security policy from 1989 to 1993 and was responsible for defense policy on NATO and Western Europe, nuclear weapons and ballistic missile defense, and arms control. He was active in the negotiations that resulted in the START I and START II treaties.
Hadley was also a member of the National Security Council staff during the earlier Bush administration.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)If the Dems had engaged in even one one-hundredth the corruption and crimes committed by these fucking fucks there would have been decades of House and Senate hearings.
spanone
(135,836 posts)i salute them by way of Johnny Cash
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silvershadow
(10,336 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts)...enriched by the selling of the influence of their positions in government - nursing their broken ambitions in exile, instinctively constructing sympathetic webs of wealth to obstruct the remedies of the reformers and hatch the next generation of world capitalists who will inherit the patronage of the next conservative presidency
jimlup
(7,968 posts)People really didn't grasp this one the first time did they. Holy shit storm Batman!
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Will it ever end?
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)interested in resurrecting it. Scary shit.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)calimary
(81,267 posts)And now they're hungry to prove it. If they get back in, watch for America to war up.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)God help us all.
We are in for a rough ride.
We have to stand up and fight to not let this happen. If it does, Game Over, Period.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Ramses
(721 posts)Neocon through and through. Bush doesnt have a chance in hell of coming close to the Presidency. The entire Bush family is a criminal syndicate in and of itself
C Moon
(12,213 posts)and the GOP is threatening to cut funding for the Department of Homeland Security.
Exhibit A
(318 posts)I feel a little sick imagining another Bush in the White House.
3catwoman3
(23,993 posts)...bull puckey, isn't it?
I feel a whole lot more than a little sick at the prospect. Bone chilling horror might be a fair description.
The only bushes I want anywhere near the White House are the ones in the Rose Garden.
Exhibit A
(318 posts)Yes, "bone-chilling horror" is a better way to put it.
pansypoo53219
(20,977 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Yep, you're not like your other family members and can think on your own. We get that. (Well not really). But to seek advice from people that put this country in the mess it's in, is total stupidity.
NEXT!!!!!
1Greensix
(111 posts)Republicans do not have original ideas, so they always turn to what Didn't work in the past, and then try it again. This Bushit just uses Daddy's and Jr's, but he would be better off hiring sixth graders that can find Libya and Syria on a map than those 21 losers.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Same shit, different Bush. I wonder which country is on their radar this time?
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