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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsold tom tomorrow .For the millionth time... this is how the news work
calikid
(584 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)how tom tomorrow treated bill clinton
and how correct he was on his treatment of him
or hillary
cuncator
(28 posts)Something like this Wayback Machine?:
https://web.archive.org/web/19961220025636/http://www.well.com/user/tomorrow/
stone space
(6,498 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Yup.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)When I joined the marines in 1961 we were told that it was 1) Fidel 2) Kruschev 3) Mao.
Over the years there have been many more, from Lumumba to Saddam. And, every time we were told that we must DO SOMETHING usually involving violence.
How's that worked out so far?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Beartracks
(12,814 posts)progressoid
(49,991 posts)Conan filmed his show there!
MattSh
(3,714 posts)We're going to have to break that peace.
Where's the profit in peace?
MisterP
(23,730 posts)undermine democracy. We got there just in time"
and they showed all the arms and documents, remember?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)I was in the Air Wing and they had flown our planes out to be junked. We were about to set off on our overseas tour in Japan. So, we had no planes and served no purpose. The rest of the base (MCAS El Toro) emptied, all the squadrons scattered. So, we were left to...wait. To make sure that none of us decided not to chance being toasted and take off, they locked us in our barracks and marched us to chow.
We played a lot of poker and managed to smuggle in beer. We were all too young, too ignorant, and too impressed with our own invulnerability to be scared...very much.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)They're all FoxNews nowadays.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)calimary
(81,298 posts)I keep remembering that old bullshit - "well, let's give it another six months, and then we'll see."
And another six months.
And another six months.
And another six months...
And...
old guy
(3,283 posts)Weren't they called "Friedmans" because they were the favorite of Tom Friedman of the NYT?
calimary
(81,298 posts)charles d
(99 posts)calimary
(81,298 posts)Glad you're here! Yeah. "Works." It really hurts me, personally. I used to work in the news biz. The way it's deteriorated over the years has been really depressing.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)for cutting to the chase. More and more of the Hoi Polloi recognize that the uber wealthy psychopaths will continue to use our media, our politics, AND our global economy to secure their hegemony, regardless of who gets killed in their dirty little unnecessary essential wars.
Karl Marx was right: capitalism has about run its course. Why do you think the capitalist psychos have worked so hard to vilify communism and socialism? Can't have the Hoi Polloi benefiting from they own hard labor, now, can we?
The revolution is imminent, because we cannot keep supporting a system that concentrates virtually all the planet's resources into the hands of less than five hundred people. I think, perhaps, I'll live to see this radical paradigm shift.
erronis
(15,286 posts)And how would we know that selected messages weren't being dropped?
China's shown us some neat techniques on how to build effective firewalls and "retrain" their recalcitrant populations.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)And I hope that our younglings are not going to shoulder their debt burden as willingly as our generation.
erronis
(15,286 posts)Just because the under-water mortgages weren't worth keeping; because the student debt load (100K+) would never make sense to repay given the job market BAs (or MBAs or JDs). After a while of struggling, they could care less about their credit scores - they know that BofA would never lend to them without another huge ripoff.
It's amazing that the landed gentry of this country, and I assume in other "first-world" countries haven't had the intelligence to know that they are poisoning the well. They should be doing what they can to foster people that want their products/services and can afford them. Instead they are inadvertently building an army of young people who will do what then can to undermine these "gentry".
chervilant
(8,267 posts)Although not a youngling, I owe money for an emergency surgery that I can NEVER hope to pay. I am currently unemployed because I had the audacity to address my ex-boss' racism. I am unlikely to get another job, because I'm 59 years old and "over-qualified."
I hope our younglings succeed in toppling the corporate megalomaniacs. And, I hope they do it in time to reverse climate change as much as possible.
mrdmk
(2,943 posts)K & R
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Even when they are CAUGHT lying, we are told they wouldn't lie!
I hope Tom Tomorrow updates that cartoon. All he has to do is change a few things.
rwsanders
(2,605 posts)That is one of the reasons he just couldn't do it anymore. Same thing again, and again, and again...
Octafish
(55,745 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)Oh so long ago, I argued with an acquaintance about voting for Poppy Bush. I told her that I would NEVER vote for someone who'd been Director of the CIA. She vehemently denied that he'd been the director! After she did some research (this was before the inner tubes), she came back and apologized for not knowing Poppy's background. She didn't vote for him, either.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)samsingh
(17,599 posts)and I especially hate when the media starts asking 'is the media at fault, should we do more."
never to do anything better.
the media is told what to report by their corporate masters - that's all. I think they know what they are writing are lies, but the few that resist are destroyed by the bosses.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Gothmog
(145,291 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)This toon is perfect. It tells the truth more completely than the last 14 years of the MSM.
alterfurz
(2,474 posts)...only more so.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)but the circus rolls ever on.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Just think, if you have enough capital you can invest in a company that makes the death machines AND a company that prints the news about the people that use the death machines! Patriotic death machines, not like the other guys...which are all bad obviously.
I doubt any robber baron of any age, could have ever DREAMED of such a marvelous scam. Get the poor to go off and die, the media says yes that is okay 'go ahead shoo'. War is fed a constant diet of live bodies, warmongers are fed a constant diet of dollars and everyone is happy except the 99%.
Yep, everybody!
NuttyFluffers
(6,811 posts)party jingoism filtering into whose "lies" we listen to. as if our NYT/TIME/Fox/CNN swill is better "lies."
shoot the one who shoots the messenger.