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My favorite cartoon from the time before the war. (Original Post) kpete Feb 2015 OP
Invent one - some will go along with anything the neocons cook up. Again and again. leveymg Feb 2015 #1
randy scheunemann. That's the tip-off, if jebbie becomes the GOP nominee. calimary Feb 2015 #6
Gotta love the foresight of this from PNAC: "Second Statement on Post-War Iraq", dated 3/28/03 leveymg Feb 2015 #7
And one of them, the infamous paul wolfowitz, is on jebbie's foreign policy team. calimary Feb 2015 #16
Was it Wolfie or Mike Ledeen who suggested the Iraqis would greet American troops with flowers? leveymg Feb 2015 #18
Might have, but wolfie was the one who specifically said the Iraq War wasn't going to cost calimary Feb 2015 #19
Well, there is the one they gave, and then there is the real one n2doc Feb 2015 #2
I was going to say I cannot remembe a time before war. niyad Feb 2015 #3
there was never "a time before war" mountain grammy Feb 2015 #32
Is that the one Hillary signed? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #4
Mine was this frazzled Feb 2015 #5
Good one! n/t zentrum Feb 2015 #28
I heard the original acronym for the Iraq war was benld74 Feb 2015 #8
You heard right Jack Rabbit Feb 2015 #9
Reminds me of how Rush Limbaugh Doc Holliday Feb 2015 #10
ROFL malaise Feb 2015 #14
:) fadedrose Feb 2015 #29
Perfect. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2015 #30
Wow, that is brilliant. Never saw that one before. dissentient Feb 2015 #11
I saved and scanned this one.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #12
They need to take the Profit out of war. thesquanderer Feb 2015 #13
Do you see any war on your borders malaise Feb 2015 #15
While I totally agree with you we all know it ain't going to happen. erronis Feb 2015 #34
Great cartoon Gothmog Feb 2015 #17
And it's happening again .... sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #20
The reason was scary Muslims then and so it has to be scary Muslims again? Get a new act. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #21
Jeez, Fred--Whassa madder witcha? Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #23
What you are saying is, it is all about the oil? This time it is about the evil the lust unleashed. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #24
It's still about the oil. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #25
Clay Bennett? Ruby the Liberal Feb 2015 #22
What's Missing jaxind Feb 2015 #26
Add to... zentrum Feb 2015 #27
Too bad the media didn't question that one. K&R! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #31
K & R for truth. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #33

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. Invent one - some will go along with anything the neocons cook up. Again and again.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 12:12 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Worked before, and will work again in Libya, again, Syria, and Iraq, again. Real men go to Iran . . . and Russia.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
6. randy scheunemann. That's the tip-off, if jebbie becomes the GOP nominee.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:20 PM
Feb 2015

Remember the PNAC signatories.

http://www.publiceye.org/pnac_chart/pnac.html

If ANY of these beasts are attached at the "foreign policy advisor" level of his campaign, GUARANTEED they're going to be back in power, infesting the Pentagon, the State Department, and the National Security Advisor's office - PLUS the UN Ambassador. Watch it be somebody like john bolton again. (He, TOO, is a PNAC signatory.)

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
7. Gotta love the foresight of this from PNAC: "Second Statement on Post-War Iraq", dated 3/28/03
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:35 PM
Feb 2015

Seems to have been signed by a lot of them.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
18. Was it Wolfie or Mike Ledeen who suggested the Iraqis would greet American troops with flowers?
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 05:18 PM
Feb 2015

I remember Ledeen is the author of “the Ledeen Doctrine.” Ex-Pentagon official Michael Ledeen is famously quoted by Jeff Goldberg as saying: “Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show we mean business.” (When the French ambassador in London, at a dinner party, asked why we should risk World War III over some “shitty little country”—meaning Israel—Goldberg’s magazine was not amused.) Maybe it was some other wannabe world changer.

Excellent article on the tribulations of the neocons, here: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/whose-war/

calimary

(81,304 posts)
19. Might have, but wolfie was the one who specifically said the Iraq War wasn't going to cost
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 07:17 PM
Feb 2015

us taxpayers one dime - because all that Iraqi oil was gonna pay for it! WOW!!! What a deal! Let's get TWO!



And michael ledeen can burn in Hell for all I care. His room is already reserved I think, based on that piece-of-shit statement of his: "every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show we mean business"???????????????? Oh My FREAKIN' GOD...

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
5. Mine was this
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 01:17 PM
Feb 2015

The very first Get Your War On. (I actually bought a signed and numbered print of it. Yay me. It's framed in my study.)



Doc Holliday

(719 posts)
10. Reminds me of how Rush Limbaugh
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 02:23 PM
Feb 2015

had to backpedal when naming his so-called "Institute."

Originally, it was to be called the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Republican Studies.

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
13. They need to take the Profit out of war.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:12 PM
Feb 2015

No company should be allowed to make money out of war. All "defense" work should be non-profit. That's the only defense WE have against the military industrial complex. Allowing private companies and their shareholders to make gobs of money out of war is a huge, fundamental flaw in our system. Personal enrichment of powerful people should never be allowed to become a motive for military operations, and as long as the profit potential is there, it will be.

malaise

(269,035 posts)
15. Do you see any war on your borders
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 03:19 PM
Feb 2015

with all those drones and men collecting pay for creating fear?
Look men intend to make money by creating fear.

erronis

(15,290 posts)
34. While I totally agree with you we all know it ain't going to happen.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:07 PM
Feb 2015

Maybe we could offer the profiteers a piece of the "prosperity pie" that happens after we solve all of the world's problems.

You know, like the new Obamacare rules that would require hospitals and physicians to actually make their patients well before getting paid? Return visits to ER (or Iraq, Middle East, etc.) would be a negative reimbursement for expenses.

Or maybe we need to make sure that every neocon has some real skin in the game. Get in front of the troops, Wolfie, Chinney. Put your children and grandchildren in battle gear and put them on the front line, not in some DC bunker.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
24. What you are saying is, it is all about the oil? This time it is about the evil the lust unleashed.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:59 PM
Feb 2015

The oil in Iraq is flowing fine.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
25. It's still about the oil.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:11 PM
Feb 2015

We're doing the Saudis' bidding on this one. They're pretty nervous about an ISIS infection at home, for one thing.

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
26. What's Missing
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:52 PM
Feb 2015

You can add "An Exit Strategy" and "An Understanding of the Region" to the list of unchecked items!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
27. Add to...
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:25 AM
Feb 2015

…the checklist "Poor Kids" to be soldiers. The ones who can't get jobs and can't afford to go to college.

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