The scariest chart you will see this week. Maybe this decade, if things go sideways ...

[kpete]

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-scariest-chart-you-will-see-this.html
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/jebbies-little-secret.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[2naSalit]

1. Yeah...

That, right there, looks like the lead balloon of the century.

[hifiguy]

2. Jayzus, that is enough to scare the hair off a gorilla.

[Gothmog]

3. Neocons like Wolfowitz do not belong in government

[Fred Sanders]

4. The John Bircher candidate.

[SheilaT]

5. There's a similar problem on the Democratic side,

and it will be very noticeable if Hillary is elected in 2016. Her cabinet and her advisers will all go back to Bill Clinton's era. No new ideas no new thinking.

[F4lconF16]

8. Yeah, woo_me_with_science has a good link for that.

I don't remember where I have it though, sorry.

[7962]

9. I wondered the same thing. nt

[nomorenomore08]

12. So faced with a choice between Jeb and HRC, WTF are we supposed to do?

I'll vote for Clinton if I have no other choice, but I have no illusions that that will cure what ails us, fundamentally.

[SheilaT]

13. Exactly.

While I'm not about to argue there's no difference between the two parties, this is exactly why I am so opposed to Hillary as a candidate. We get nothing new, no one new, not a single new idea. All we get is the same old corporatist and war bullshit, but it's supposed to be okay because it's a Democrat doing these things.

[nomorenomore08]

15. That's why I'm still crossing my fingers for another option... Warren, Sanders, whoever it is... nt

[SheilaT]

22. Same here.

I am genuinely bothered by the knee-jerk "It's Hillary's turn for sure now" sentiment that I see everywhere. It's sort of understandable outside of DU (I'm thinking of a recent conversation with my sister and her daughter) but within DU I would have expected a more nuanced understanding of this whole thing.

One small problem, not really connected to any aspect of the Hillary thing, is that a lot of good people here simply don't understand the actual realities of partisan politics. Back ten or so years ago there was a pipe dream that John McCain would become a Democrat and maybe become a VP candidate. For one thing, that idea showed a profound lack of understanding of how very conservative he actually was, and for another it showed a profound lack of understanding of how party politics works.

A candidate really must work within the system. The exact system varies from state to state, but in the end you have to connect to the party. For the Republicans these days, it's mostly connecting with the Tea Party and the most conservative/reactionary aspect of the Republican Party. For Democrats, all too often it means connecting with the status quo. Especially at a national level.

I ran for office, for the Kansas State House in 2004. I lost, but I learned a great deal from that experience.

In my local (Santa Fe New Mexican) newspaper today there was a small notice posted by the Democratic Party about upcoming Ward meetings to elect Ward Officers and County Central Committee Members. I intend to attend, and I will try to be elected to one of those positions. I have no idea how many people will show up, or what my competition will be, but I'll give it a try. I was quite active in local Democratic Party politics when I lived in Kansas, and it's about time I got back into it.

[Thor_MN]

28. If it comes to choosing between the 90's and the 00's?

That would take about a millisecond.

[nomorenomore08]

44. Very true. But I'm not sure things are that simple, in 2015.

Today's world is not the same world in which the first Clinton was elected.

[calimary]

33. Well, it'll keep paul wolfowitz out of the Defense Department, that's for sure.

Hillary won't pick him. If we do NOTHING else than keep paul wolfowitz from getting back into power on some CON's coattails, that will be a victory of PROFOUND consequences. We need to keep guys like him, but him in particular, locked out of power until he breathes his last.

[99th_Monkey]

6. How did KKKissinger get left off Jeb's roster? .. and where's The Dick? nt

[ALBliberal]

30. And Condoleezza Rice?

[calimary]

34. And randy scheunemann?

I'm actually kind of surprised that his name isn't on there. But I'll bet he's still lurking in the shadows. PNACers tend to stick together. paula dobriansky and robert zoellick are on jeb's list of "chosens" too, along with paul wolfowitz. That's at least three of 'em. But I'd bet there'll be more slithering their way in, too. These people will all want to bring their friends to the party with them.

http://www.publiceye.org/pnac_chart/pnac.html

[1norcal]

41. Condi

Running for the U.S. Senate in California, I'm afraid...

[ablamj]

46. The Dick

will probably head the V.P. Candidate search committee...

[MohRokTah]

7. It's a "Who's Who in People Who Gave Us Iraq". eom

[7962]

10. Maybe a "village idiot" convention?

[calimary]

35. Same thing. "Those who gave us the Iraq War" AND the "Village Idiot" contingent.

Same frickin' thing. And will guarantee us more of the same results.

[C Moon]

11. How is it that some of these guys are still alive, let alone still working in politics?

[pangaia]

14. James Baker is one truly evil, evil man.

He and Cheney are blood brothers...

[Ramses]

16. Porter Goss is especially despicable

[mia]

17. The light pink circle is reassuring.

Very few voters care about Cuba and most Hispanic voters are not Cuban.
Jeb has to deal with South Florida politics. Not a winning ticket for him.

[marym625]

18. NO JEBRO!

[annabanana]

19. DAMN ... Negroponte

My subconscious had nearly blocked out that name in sheer revulsion.

[pscot]

20. That pink cloud looks like a diabolical alien organism

getting ready to eat the world. Nobody can say they weren't warned.

[mia]

21. Paul Wolfowitz

[Snarkoleptic]

23. I hadn't heard of Lincoln Diaz-Balart prior to seeing this diagram; found some interesting stuff.

He is Fidel Castro's nephew and is brother of Jose Diaz-Balart (anchor from Telemundo and, more recently MSNBC host).
Paint me a cynic, but I'm guessing Lincoln Diaz-Balart is being used to make Jeb, who is an ORIGINAL PNAC SIGNATORY seem moderate. (and to garner support in the Hispanic demographic - never mind the vast differences between Cubans and other Hispanic groups)

In general, Diaz-Balart's voting record has been moderate by Republican standards. His lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union is 73.[4]

In 1994, he was one of only three Republican incumbents not to sign the Republican Contract with America. He objected to provisions in its welfare reform section that would deny federal programs to legal immigrants.

In 2006, he voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment and in 2009 voted for the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which expanded the federal hate crime law to include a person's perceived gender, sexual orientation, identity or disability. In December 2010, Diaz-Balart was one of fifteen Republican House members to vote in favor of repealing the United States military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" ban on openly gay service members.

He was a sponsor of the Homeland Security Act. He was a sponsor of the DREAM Act which seeks to facilitate access for illegal immigrant students to post-secondary education by allowing states to have power to determine requirements for in-state tuition.[9] He remains a steadfast proponent of comprehensive immigration reform. He has been a key figure in south Florida bringing millions of dollars to the community most notably one hundred million dollars to the US Southern Command, which is housed in district 21

[davidpdx]

42. Interesting background

I didn't recognize the name either. Dollars to donuts if Jeb runs he will be one of his foreign policy advisors.

[johnnyreb]

24. Baker Botts law firm represents the Saudis

Just a quick glance at ONE of these cronies:

The James Baker/Saudi "quid pro quo"?
December 2006

Now, you may remember that the 9/11 families filed a massive lawsuit against the Saudis, alleging their involvement in the attacks. Earlier this year, Newsweek ran an article that discussed the Saudi’s legal team and legal defense strategy. As part of this, a passing mention was made of the Housotn based law firm that was defending Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, the Saudi defense minister. That firm (a huge international law firm) is named Baker Botts. And guess who is one of their senior partners – one James A. Baker III.
(....)
This past Monday, Investor’s Business Daily (hardly a liberal paper) ran an Editorial/Opinion regarding Saudi Arabia called "The Saudi Factor". It mentions a few interesting tidbits, including the following note from the Iraq Study Group report:

Missing from the Baker report's 79 recommendations for stopping the violence in Iraq is perhaps the most obvious one: getting our "ally" Saudi Arabia to stop funding the insurgency there.

The 160-page report reveals on page 29 that the Saudis are backing the Sunni terrorists who are killing U.S. soldiers next door. But then it never returns to the subject. Poof! It's as if it were never mentioned.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/12/13/280623/-The-James-Baker-Saudi-quid-pro-quo

Why is Baker, ordinarily such a tough guy, so coy with the Saudis? Baker Botts, the law firm his grandfather founded, became a wealthy powerhouse by representing Saudi Arabia. But don't worry, the Iraq Study Group is balanced by Democrats including Vernon Jordan of the law firm of Akin, Gump which represents … Saudi royals.

http://www.gregpalast.com/the-baker-boys-stay-half-the-course/

[Enthusiast]

25. Without Jeb we won't get to have another world war.

Come on, people!

[Scarsdale]

26. Waiting

Have all these failures been waiting for another Bush presidency to show their faces again? Do ANY of these repubs. ever get jobs in the private sector, or just bide their time until they can get back on the government teat? Didn't Chertoff invent or had a partner who invented those full body scans at the airport? Now he is back, hoping to make a killing off another Bush made up WAR to replenish his wealth.

[blackspade]

27. A shit sandwich with an extra helping of shit.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. LOL - A war sandwich too !

[ALBliberal]

31. Condi?

[pansypoo53219]

32. that is not a new bubble.

[blkmusclmachine]

36. It pays to be part of "THE FAMILY."

[markpkessinger]

37. In other words . . .

. . . different Bush, same clown show!

[oldandhappy]

38. How old are the folk in the darker pinkie circles?

Helps me see that 2016 will be the last election for this group of repeats. Younger candidates next time around. But the advisors may hang on forever!!

[Solly Mack]

39. No surprise.

I'm sure there will be others.

[kydo]

40. Where is darth chenney in all this?

He was around under raygun, poppy and w no way he sits jebbie out. Way to much money to be made and many people that need to be slaughtered.

[davidpdx]

43. He's not human, you can't count him

[ablamj]

48. He'll be

choosing the V.P. Candidate...

[Stuart G]

45. k and r...no text...

[ScreamingMeemie]

47. But he's totally "different..."

Yeah...