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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:07 AM Apr 2012

* Norquist to Romney: Ryan owns you: We do "not expect Mr. Romney to lead as president."

* Norquist to Romney: Ryan owns you: Another telling nugget from the Times story: “Grover Norquist, the Republican strategist who heads Americans for Tax Reform, said in an interview that he did not expect Mr. Romney to lead as president. He just wants him to sign the bills that put Mr. Ryan’s vision into practice.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/us/politics/paul-ryans-kinetic-rise-in-gop.html?_r=1&ref=politics

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* Norquist to Romney: Ryan owns you: We do "not expect Mr. Romney to lead as president." (Original Post) kpete Apr 2012 OP
Grover hates Rmoney THAT MUCH? ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2012 #1
Back-handed way of saying"Just do what we say" louis-t Apr 2012 #2
Hmmm. Ryan was a protege of William Bennett? JHB Apr 2012 #3
Like I've said, they don't care how incompetent ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #4
Norquist is so drunk ... LASlibinSC Apr 2012 #5
I know... it's awesome! renate Apr 2012 #9
We're missing Dave Obey big time. Scuba Apr 2012 #16
Paul Ryan ronnie624 Apr 2012 #6
No, he expects the voters to believe he will close them n2doc Apr 2012 #7
No doubt about it. n/t ronnie624 Apr 2012 #8
Screw Norquist and Ryan TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #10
You can help screw Ryan... Scuba Apr 2012 #17
No like the other puppets from raygun on they are just a front. jwirr Apr 2012 #11
Of course not, Mitt will go home and help Ann with her WORK. freshwest Apr 2012 #12
Just like Bush/Cheney marble falls Apr 2012 #13
Romney/Ryan? alfredo May 2012 #25
Why the hell does anyone listen to Grover? Rex Apr 2012 #14
Two points nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #15
Reagan was a big revelation for the the conservatives of Norquist's generation. Marr Apr 2012 #18
That's all Bush ever was. A butt in a seat Gman Apr 2012 #19
Nice, Grover Tsiyu Apr 2012 #20
Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award rocktivity Apr 2012 #21
Norquist is using words that a slave owner uses. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2012 #22
Rmoney = the REAL Manchurian Candidate Suji to Seoul Apr 2012 #23
there was never a doubt who the cadidate would be spanone Apr 2012 #24
What An Insult This Is To DallasNE May 2012 #26
And Michigan appears to be the prelude to their kill democracy. lonestarnot May 2012 #27
And Ryan is another Etch-A-Sketch wielding bastard aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #28
Actually, He Ran Afoul With Catholic Church Teachings DallasNE May 2012 #29

JHB

(37,160 posts)
3. Hmmm. Ryan was a protege of William Bennett?
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:31 AM
Apr 2012

Did he have anything to say bout "czars" to the teabaggers who were suddenly so concerned about the term?

LASlibinSC

(269 posts)
5. Norquist is so drunk ...
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:37 AM
Apr 2012

with his power to hold sway over the repukes, I'm sure it never occured to him that someone would print that little nugget

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. I know... it's awesome!
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:07 PM
Apr 2012

I sure hope somebody picks it up and runs with it.

On a somewhat different but related topic, I thought this quote was telling:

"But those who know him cannot seem to dislike him.

“I’m stunned by how oblivious he is to the pain his policies would cause people,” said David R. Obey, a Democrat from Wisconsin who jousted often with his downstate colleague before retiring from the House at the end of 2010. “What amazes me is that someone that nice personally has such a cold, almost academic view of what the impact of his policies would be on people.”"

That's so... Reagan-y!

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
6. Paul Ryan
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:28 AM
Apr 2012

Idiot libertarian, who'll destroy Medicare and Social Security at the first opportunity, and wants a reduction in taxes for wealthy people. Somehow, he expects to close the loopholes they use to escape paying taxes.

Dumb-ass.

[link:http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/paul_d_ryan/index.html?inline=nyt-per|

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
7. No, he expects the voters to believe he will close them
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:41 AM
Apr 2012

No significant loopholes will ever be closed that benefit the Rich, I predict. If he could get away with only closing loopholes that benefit the poor, he will. The Earned Income Tax Credit is one.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. Why the hell does anyone listen to Grover?
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:26 PM
Apr 2012

That man was labeled a complete joke long ago...must be the attention span thingy.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
15. Two points
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:27 PM
Apr 2012

this is average for the POTUS from the RNC, has been like this since oh Reagan at least... they tend to chose CEO's not leaders.

Secondly... keep talking Grover. You are our best friend, I mean that as seriously as a heart attack. You are reminding people what the RNC WANTS to do.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
18. Reagan was a big revelation for the the conservatives of Norquist's generation.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:50 PM
Apr 2012

They've been selling controllable, tv-friendly morons ever since-- with the exception of daddy Bush's short tenure, which I really think was designed to segue into an eventual Quayle presidency.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
19. That's all Bush ever was. A butt in a seat
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 01:22 PM
Apr 2012

Just doing what he was told. I'm not sure Bush was ever evil. But he was/is weak minded.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
22. Norquist is using words that a slave owner uses.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:16 PM
Apr 2012

Last time I checked, owning slaves in the US is illegal. The slave owners took over the gop as soon as they murdered Lincoln.

spanone

(135,832 posts)
24. there was never a doubt who the cadidate would be
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:44 PM
Apr 2012

the media elevated any weekly winner to the status of mitt, but those in power got their man

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
26. What An Insult This Is To
Tue May 1, 2012, 01:40 AM
May 2012

Both Boehner and Romney as both would be Ryan's boss should Romney win (scary thought).

Even Ryan dances to the tune of Grover Norquist, according to this article. Lobbyists, in other words, would be in complete charge of the federal Government. And who can argue with that with Citizens United running the show.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
28. And Ryan is another Etch-A-Sketch wielding bastard
Tue May 1, 2012, 01:47 AM
May 2012

who has been a slave to the ideas of Ayn Rand his entire political life but who is suddenly backtracking (or pretending to backtrack) for political expediency.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
29. Actually, He Ran Afoul With Catholic Church Teachings
Tue May 1, 2012, 12:08 PM
May 2012

But the backtracking does not address any of the issues raised by the Catholic Church other than their condemnation of Ayn Rand. The Catholic Church made a mistake by including mention of Ayn Rand in their letter telling Ryan that his budget flies in the face of Catholic teachings because it gave Ryan the chance to deflect the criticism by only addressing the Rand point.

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