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Hillary Clinton Still Doesn't Get It March 5, 2015 "I want the public to see my email. I asked State to release them. They said they will review them for release as soon as possible." Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) March 5, 2015 If she wants us to see her email, why did she create a secret account stored on a dark server registered at her home? If she wants us to see her email, why didn't she give State all of her email rather than a self-censored fraction of the correspondence? ...Like everything else about the response to this controversy, Clinton's tweet is reminiscent of the 1990s, when her husband's White House overcame his wrongdoing by denying the truth, blaming Republicans, and demonizing and bullying the media. ...This is part of a pattern of bad behavior. My former employer, The Associated Press said Wednesday that it was considering legal action over years of stonewalling its requests for government documents covering Clinton's tenure as secretary of state . The AP has sought her full schedules and calendars and for details on the State Department's decision to grant a special position to a longtime Clinton aide, Huma Abedin, among other documents, the New York Times, reported. The oldest AP request was made in March 2010.... Read more~ http://www.nationaljournal.com/twenty-sixteen/hillary-clinton-still-doesn-t-get-it-20150305

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Oh, she gets it, and Ron Fournier is an ass BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #1

Oh is this written by Bushbot Ron Fournier? Then it's complete nonsense. closeupready Mar 2015 #18

AP's Ron Fournier To Karl Rove: "Keep Up The Fight" BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #19

Oh, yeah. He's a GOP shill, longtime. closeupready Mar 2015 #21

shit slinging spanone Mar 2015 #2

Sigh, more of the Clintons did it so its 10238j4eowinru worse than all the others who did the same.. uponit7771 Mar 2015 #3

More BS......yawn leftofcool Mar 2015 #4

That awkward moment when leftier-than-thou types cite Ron Fournier when geek tragedy Mar 2015 #5

I know, huh.. lol, Ron Fournier/rw hack Cha Mar 2015 #6

Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my enemy too./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #7

Its a bad sign indeed when even Third Way is dropping their support. RiverLover Mar 2015 #9

Fournier is a Republican hack. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #14

Strange bedfellows RiverLover Mar 2015 #16

LOL LOOK AT YOUR HEAD SPLODE Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #8

Oh lord! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #10

Ah yes, more good journalism from Ron Fournier ellie Mar 2015 #11

It occupies the mind fredamae Mar 2015 #12

A 'dark' server!? OH MY! 'Bootleg', 'homebrew' why not just Rex Mar 2015 #13

Really, the national journal and Fournier? Renew Deal Mar 2015 #15

Gee, Ron, you sure were OK with Bush WH destroying millions of emails and now you want blm Mar 2015 #17

I think that 2naSalit Mar 2015 #20

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)

1. Oh, she gets it, and Ron Fournier is an ass

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 09:59 AM

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For a better perspective on why the Clintons always invite trouble, read Frank Bruni's NYT piece yesterday:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/04/opinion/frank-bruni-hillary-and-bill-clinton-secrecy-and-state-department-emails.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region®ion=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region&_r=2

This passage is especially good:

She and Bill have lived their entire political lives under fire, some of it deserved, some of it not. It’s as if they decided at a certain point that they’d never get a fair shake and should cut the corners that they could and behave as they wished. Their foes would storm the gates regardless.

But there are times when the Clintons are their own worst enemies...

closeupready

(29,503 posts)

18. Oh is this written by Bushbot Ron Fournier? Then it's complete nonsense.

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:31 AM

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Thanks.

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)

19. AP's Ron Fournier To Karl Rove: "Keep Up The Fight"

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:57 AM

Mar 2015

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2008/07/aps-ron-fournier-karl-rove-keep-fight

Karl Rove exchanged e-mails about Pat Tillman with Associated Press reporter Ron Fournier, under the subject line "H-E-R-O." In response to Mr. Fournier's e-mail, Mr. Rove asked, "How does our country continue to produce men and women like this," to which Mr. Fournier replied, "The Lord creates men and women like this all over the world. But only the great and free countries allow them to flourish. Keep up the fight."

Ron Fournier. Riiiiight.

closeupready

(29,503 posts)

21. Oh, yeah. He's a GOP shill, longtime.

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:05 PM

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spanone

(135,827 posts)

2. shit slinging

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:01 AM

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uponit7771

(90,335 posts)

3. Sigh, more of the Clintons did it so its 10238j4eowinru worse than all the others who did the same..

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:02 AM

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...thing

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)

4. More BS......yawn

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:05 AM

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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

5. That awkward moment when leftier-than-thou types cite Ron Fournier when

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:05 AM

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complaining about Third Way pols.

Cha

(297,154 posts)

6. I know, huh.. lol, Ron Fournier/rw hack

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:10 AM

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)

7. Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my enemy too./NT

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:10 AM

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RiverLover

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9. Its a bad sign indeed when even Third Way is dropping their support.

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:14 AM

Mar 2015

They must see the writing on the wall.

Or is Ron not their official spokesperson?

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

14. Fournier is a Republican hack. nt

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:35 AM

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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)

16. Strange bedfellows

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:43 AM

Mar 2015

The Left Must Derail Hillary Clinton in the Primaries
December 12, 2014
http://billmoyers.com/2014/12/12/left-must-derail-hillary-clinton-primaries/

Capt. Obvious

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8. LOL LOOK AT YOUR HEAD SPLODE

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:12 AM

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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)

10. Oh lord!

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:15 AM

Mar 2015

The gop and the media has nothing else.

ellie

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11. Ah yes, more good journalism from Ron Fournier

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:19 AM

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fredamae

(4,458 posts)

12. It occupies the mind

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:23 AM

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instead of focusing on TPP/ACA/Environment/Climate Change/War Criminals/Wall Street/2008 Crash Crimes/Victims/Iran/Netanyahu and the BS the GOP House and Senate members get away with.......

I'm still holding out for real and credible evidence.

The more they go after her...for what I see (at this juncture) Petty nonsense..the Better she's looking. I'm going For the one "they" spend the Most on to Defeat.

Rex

(65,616 posts)

13. A 'dark' server!? OH MY! 'Bootleg', 'homebrew' why not just

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:27 AM

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come out and say she has a moonshine still hidden in the back 40 and a huge MJ garden! What will be next?

"Evil Matrix Server and HRC seemed to want SKYNET more than she wants to pray for the Baby Jesus! Details at 10!"

They couldn't get Pedophile Air to stick, the brought up the blue dress and burner phones...is HRC running for some kind of office or something?

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)

15. Really, the national journal and Fournier?

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:35 AM

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Your so desperate to attack Hillary you use crazed RW sources. I have to wonder why you visit them so often. This is your second post citing this source.

blm

(113,047 posts)

17. Gee, Ron, you sure were OK with Bush WH destroying millions of emails and now you want

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:25 AM

Mar 2015

to pretend that there is something completely nefarious about this, even though State Dept HAS the emails you are so concerned about now?

Fournier is a Bush man - always has been and always will be. He may stretch every now and then to criticize, but, only when he has no way left to lie openly for them.

He's at National Journal now to try and help push moderates towards Jeb and away from Clinton.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/twenty-sixteen/exclusive-the-education-of-jeb-bush-20150204

2naSalit

(86,569 posts)

20. I think that

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Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:58 AM

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the NJ doesn't get it.