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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:26 PM Mar 2015

Oil Industry's "Cure" for $2 gas? Invade Iran! Jeb Will Do It! He Said He Would in the 1990s!

I'm gonna make this fast and easy, because folks don't have the attention span they used to. This will not be a twenty paragraph OP with links and pics. This will be a 20 item list.

1. Gas Is Going to be $2 a gallon this summer

2. Exxon's profits are dropping

3. If we invade Iran, oil prices will go back through the roof

4. Jeb Bush is in the pocket of Big Oil

5. Jeb Bush helped write the "Project for a New American Century" in the 1990s, which called for invading Iraq and Iran, "liberating" their oil.

6. Jeb Bush's Brother, W. used 9-11---which happened on his watch due to his ineptitude---as an excuse to invade Iraq.

7. Oil prices were through the roof under W.'s watch.

8. In 2005, W. wanted to invade Iran, too, but the Pentagon would not let him. Did not want war on three fronts.

9. Did I mention that oil prices are going to drop to $2 a gallon this summer? Yeah, I did. Twice. This is the third time. That is because cheap gas is what this is all about. Or rather, the oil industry's plan to raise the price of gas back to $4 a gallon.

10. The NeoCons and their puppets---NYT, WaPo, certain factions in Israel, the GOP---are now demanding that we invade Iran. They are currently trying to soften up the American public to accept the idea of another war for oil in the Middle East.

11. Jeb Bush's number one problem if he runs for president will be his brother and father's oil-hawkish tendencies---they both went to war in the Middle East---and the fact that Jeb also is a well documented hawk who advocated invading Iran for its oil back in the 1990s.

12. America wishes we had never gotten into Iraq. America is leery of getting into Iran.

13. Jeb Bush's best chance at being president is to trick Dems into nominating someone who is not well known, so that the GOP controlled MSM can shape the debate on that person's "character." You know, call him or her a "waffler" a "fake". This will put the Dem nominee on the defensive like McGovern in 1972, keeping him or her from focusing on Jeb's many weaknesses.

14. Jeb Bush will crash and burn if he has to run against someone who already has a well known persona that can not be morphed by the MSM. Or against someone who is too charismatic to be trashed.

15. The Dems must nominate someone who is absolutely charming in person that no one in the press will want to trash his or her character---like another Obama---or someone with so much history that the public already knows the person. Howard Dean, Al Gore or Hillary Clinton all fit the bill. In other words, we need either charisma or fame. Or both. Give me a nominee with charisma and/or fame and I will jump on the bandwagon. Give me someone who is unknown to the majority of independent Americans and that person had better have "I wanna drink a beer with him/her" potential.

16. So, if you want someone fresh and new, ask yourself "How many independents will want to drink a beer with my candidate?" If the answer is "Not too many, but he or she will do great things once in office!" you are backing the wrong candidate.

17. If Jeb "wins" or steals this election, we will be at war in Iran, our national debt with go through the roof again, you will be paying $4 a gallon for oil.

18. Since this is a free country (for at least two more years) you have a right to ignore number 17 and parrot the GOP whose current talking point for the Dem primary is that Clinton is a "war hawk". Go on. You know you want to say it. War hawk, war hawk, war hawk. Rand Paul called her that on Meet the Press last year. Rand Paul told the nation's Democrats that if they nominate Clinton, she will be perceived as too "hawkish" for independent America. I am sooo glad that Rand Paul has our party's best interests at heart. (Yeah, I am being sarcastic).

19. Anyone who rushes to defend Rand Paul and spit on Hillary Clinton in the replies to this thread is, by definition, a Republican. No, this point is not negotiable.

20. The "enemy" is not any Democrat. The enemy is Jeb Bush/the NeoCons/ and Big Oil.


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Oil Industry's "Cure" for $2 gas? Invade Iran! Jeb Will Do It! He Said He Would in the 1990s! (Original Post) McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 OP
Oops. PS. Brother Jeb is already waging a general election battle against Clinton. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #1
Time to dust off those folders that have Hutzpa Mar 2015 #2
Woowza, I had no idea Jeb had this in the bag. obxhead Mar 2015 #3
If gas stays at $2 a gallon, he does. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #4
lol. obxhead Mar 2015 #6
and what makes you think that Hillary wouldn't??? cali Mar 2015 #5
Thanks for proving my point! McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #7
It's charming.. sendero Mar 2015 #8
Big Money Does not Equal Big Oil. "Big Money" includes manufacturing, retail, transportation McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #10
how on earth does this prove your point? and for that matter, what is your point? cali Mar 2015 #9
his/her point is obxhead Mar 2015 #13
Fuck Jeb Bush, the oil companies, and the BFEE. Initech Mar 2015 #11
Now that's the spirit! McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #12

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
1. Oops. PS. Brother Jeb is already waging a general election battle against Clinton.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:31 PM
Mar 2015

Just wanted to point this out for anyone here who has not noticed this yet. He has all the usual Bush suspects working 24-7 to tear her down in order to prop himself up. Just as if this were the general election. If he can keep this up for a whole year while Dems ignore him and allow him to reshape his own "character" as a "I was just kidding about the Project for the New American Century. I'm a lovable Bubba that you would love to have a beer with", we will be at war in Iran in 2017.

So, if you are gonna post something calling Clinton a "war-hawk" be sensible and also write an OP about Jeb being an "oil-war-hawk". Or else, 2016 will get here and the general public won't believe us when we try to tell them that he is just like his Brother.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
2. Time to dust off those folders that have
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:42 PM
Mar 2015

been sitting in the attic and no amount of deleting emails is going to save him either.

Another example that shows republicans care less about Americans over their own interests in as much that they will lie, steal, cheat and do whatever to pursue their skewered morales.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
3. Woowza, I had no idea Jeb had this in the bag.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:45 PM
Mar 2015

Thank you for informing me.

Eta:

Every rebup actually running in 2012 "had it in the bag" except for Romney. He was the downtrodden back of the pack politian in the great game, until he wasn't.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
6. lol.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:53 PM
Mar 2015

I'm paying $2.40 a gallon, but that's kinda moot. There might be a true crash this summer bringing oil down to a $1 a gallon again. Our reserves are nearly capped off and there are thousands of tankers anchored that can't unload.

But that alone will not annoint anyone, including Jeb.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. and what makes you think that Hillary wouldn't???
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:53 PM
Mar 2015

Her record certainly points to her doing just that.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
8. It's charming..
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 01:03 PM
Mar 2015

.. that you actually think that the Clintons are any less beholden to big money than the Bushes. LOL.

How do you think they left office near broke but are now multi multi multi millionaires? All that money for "speaking fees" and such doesn't come free.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
10. Big Money Does not Equal Big Oil. "Big Money" includes manufacturing, retail, transportation
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 01:14 PM
Mar 2015

and everything that makes Main Street. During the Bush administration, many sectors of the economy suffered due to artificially high oil prices. The only other sector that benefited was the Banking industry which could take advantage of all the price rigging. A few business sectors were neutral--like insurance and the MSM---and Rove could pull them into the fold with promises of special favors. But the manufacturing sector---like GE/MSNBC/NBC was hurt by high oil prices. So was transportation. So was retail.

Big Oil is going to fight like a dog in order to keep control of the GOP. Their own primary is going to be interesting to watch. The ideological right hates the Bushes, the same way that the ideological left hates Clinton. However, in the end, Big Oil will prevail--at least in the GOP--- because they are the most desperate---and they have the CIA and 8 years of warrantless wiretap info at their disposal. And we will see a battle of Big Oil versus The Rest of the Business Community in the general--regardless of who the nominees are.

Yes, I know that this sounds no fun at all. But politics is not fun. Politics is about jobs and wages and the economy. Politics is a lot like choosing which feudal family you want to serve in old Japan.

Gore Vidal was correct. It is all the "Money Party". But there are lots of ways to make money, and some of them are better for working class America than others. Big Oil is just about the worst of them.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
13. his/her point is
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 05:31 PM
Mar 2015

Clinton is godly, anyone and everyone else is less.

Clinton is the answer to all of the prayers Obama couldn't solve.

(The real answer is s/he is fucking delusional.)

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