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NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 08:43 AM Mar 2015

Boy's 'military haircut' spurs suspension threat, outcry

A young boy's high and tight haircut meant to honor his soldier-stepbrother earned him the threat of suspension from an elementary school named for a Medal of Honor recipient, and the fallout from the incident has led a Tennessee school district to increase security measures.

Adam Stinnett went to Bobby Ray Memorial Elementary School in McMinnville, about a 90-minute drive southeast from Nashville, on March 9 sporting the new hairdo. His mother, Amy Stinnett, said he'd requested the high and tight to be more like Spc. Justin Bloodworth, his active-duty stepbrother.

Adam was written up by the principal, who thought the haircut was against school policy banning "mohawk haircuts or other extreme cuts."

After his mother received an email from the principal and stopped by for a face-to-face chat, it was made clear that Adam's hairstyle would have to change before he returned to school.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/27/school-threatens-suspension-boy-military-haircut/70531810/

Are they only hiring jackasses as principals these days? Yesterday we had that principal who didn't want the special needs student to wear a letter jacket, and now this jughead goes apeshit over a "military" haircut that he thinks is a Mohawk.

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Boy's 'military haircut' spurs suspension threat, outcry (Original Post) NaturalHigh Mar 2015 OP
I found that people who go after the management jobs with all the hastles involved LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #1
Yep, same here. They want power, control and authoritarianism. It's also a career path RKP5637 Mar 2015 #8
I totally agree. My last manager was the only one that was ever different. He was manager LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #20
In many cases, you are exactly correct... paleotn Mar 2015 #28
Oh God, Peter Principle.. Lawyers and business people couldn't make it so they LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #36
Looking at you Ted Telcontar Mar 2015 #50
One of my father's favorite sayings for asshats such as these was; greiner3 Mar 2015 #57
So what's the Principal's solution? Make him wear a wig until it grows back? (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #2
The mother had to shave the boy's head. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #4
Still sounds like an extreme haircut to me. stone space Mar 2015 #6
"Still sounds like an extreme haircut to me." NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #7
principal will be hearing from the internet Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #3
I hope so. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #5
Yep. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #9
Sounds like manufactured outrage to me. zeemike Mar 2015 #10
Cool story bro. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #11
Can't live without the daily outrage abelenkpe Mar 2015 #14
Huh? I don't get it. Quantess Mar 2015 #75
No I am saying it is manufactured outrage. zeemike Mar 2015 #79
Oh do you mean RWers are blaming it on a long-haired hippie principal Quantess Mar 2015 #78
No I think they are blaming it on the public school system zeemike Mar 2015 #81
Dear schools everywhere: lake loon Mar 2015 #12
Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner. paleotn Mar 2015 #29
This stupid suspension won't last for long, TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #13
Per the article, it's presumably already over. Bibliovore Mar 2015 #18
hem allan01 Mar 2015 #15
I'm not sure what you said... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #16
Idiots. blackspade Mar 2015 #17
Same here. I got a mohawk in 1979. My high school did not care. FSogol Mar 2015 #48
.... blackspade Mar 2015 #52
Who hires someone with a Mohawk ? CentralMass Mar 2015 #65
Someone who doesn't give a shit about hairstyles. eggplant Mar 2015 #67
My boss. blackspade Mar 2015 #70
Well, plenty of people do, but that's really not the point. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #73
Remember when boys were suspended for hair deemed too long? nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #19
No, but we had to have short hair to play football. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #21
In the late 1960s and early 1970s, schools suspended boys for hair longer than tblue37 Mar 2015 #22
Well hippies are responsible for moral decay, violent crime, and war, you know. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #23
I remember those days. Ilsa Mar 2015 #53
I imagine this appearing at Freeperville as a "Libs hate the military" story. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #24
More like a tight-ass principal who reads the rule book like an IRS auditor. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #25
Ha! That's for sure.... paleotn Mar 2015 #31
Locals vote for their school board RandiFan1290 Mar 2015 #34
You're right. World 'Nut' Daily and other RW media and blogs jumped on this in a flash. pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #42
Fox website loves the non-story and is doing exactly that! Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #44
I wouldn't know. I don't go there. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #46
And now that you do know the story is loved in the RW media to bash liberals....?? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #47
It still pisses me off about the haircut. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #49
Well, if a "liberal" did this, he NEEDS to be bashed. Adrahil Mar 2015 #71
Thank you. I don't think I was getting my point across. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #72
We should agree with the principle? Inkfreak Mar 2015 #76
+1 treestar Mar 2015 #55
Well, at least everybody seems to agree that he's a jackass. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #60
Right Wingers really believe all things bad are from Liberals. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #62
And that most educators are liberals who brainwash kids in public schools, of course. nt pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #63
who repealed the 60s, anyway? mopinko Mar 2015 #26
It's the same cut my grandpa got when I was a kid. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #32
I think Mohawks are ugly. I think a lot of things are ugly. Do I get to decide how others look? Shrike47 Mar 2015 #27
Dumb outrage du jour alcibiades_mystery Mar 2015 #30
You'd think that in the bible belt Chicago1980 Mar 2015 #33
Hmmm.. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #35
That's what his mother did. She shaved it all. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #39
He's gone from a military haircut to a Gandhi 'do. stone space Mar 2015 #77
Come on, it was a misunderstanding, like it says in the article...this is Fox level "outrage". Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #37
I'll be sure to ask you what I can post next time. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #41
Just saying your conclusions and outrage are not based on facts. Of course, post what you like, as will I. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #43
Hey thanks! That's very kind of you! NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #45
The short answer to this question is "yes". Smarmie Doofus Mar 2015 #38
If this principal VA_Jill Mar 2015 #40
I can see how sabbat hunter Mar 2015 #51
Love that this thread receives more attention than abelenkpe Mar 2015 #54
Well, it's Saturday. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #61
So "high and tight" is "extreme" but "completely bald" is not? Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #56
"And some DUers are defending this policy?" NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #59
Knowing USAToday,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #58
Approved Hairstyles for Males Quackers Mar 2015 #64
The pompadour on the lower left is a little risque for my taste. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #66
Hey kid: You know what's really "military"? Doing what you are told. redgreenandblue Mar 2015 #68
Yep. Kids need to learn not to question the authorities (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #69
It is certainly not my intent to advocate authoritarianism. redgreenandblue Mar 2015 #74
Maybe the principal didn't realize it's a military haircut? RandySF Mar 2015 #80

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
1. I found that people who go after the management jobs with all the hastles involved
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 08:47 AM
Mar 2015

are generally control freaks.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
8. Yep, same here. They want power, control and authoritarianism. It's also a career path
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:15 AM
Mar 2015

for sociopaths.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
20. I totally agree. My last manager was the only one that was ever different. He was manager
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:51 AM
Mar 2015

because he was essentially lead tech before. He was the only manager I had ever known who told upper management to fire him if they layed off any of his people. He meant it. When company wide layoffs were going on, his was the only dept to have never had a person canned. He just recently taken a job in engineering (non management) and moved away from operations.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
28. In many cases, you are exactly correct...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:01 AM
Mar 2015

couple that with the Peter Principle and you have management in the US, from major corporations down to rural elementary schools.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
36. Oh God, Peter Principle.. Lawyers and business people couldn't make it so they
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:18 AM
Mar 2015

bought jobs as Senators or Representatives. Now they want to rise to their own level of imcompetance to become President.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
57. One of my father's favorite sayings for asshats such as these was;
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:13 AM
Mar 2015

He's a perfect example of the Peter Principle (no pun);

"The Peter Principle is a concept in management theory in which the selection of a candidate for a position is based on the candidate's performance in their current role rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role. Thus, employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and "managers rise to the level of their incompetence."'


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

He was both chief of staff and head social worker at a VA hospital and was at the highest pay grade possible so I don't think this applied to him, IMO.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
6. Still sounds like an extreme haircut to me.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:03 AM
Mar 2015


I don't follow hair restoration technology (although I probably should!), but might a hair transplant be a possibility?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
7. "Still sounds like an extreme haircut to me."
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:10 AM
Mar 2015

Well, that's what I was thinking. I think I'd just go back to school in a Doink the Clown wig.

As for hair restoration technology, that ship sailed a decade or so ago for me.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
9. Yep.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:29 AM
Mar 2015
The school district has taken down its Facebook page after a deluge of comments, said Bobby Cox, the district's director of schools. He said the messages were "not necessarily threatening" but added to an incident that had caused the district "great stress." He also said more security had been added to the elementary school. "It's been portrayed that we are anti-military, anti-patriot, and we are not," Cox told Army Times. "I'm just sorry that's been the way it's been portrayed."

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
10. Sounds like manufactured outrage to me.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:29 AM
Mar 2015

Right wingers do that well...especialy sense they are the ones who want to destroy public education.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
14. Can't live without the daily outrage
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:36 AM
Mar 2015

What better way to keep us fighting amongst ourselves over petty BS?

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
79. No I am saying it is manufactured outrage.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:53 PM
Mar 2015

If someone hates the school system they do things to show how fucked up it is and let the outrage flow.
It is how you undermine any system...and how you manipulate people.
Buy right wingers would never do that would they?

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
78. Oh do you mean RWers are blaming it on a long-haired hippie principal
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:47 PM
Mar 2015

who says anything goes, the wilder and more counter-culture the better, and only has a problem with military style high & tight?

Somehow I think that is is a stretch, but you never know. Some people don't do reading comprehension very well, but still... it says right in the article mohawks aren't allowed either.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
81. No I think they are blaming it on the public school system
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 08:02 PM
Mar 2015

Being oppressive of patriotic people...which is what the right wing has believed sense the John Birch Society started the attack on public education.

First I ask you why the Mohawk was in it in the first place and why the parent decided to give her kid that cut...it reminds me of the kid that got suspended for chewing a pop tart into a gun...why did they do that?...but it again sparked outrage by the right and caused us to support such a stupid reason for a suspension.

They get by with manipulating us and them with emotions.

 

lake loon

(99 posts)
12. Dear schools everywhere:
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:33 AM
Mar 2015

Hairstyles and clothing styles and sexual orientations and gender identities are none of your god-damned business. Just teach, OK??

allan01

(1,950 posts)
15. hem
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:39 AM
Mar 2015

reminds me the time when my sis gave me a mohawk without my consent, i as suspended until the hair grew back. ot why do we need spell check in web browsers when they dont work. i fell the pain of the young man. i wonder how the school district would react to what was called a " morman" haircut , shaved around the ears and top left on ?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
17. Idiots.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:41 AM
Mar 2015

I had an 'actual' Mohawk in high school and no administrator said shit.
My kids go to school with kids with Mohawks today.
Who hires these fools?

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
67. Someone who doesn't give a shit about hairstyles.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:43 AM
Mar 2015

Why would someone's hairstyle keep me from hiring them?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
21. No, but we had to have short hair to play football.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:51 AM
Mar 2015

Really short. We would show up to football practice the first day with new haircuts. Our coach would single out the ones whose hair wasn't short enough and send them to get more shorn off.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
22. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, schools suspended boys for hair longer than
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:54 AM
Mar 2015

their ears. Fear of hippies, you know.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
23. Well hippies are responsible for moral decay, violent crime, and war, you know.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:56 AM
Mar 2015

I have it on good authority that they've killed everyone since Jesus.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
53. I remember those days.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:46 AM
Mar 2015

They thought strict dress codes would keep teens off drugs and girls unpregnant in my area. If only they had handed out condoms, half of my high school class wouldn't have been parents by age 18.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
25. More like a tight-ass principal who reads the rule book like an IRS auditor.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:58 AM
Mar 2015

I doubt that the McMinnville TN schools are known for being too liberal.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
31. Ha! That's for sure....
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:09 AM
Mar 2015

...Liberals are about as common in Warren County as hen's teeth. More than likely it's an authoritarian type, high on their perceived importance but low on cognitive ability. Sounds like the prototypical southern, neoconservative to me.

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
34. Locals vote for their school board
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:14 AM
Mar 2015

"They have every right to enforce their own codes, no matter how trivial they might seem."

You don't get to change the rules just because you have a military fetish

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
42. You're right. World 'Nut' Daily and other RW media and blogs jumped on this in a flash.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:28 AM
Mar 2015

It was the mother who aggrsssively promoted this to the media as an attack on patriotism and the military and veterans. Outrage ensued...

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
49. It still pisses me off about the haircut.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:40 AM
Mar 2015

I'm not playing the whole "hates the military" or "unpatriotic" angle, and I'm not planning to practice up on my Seppuku because you don't like it.

As I said before, thanks kindly. Now goodbye.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
71. Well, if a "liberal" did this, he NEEDS to be bashed.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:05 PM
Mar 2015

Suspending a kid for getting a high and tight is RIDICULOUS. When I was a kid, me and almost all my friends got high and tights every spring and wore them all summer, and then let our hair grow come October.

There is nothing extreme about a high and tight. It is a traditional haircut.

Suspending a kid over that hair cut hands ammunition to right wing dumb asses. Don't give them free ammo. It's that simple.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
76. We should agree with the principle?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:15 PM
Mar 2015

What foolishness. No thanks. Fox RWers and this principle can go fuck themselves. I've had a high-n-tight since I was a kid. Best haircut ever.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
55. +1
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:50 AM
Mar 2015

Exactly. While DU is busy seeing principal control freak authoritarian, the same person is being deemed a liberal by freepers.

mopinko

(70,089 posts)
26. who repealed the 60s, anyway?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 09:59 AM
Mar 2015

damn. we thought we won this battle, and here we are again.

how the hell can a military cut be extreme? i do not get it. it's a fucking crew cut. i thought that we the required cut for the uptight right.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
27. I think Mohawks are ugly. I think a lot of things are ugly. Do I get to decide how others look?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:00 AM
Mar 2015

Cool. A lot of people are going to find their hair, piercings, tattoos and jewelry are right out! What, you mean I don't get to control everybody? What kind of a deal is that?

In case it's unclear, I think the principal blew it.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
33. You'd think that in the bible belt
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:13 AM
Mar 2015

these so called "Patriots" would know the difference between a Mohawk and a Military haircut.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
35. Hmmm..
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:17 AM
Mar 2015

If the boy were to shave off the rest of his hair, he'd look like a skin head, which is synonymous with racism and sexism and violence against minorities. Out of curiousity, would the Principle have an objection to that?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
43. Just saying your conclusions and outrage are not based on facts. Of course, post what you like, as will I.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:32 AM
Mar 2015
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
38. The short answer to this question is "yes".
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:20 AM
Mar 2015

>>>Are they only hiring jackasses as principals these days? >>>>>

The longer answer is "well, *generally* YES."

The entire field ( education) has been radically dumbed-down starting w. GWB and NCLB in the early 2000s and then taking off like a rocket ship in 2009.

Our rulers ( who have never used and WILL never use public schools themselves) have determined that they want trained monkeys as classroom teachers and Nazi comandantes in charge of the buildings... and of the monkeys.





VA_Jill

(9,966 posts)
40. If this principal
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:23 AM
Mar 2015

cannot tell the difference between a mohawk and a military "high and tight", then he needs to get his sorry ass back to school.....NOW. Because he is obviously too stupid to be the "principal teacher" which is what "principal" signifies.

sabbat hunter

(6,829 posts)
51. I can see how
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:44 AM
Mar 2015

that can be mistaken for a mohawk, although mohawks are generally narrower than that.

only way to fix it really is to shave the rest off and let it grow back

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
54. Love that this thread receives more attention than
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:47 AM
Mar 2015

the one about continued pollution from fracking in drought ridden CA.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
56. So "high and tight" is "extreme" but "completely bald" is not?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:51 AM
Mar 2015


And some DUers are defending this policy?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
59. "And some DUers are defending this policy?"
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:14 AM
Mar 2015

Afraid we might seem too "conservative" apparently. Since when is it conservative to acknowledge when an authority figure acts like a jackass?

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
66. The pompadour on the lower left is a little risque for my taste.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:37 AM
Mar 2015

I'd probably tell him to get off my lawn!

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
68. Hey kid: You know what's really "military"? Doing what you are told.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:58 AM
Mar 2015

If your teacher tells you to drop the stupid haircut and get with the program you do it. Whining to the media about a disciplinary measure has "special snowflake" written all over it, which is the opposite of "military".

I imagine the irony is lost to the parents.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
74. It is certainly not my intent to advocate authoritarianism.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:00 PM
Mar 2015

Just to point out the irony of someone attempting to make a "people don't respect the military enough" point by demanding an exception to a rule that applies to everyone equally and creating drama in the media.

(to be clear: I think this is mostly the work of the parents)

RandySF

(58,786 posts)
80. Maybe the principal didn't realize it's a military haircut?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:53 PM
Mar 2015

I once notice a mohawk on someone and he mentioned that it's common in the military now. It was a sign if rebellion when I was a kid.

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