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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSmall boycott of Indiana: Committed to driving through there, decided to take sandwiches and bypass
their restaurants. Filling up with gas in Ohio.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)I usually shop where I see the best bargains, sometimes in Indiana and sometimes in Michigan. From now on, I'll only head north for regular shopping needs. Another small protest, but will make me feel so much better.
world wide wally
(21,740 posts)ybbor
(1,554 posts)As a Michigander it is getting bad, and I do live Ann Arbor which is quite isolated social and culturally, but I am not sure we are there yet. The west side of the state definitely is, but the rest is still somewhat sane.
We did screw up in 2010 in allowing the Repubs to control the redistricting, and last November re-electing Snyder, but I'd like to think that we are not that far gone, yet.
I guess that I've said yet twice, may be proving your statement true.
marym625
(17,997 posts)I live in Chicago. Won't go into Indiana unless I have to go through it. And if I do, I won't stop.
You and AlinPA inspired my post this morning. Thank you
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)...you should be able to make it as far as just over the state line in Chicago before you need to gas up again.
I'm sure you're not the only one who'll be doing this, so I wouldn't call it a "small" boycott.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)The toll road is so in the red it's ridiculous -- when it was given to the foreign firm to run, the thought was it would become more profitable. Nope -- just the opposite.
When we travel up that way we usually take U.S. 24, which roughly parallels the toll road.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)complete night and day difference from Indiana. I've been doing the "take a lunch with me" thing for years when making the trip from Iowa to upstate NY for family visits.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)lancer78
(1,495 posts)They also have religious exemption laws.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Lots of states I want to avoid. Texas too
niyad
(113,259 posts)board of tourism, why you are doing it.
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)that are openly stating their inclusion of everyone and refuse to follow that stupid law.
http://www.openforservice.org/#about
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Augiedog
(2,545 posts)Every year I go to D.C. From wisconsin, usually through Indiana. Not any more. If I'm forced to go through Indiana for some reason I will spend as little money and time their as is possible for me and my family.
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)Have you considered that the store or restaurant you're bypassing DOESN'T support discrimination, and that it's owners may not have voted for Pence or supported the Law?
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)is maybe those people you mention will become more active in voting for decent legislators and governors if their travel business is falling off.
pansypoo53219
(20,972 posts)DrBulldog
(841 posts)... hoosiers and losers.
calimary
(81,220 posts)Glad you're here! I actually feel sorry for the businesses in Indiana that don't go along with this and try to stand out in the open, serving EVERYONE. But, unfortunately, they may have to suffer too. For the point to be made. You have to ask yourself - HOW did a knuckle dragger like mike pence GET INTO the governor's office? Did he get in there with guns blazing and shooting everybody who stood in his way? Did he drop in via helicopter and Seal Team 6 in the middle of the night? Did he and his minions fly over all of Indiana sprinkling sleeping powder everywhere, so everyone was asleep on Election Day and only his teammates were still awake and able to vote?
HOW DID HE GET THAT JOB?????
It's because enough people voted for him, or failed to vote for his opponent. IT'S THE VOTERS. It ALWAYS comes down to THE VOTERS. One way or other, there were more of them on the bad-guy side than there were on his opponent's side.
Given that, we have to ask WHERE WERE THE VOTERS FOR THE OPPONENT? Did they, as I see so often here, decide they were gonna "send a message" of their unhappiness with their own choice for governor? Didn't like pence's opponent - wasn't perfect enough, so fuck it. I'm staying home. Why should I bother voting? Won't do any good anyway. Both sides the same. There's no difference. They're all on the take from Wall Street. OR - They're all on the take from big business. OR - WHATEVER-THE-HELL the excuse is this week.
Well, THIS is why you get up off yer behind and go to the polls and vote. THIS is what happens when you don't. When you feel the need to withhold voting for whatever reason or rationale. THIS is what you get. THIS is WHO you get. Because, rest ASSURED, the bad guy's team is gonna get off THEIR asses and go vote. They won't fail. They wouldn't miss the chance to do so. AND because THEY KNOW you're gonna get discouraged and stay home so they're free to run the table unchallenged. As a matter of fact - THEY'RE COUNTING ON YOU TO DO THAT. That's what they WANT and HOPE and PRAY you'll do. Because you will effectively HAND THE ELECTION to them without their firing a shot. They're COUNTING on it.
So why do you want to go along with that? Why WOULD you want to go along with that, feed into that, support that, further that, make that happen?
You really want THIS???? SERIOUSLY????? Then by all means, don't vote. Because THIS shit is what you'll wind up with. You'll have the bad guys deciding for you, and you'll have no voice and no recourse. THIS is what you WILL get.
And frankly, how are we to know that some of those businesses who don't go along with this - maybe some of THEM didn't bother to vote, either. Maybe they figured - "naaaaaah. Not gunna happen." Just like my CONservative friend from karate class who was a staunch republi-CON but still supported a woman's right to choose. She was just SURE that "s'not gonna happen. NOT gonna happen." Oh yeah? Look around you. Check the headlines. It's about to! And all the time you sat there and sneered and in your smugness insisted it wasn't gonna happen... the forces behind it were inching closer and closer and closer and nobody's done squat to stop them, and it's about to happen. It's ONE Supreme Court ruling away.
Don't forget Barbara Boxer's words to that idiot james inhofe several years ago, as SHE took over the Senate committee on the environment. And she gestured in his face with what was now HER gavel, stopping him in mid-sentence while he was going on and on, demoted from chairman to ranking member, but still pontificating and showboating about what he thought the committee should be doing (something that had formally just become HER job as of that moment) and said she said "elections have consequences." They sure as hell do!!!!!
I'm sorry - but anything that adds to the sales tax base, in effect, reinforces this shit. We hear often the phrase - "the cost of doing business." Well, here it is. In the flesh. If you have the misfortune to try to do business in a state like Indiana, that pulls shit like this, then that's what you get. That last election has consequences - for YOU, too.
THINK ABOUT IT - next time you assume the best thing to do, to protest what you don't like, is to refuse to vote.
Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)when I travel to WI from PA to visit family. I dread stopping in IN on those trips because it always seems filthy and conservative. This is it for me, though. Fuck that state.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)same when they can, fuel up and plan as best they can to do a straight drive through for some states. A couple of states I've gotten off the beaten path for food/gas, had too, when driving cross country - I've hit some really really creepy conservative areas. Filled up and got the hell out asap, "filthy and conservative" and the people looked wacky as hell.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)i wish they could pull it out of there but it really is too late. I'm sure Pence planned the signing of that bill to ensure the NCAA would have to stay in Indianapolis.
And I cannot begrudge the fans of the teams who want to attend nor the players who worked so hard.
So for those who do go just make sure the businesses you do patronize know you are a supporter - ask the owners if they have issues with homosexuality. If they do then leave and go elsewhere.
When these Jim Crow business start to see their bottom line drop then they'll realize that hate is not a good way to run a business.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)drive straight through. And there are some states we won't ever stay overnight in, they are just too creepy.