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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:11 PM Apr 2015

Did "Clinton Cash" author lie about having a forthcoming muckraking book about Jeb Bush?

The New York Times and Washington Post latched on to Clinton Cash potentially because they were led to believe that a companion book was coming out about Jeb Bush. However, Schweizer’s publisher said that there is no Jeb Bush book coming out.


http://www.politicususa.com/2015/04/25/republican-clinton-cash-scandal-collapses-book-released.html
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Did "Clinton Cash" author lie about having a forthcoming muckraking book about Jeb Bush? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 OP
If true ... GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #1
He did tell George Stephanopoulos he has a book coming out in the Summer... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #3
He just now (Monday morning) tavernier Apr 2015 #40
You can have an International Foundation, or you can be Secretary of State. You can't have both. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #2
bull OKNancy Apr 2015 #5
+100 nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #12
unhinged, could be an adjective used to describe boston bean Apr 2015 #16
Some people hate charity and Hillary Clinton The Second Stone Apr 2015 #18
I assume that some people would rather he took DURHAM D Apr 2015 #28
Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #29
All the people who have HIV ... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #7
Don't worry, the Clinton Foundation will go on, and Hillary will have plenty of time to spend on it. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #11
I don't believe saving folks from AIDs and preventing kids from pooping themselves to death DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #15
"Hillary being a great president" is impossible, so the argument is moot. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #22
That's a theory in search of reality. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #23
She might win the primary, but she'll lose the General Election. Too risky. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #24
Please see Post 23 DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #25
The worse Hillary looks, the more likely challengers will step up. Please Kick and Rec this OP: NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #26
Nobody will run for the same reason I wouldn't walk up on Floyd Mayweather and slap him.... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #27
Nobody will run? I think you are wrong. morningfog Apr 2015 #38
Conflict of interest can exist in different forms. I could say you are pushing for other Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #9
+100 nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #14
+200. eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #19
"It doesn't matter one bit if the author lied." OilemFirchen Apr 2015 #17
If I can just make this Rec to the Power of a Million!.. Absolutely Spot On NYC SKP 2banon Apr 2015 #31
Thanks. It was all rolling in around in my head and then finally gelled. One or the other not both NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #34
I'm with you customerserviceguy Apr 2015 #35
My money would be on Barack coming out ahead. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #37
Yep customerserviceguy Apr 2015 #39
$600, 0000 Salary for being a Rookie reporter. Just freaking beyond amazing, isn't it? 2banon Apr 2015 #36
"potentially" cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #4
NYT and the post have lost credibility. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #6
Yeah, Way back in 2003, right? Judith Miller.. WMD's, Tom Friedman and everythin wrt to Baby Yahoo. 2banon Apr 2015 #32
Miller is a disgrace to journalism. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #33
I read they ( or he) said his Jeb Bush writings would be on his website OKNancy Apr 2015 #8
"On his website" versus "book" DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #10
With absolutely no knowledge, I would not think it unlikely karynnj Apr 2015 #13
"it would be an easy hit on his credibility" BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #20
Of course this idiot lied Gothmog Apr 2015 #21
More DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #30
He certainly has some DU pals though. Kingofalldems Apr 2015 #41

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
3. He did tell George Stephanopoulos he has a book coming out in the Summer...
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:18 PM
Apr 2015

The Summer is almost here and Occam's Razor suggests his publisher would be aware of that fact if it was the case.

tavernier

(12,408 posts)
40. He just now (Monday morning)
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:32 AM
Apr 2015

Told Savannah Guthrie that he is four months into researching it. Her smirk was was as good as an eye roll. Loved the way she made him look stupid with some very simple questions.

I'm liking this lady more and more, ever since she didn't allow Rand Paul to shut her up.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. You can have an International Foundation, or you can be Secretary of State. You can't have both.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:18 PM
Apr 2015

You can't ague against this, no valid argument can be made:

It doesn't matter one bit if the author lied. Clinton has a conflict of interest problem, at least the appearance of one.

That's the truth of this matter.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are nothing if not ambitious. Hell, they've broken records.

HOWEVER, a person, alone, would never get away with operating an international foundation with hundreds of millions in revenue WHILE acting as Secretary of State.

At least not one meeting with people involved in petroleum and uranium in sensitive areas of the world and allowing funds to go from them to the foundation.

Yet that is EXACTLY what we have here.

"The Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation"

Obama should probably have done her a favor and chosen somebody else.

You can have an International Foundation, or you can be Secretary of State. You can't have both, and then expect to be elected president.

Damn, Hillary. Take a break.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
5. bull
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:23 PM
Apr 2015

So Bill Clinton decides to start a charity and try to help people all over the world...
so that means his wife should stay home or out of politics.

Your constant harangue is really tiresome.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
16. unhinged, could be an adjective used to describe
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:44 PM
Apr 2015

some of the "criticism"... in quotes for a reason..

If it doesn't sound like Alex Jones, or some libertarian whacko nonsense, it is pure right wing pablum, imho.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
18. Some people hate charity and Hillary Clinton
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:49 PM
Apr 2015

and that is their prerogative. I call them Republicans.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
28. I assume that some people would rather he took
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 02:05 PM
Apr 2015

a position on the board of the Carlyle Group.


Well... some don't seem to know the difference.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
7. All the people who have HIV ...
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:25 PM
Apr 2015

All the people who have HIV who are being saved by the Clinton Foundation should just go ahead and die and all the children who die from dysentery by literally pooping themselves to death because they don't have access to clean water should just die also because some people don't like the Clintons.


Ain't gonna happen.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
11. Don't worry, the Clinton Foundation will go on, and Hillary will have plenty of time to spend on it.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:40 PM
Apr 2015

Which is as it should be.

One or the other, Bill and Hill can't have both.

Too many conflicts of interest.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
15. I don't believe saving folks from AIDs and preventing kids from pooping themselves to death
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:43 PM
Apr 2015

I don't believe saving folks from AIDs and preventing kids in underdeveloped nations from pooping themselves to death and Hillary being a great president are mutually exclusive.




And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
22. "Hillary being a great president" is impossible, so the argument is moot.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:10 PM
Apr 2015

Add to that, she's unelectable.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
23. That's a theory in search of reality.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:12 PM
Apr 2015
"Hillary being a great president" is impossible, so the argument is moot.
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Add to that, she's unelectable
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
24. She might win the primary, but she'll lose the General Election. Too risky.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:29 PM
Apr 2015

A trainwreck in slow motion.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
25. Please see Post 23
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:38 PM
Apr 2015

This is what I don't get from these silly debates...Nobody is preventing anybody from running... I believe nobody is running for the same reason I wouldn't walk up on Bautista and slap him.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
27. Nobody will run for the same reason I wouldn't walk up on Floyd Mayweather and slap him....
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:55 PM
Apr 2015

Not so much for what Floyd would do to me but what his bodyguards would.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
38. Nobody will run? I think you are wrong.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 11:57 PM
Apr 2015

The primary will be contested. And Hillary is not assured a victory, see 2008.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. Conflict of interest can exist in different forms. I could say you are pushing for other
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:34 PM
Apr 2015

candidates to run in the primary and then if you make statements as you have in this post and ergo you have a conflict of interest. I know, many people who have friends of the Clintons and have passed away, ergo the crap came out they must be responsible for the deaths or just knowing the Clintons will cause someone to die.

Facts are still facts, this speculation of attempting to connect her job as SOS and the foundation does not equate with fraud, etc

Hillary served Obama well in backing him for president, served as SOS, and I disagree with you on selecting Hillary as SOS. She does her job very well.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
31. If I can just make this Rec to the Power of a Million!.. Absolutely Spot On NYC SKP
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 09:31 PM
Apr 2015

I don't know how to keyboard that formula.. wish I did..

It's taken me all week to get to the crux of this story. The reason I've been avoiding reading this story in part is because it apparently comes from a right winger, and in part because A) I've always been highly suspicious of Clinton's foundation, and B) because when I learned a few years ago that Chelsea was involved managing a Hedge Fund outfit, in the run up to the crash, I think at that point I knew none of them could be trusted.. (I didn't think about the implications for the State Dept however) but today I finally stumbled across details of this story from other sources. I'm surprised to find myself even more stunned.. There's just no words wrt to the depth of depravity and corruption, right up there with Dick Cheney et al.

Sheesh!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
34. Thanks. It was all rolling in around in my head and then finally gelled. One or the other not both
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 09:45 PM
Apr 2015

They are just too, well, ambitious.

Chelsea Clinton: $600,000 salary for being a "news correspondent"?

What did NBC News’s Chelsea Clinton do for her $600,000 salary?

NBC News refers to Clinton as a “special correspondent,” a title best interpreted literally. What unspecial correspondent, after all, gets paid more than a half-mil to do puff stories and travel to Nairobi to check in on elephants?

At the time of Chelsea Clinton’s accession to NBC News, the New York Times cited a “person close” to her as saying this:

The person also said that Ms. Clinton had said she intended to donate most of the money she earned from NBC to the Clinton Foundation and the George Washington University Hospital in the name of her grandmother, who died this month.

When asked if she’d indeed made such contributions, Kamyl Bazbaz, a spokesperson for Chelsea Clinton, responded, “With regards to your question, Chelsea has given generously to causes and organizations she cares about (including The George Washington University Hospital and the Clinton Foundation).”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/06/13/what-did-nbc-newss-chelsea-clinton-do-for-her-600000-salary/




customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
35. I'm with you
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 10:46 PM
Apr 2015

The whole thing stinks to high heaven, and I think we've just seen the tip of the iceberg. The Clintons and President Obama had their own private agreement that she wouldn't let the foundation interfere or even appear to affect the office of Secretary of State.

At some point, we may come across something where blame can be laid on either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. It will be interesting to see which way fingers point.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
37. My money would be on Barack coming out ahead.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 11:57 PM
Apr 2015

He covered his ass by having asked for reports, and she didn't report.

What's more, she doesn't have an email trail to defend herself.

And if she tries to sully his legacy I'll be he's got more dirt he could dig up than all their millions would ever be able to dig through.

One big hot mess, is what this is.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
39. Yep
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:17 AM
Apr 2015

She can't possibly alienate any part of the base that got him elected President the last couple of times, and I doubt that some segments of that base are not terribly enthusiastic about her even without a confrontation.

The very best thing that she could do is get ALL of it out in a document dump over a holiday weekend as soon as possible (Memorial Day is coming up soon) and let it become "old news" by the time of the primaries and caucuses. The mushy middle has a really short memory when it comes to politics, that's why they're the swing vote.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
36. $600, 0000 Salary for being a Rookie reporter. Just freaking beyond amazing, isn't it?
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 11:52 PM
Apr 2015

again no words. That guy she married, wasn't he with the hedge fund group that Chelsea was working for before this gig at NBC? I can't remember the name of it right now, and don't have the leisure time to research but maybe later.

What was the point of her going to med school anyway? Probably don't have to wonder if she bought her a degree in a field she wasn't really interested in actually practicing. But I could see the Big Pharm, and Medical Business prospects/investments that degree might be useful for. whatever. that family is as bad the bushes as far as I'm concerned.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
32. Yeah, Way back in 2003, right? Judith Miller.. WMD's, Tom Friedman and everythin wrt to Baby Yahoo.
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 09:37 PM
Apr 2015

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
10. "On his website" versus "book"
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:39 PM
Apr 2015

This gets curiouser and curiouser...

But it was the perfect hit job...He knew he would be dismissed a a right wing crank so he cleverly enlisted the main stream media to follow his leads to distract from the fact he worked for George Bush and Sarah Palin, is a member of the Hoover Institute,and shared negative information about Sec of State Clinton with Rand Paul and Marco Rubio.

karynnj

(59,506 posts)
13. With absolutely no knowledge, I would not think it unlikely
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:43 PM
Apr 2015

It would be strange if he now doesn't, because it would be an easy hit on his credibility. (easier to explain than to argue why the "research" in the insider trading book was garbage or (when it comes out and if it is) why the Clinton allegations are garbage. On this, he either is writing a book or he is not.

Remember, he was part of Sarah Palin's "posse". Jebb Bush is likely considered by most of the right to be as centrist as the Republicans get.

If you considered a (non existing) analogue from the left, I could see someone on the far left (common dreams, counterpunch ???) writing BOTH an anti (any Republican) book and an anti Clinton one -- as NEITHER are what they want. (If you doubt this, look at how those sources have spoken of any of the last several Democratic nominees or HRC. )

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
20. "it would be an easy hit on his credibility"
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 12:59 PM
Apr 2015

IF it's the intention of the NYT's and Washington Post (I don't consider Fox "News" a news source in the least) to be fair on this, then yes, we should expect them to expose this Sarah Palin wordsmith to take a hit in the credibility department...but dollars to donuts that's not going to happen without pressure from progressive sites.

It is the incorporated media task to ensure - through clever hit pieces against any Democrat - to install a Republican in the White House. Corporations demand it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
30. More
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 09:13 PM
Apr 2015

Journalists have suggested that conservative author Peter Schweizer's forthcoming book attacking Hillary Clinton is more credible because he will follow it up with a similar book examining Jeb Bush. But according to his publisher, no such book is in the works: Schweizer's reporting on Bush will be published on the website of his non-profit organization.

Over the past few days numerous media outlets have begun reporting on allegations Schweizer makes in his forthcoming book Clinton Cash about allegedly unethical ties between the Clinton Foundation and actions Hillary Clinton purportedly made as secretary of state. Critics -- including Media Matters -- have noted that Schweizer is a Republican activist and strategist with a history of reporting errors.

Pushing back against this narrative, Bloomberg Politics reported on April 23 that in contrast to the "left-wing clamor that Schweizer is simply out to get Hillary Clinton," "Schweizer is working on a similar investigation of Jeb Bush's finances that he expects to publish this summer."

Picking up the story, Politico reported that Schweizer "is reportedly working on another book that he expects to release in the summer. Only this time, he'll be writing about Jeb Bush." CNN likewise reported that the "book on Bush... would be published this summer."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/04/24/schweizers-publisher-there-is-no-forthcoming-bo/203416

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