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Riots are what happen when people lose hope (Original Post) phantom power Apr 2015 OP
People who feel they are not being acknowledged will turn on the society which ignores them. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #1
Next time they should try voting jamzrockz Apr 2015 #2
so are you saying it's ok for unarmed males to be murdered by police? HipChick Apr 2015 #4
How brave of you to respond directly to someone who would say such vile garbage NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #8
Looters are not victims. phil89 Apr 2015 #11
Yup. His journal entries tell me enough about what's important to him. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #12
I am saying jamzrockz Apr 2015 #18
I think it's possible to believe BOTH that the police kill too many black people, AND Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #28
The cops destroyed the community. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #6
And it started WAY before this as it did in all cities and towns everywhere in America NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #10
got that right Dream Girl Apr 2015 #27
When you sever the spine of an unarmed man causing his death.... Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #9
Actually, no. phil89 Apr 2015 #13
Wrong Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #14
+1,000 malaise Apr 2015 #22
Do you see a difference between ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #19
Obviously it's all about the $$$, don'tcha know! bettyellen Apr 2015 #21
Ahhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #24
our boats will ri$e again my friend! Just give these dudes a few generations to rehire each other bettyellen Apr 2015 #25
voting. LOL. KG Apr 2015 #17
People just dont jamzrockz Apr 2015 #20
Have you ever been to Baltimore? justiceischeap Apr 2015 #23
"What happens to a dream deferred..." Yes, add lost middle class jobs, poverty, & things go south peacebird Apr 2015 #3
Well, lets face it, some of them just want something for free! nt Logical Apr 2015 #5
Umm looting is part of riots...are you really that worried about people getting "free stuff" Dream Girl Apr 2015 #29
Bullshit..... Logical Apr 2015 #30
That dog whistle is getting kinda stale. GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #31
You drunk? WTF does that mean? nt Logical Apr 2015 #34
At the same time there's a kind of double-standard at play. Igel Apr 2015 #37
It is one of the eternal lessons of history hifiguy Apr 2015 #7
My brother was in Los Angeles in 1992. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #15
Actually, I'd say ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #36
Yes Solly Mack Apr 2015 #38
Best post all day. nt MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #26
And what white kids do after a basketball game nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #32
What happens to a dream deferred? gollygee Apr 2015 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #35
Riots are what happen when people don't give a fuck XemaSab Apr 2015 #39
 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
2. Next time they should try voting
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:27 PM
Apr 2015

Now they've destroyed their community, they are in a much shitter situation now. And they really have nobody to blame but themselves

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
8. How brave of you to respond directly to someone who would say such vile garbage
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:31 PM
Apr 2015

I dont want to be kicked out of here so I better not respond directly to someone who says the victims are to blame

I might say something real bad

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
18. I am saying
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:42 PM
Apr 2015

its much easier to organize an election than organize a riot. This riot was well coordinated from social media. With this type of turn out, no candidate they support can lose an election. Talking about local elections now

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
28. I think it's possible to believe BOTH that the police kill too many black people, AND
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:01 PM
Apr 2015

that burning down businesses is not the best way of addressing this.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
10. And it started WAY before this as it did in all cities and towns everywhere in America
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:32 PM
Apr 2015

You see the AfAm community has patience like James Bond has girlfriends.

Endless

maybe it is running out, though

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
27. got that right
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:59 PM
Apr 2015

I am astounded that this hasn't happened before now. Endless patience. There comes a point when marches and peaceful protests don't cut it.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. When you sever the spine of an unarmed man causing his death....
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:32 PM
Apr 2015

you've destroyed the community.

The police are the ones destroying the community.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
25. our boats will ri$e again my friend! Just give these dudes a few generations to rehire each other
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:56 PM
Apr 2015

Into all available good jobs and rebuild their wealth, get some equilibrium so they're feeling steady being back on top.
Then, and only then, will your life matter.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
20. People just dont
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:46 PM
Apr 2015

know how easy it is to change things locally. Most of the time, its not even about money. If you want to see change start by voting in local election.

Keep laughing

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
23. Have you ever been to Baltimore?
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:50 PM
Apr 2015

Baltimore city has more than 16,000 empty homes. A vote is not going to fix that. Jobs may fix it but voting certainly isn't the answer at this point in Bmore--all the voting in the world is not going to bring jobs and food to the tables of the people in that city.

Here's a good idea of what's been going on in Baltimore.

http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/police-settlements/

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
3. "What happens to a dream deferred..." Yes, add lost middle class jobs, poverty, & things go south
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:28 PM
Apr 2015

Pretty fast...

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
29. Umm looting is part of riots...are you really that worried about people getting "free stuff"
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:02 PM
Apr 2015

Nice set of priorities, you got there.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
30. Bullshit.....
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:21 PM
Apr 2015

they are thiefs. The fucking Mayor called them Thugs. Since you know more than the mayor call her and discuss it with her.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
37. At the same time there's a kind of double-standard at play.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 10:19 PM
Apr 2015

If there's a peaceful protest, then the first reaction is to try to say any violence is a set-up. False flag. We must excuse "our own" and make the Other as bad as possible. That's how groups work.

The second reaction is to say that it's not really the protesters doing it, but troublemakers or outsiders. Not false-flag, but not "real protesters." They're either hate-filled or greedy or just out to make trouble for the heck of it. Acolytes of Eris, so to speak.

Only when it gets to the point that it's clear that a contingent of those who must be "legitimate protesters"--those that we want to think are protesters, in other words--are doing the violence and destruction and theft does it suddenly become a virtuous act.

Most of the protesters are peaceful. Why those who turn violent as part of a larger group must all be virtuous in their hate and violence is beyond me. It makes sense that some are angry and can't control their rage--not a good thing, to be sure, but human. It makes sense to me that some just want to revel in violence and hate--also a human thing. It makes sense to me that there are those who just want free stuff and a chance to grab it--it's what more than a few did in LA in '92, why should we assume that those in Baltimore in '15 are all pure of heart and 100% virtuous? Because, again, this is what humans do.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
15. My brother was in Los Angeles in 1992.
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:39 PM
Apr 2015

The level of despair that year reached a breaking point after the cops who beat Rodney King were found not guilty.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
16. Actually, I'd say ...
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 07:42 PM
Apr 2015

Riots are what happen when people lose faith ... riots are a final expression of hope.

Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #16)

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
33. What happens to a dream deferred?
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 09:22 PM
Apr 2015

What happens to a dream deferred?

Does it dry up
like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore—
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over—
like a syrupy sweet?

Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.

Or does it explode?


(Langston Hughes)

Response to phantom power (Original post)

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