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Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
Sun May 3, 2015, 02:16 PM May 2015

Hillary and Liberals: Here’s the Deal

by Michael Tomasky

You don’t have to say you love her, because the election isn’t even directly about her. It’s about finally undoing the Reagan revolution.

In the last few days, I’ve heard from a couple of relatives who have, or know of friends who have, come down with a case of Hillary Anxiety. Having covered Clinton’s 2000 Senate race closely and spoken at the time with many New York women among whom the malady was first diagnosed, I know the symptoms well.

They like her, generally speaking, and admire her (I should note that Hillary Anxiety is not limited to women by any means, although it is perhaps more sharply felt by them than by men). They want to see her succeed. They yearn for her to slay the beasts of sexism and gender-role definitions that she has taken it upon herself to battle. Hillary Anxiety, in these respects, is very different from Hillary Distrust or Contempt, which is the more commonly found inflammation among journalists and others inside the Beltway. The Hillary-Anxious are basically on her side.

But those symptoms: they’re queasy, these folks. The years of charges (valid or not) about corruption, the endless debates about how polarizing she is…it leaves some people feeling exhausted. Before the race has even started, really! Oh, Lord. I like Hillary and want her to be president, but am I really ready to slog through all this…crap again?,,,,



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/02/hillary-and-liberals-here-s-the-deal.html
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Hillary and Liberals: Here’s the Deal (Original Post) Cryptoad May 2015 OP
Uh, Hilary is part of the Reagan Revolution daredtowork May 2015 #1
I'm dreading Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz being President. FarPoint May 2015 #2
I'm dreading it, too daredtowork May 2015 #6
Fail, you put the cart ahead of the horse WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2015 #9
Maybe you need to update your news on Hillary. Thinkingabout May 2015 #5
Oh right - she "changes her mind about stuff". nt daredtowork May 2015 #8
Great post Basic LA May 2015 #3
How about looking at a candidate for the qualifications? We have been running the male only Thinkingabout May 2015 #4
" The years of charges..." rock May 2015 #7
Clinton is not Reagan although a lot onecaliberal May 2015 #10
it's a very good piece cali May 2015 #11

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
1. Uh, Hilary is part of the Reagan Revolution
Sun May 3, 2015, 02:20 PM
May 2015

Welfare Reform as We Know It?
Taking a hard line against crime - which put a generation of black men in prison - instead of addressing the causing.
Triangulation to a phony "center" invented by Wall Street

Sound familiar? Reagan took the GOP "left" - i.e. toward the "center" in some ways.

The Clintons are part of The Reagan Revolution.

That's why I'm dreading Hilary being the nominee even though I'd like to vote for a female President.

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
6. I'm dreading it, too
Sun May 3, 2015, 02:32 PM
May 2015

and I have a feeling that's where it's going to go because Hilary soaked up too many of the resources too early on, more or less intimidating anyone else from even trying. I have a feeling Bernie finally stepped up just because no one else was in a position to make a challenge.

While all the Hillary supporters are crying "what about the Supremes???" now - it won't make a difference if Hillary can't win the general election. I doubt she can.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
9. Fail, you put the cart ahead of the horse
Sun May 3, 2015, 02:37 PM
May 2015

I'm sure you've done it before and will continue to do it. That's what her supporters do.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. How about looking at a candidate for the qualifications? We have been running the male only
Sun May 3, 2015, 02:29 PM
May 2015

for many years, women was exempt from running, in fact women was exempt from voting.

rock

(13,218 posts)
7. " The years of charges..."
Sun May 3, 2015, 02:34 PM
May 2015

Which lead to nothing. Many (Republicans in particular) have flaunted the laws right in our faces and no charges have happened. I say the more slanders are slung at the Clintons and found empty the more we can trust that there are none of any merit. You should be feeling surer and stronger not exhausted.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
10. Clinton is not Reagan although a lot
Sun May 3, 2015, 02:47 PM
May 2015

Of their policy is frighteningly similar. The press spreading lies and bullshit about her makes me support her more not less.
Clinton is not my first choice but I will definitely vote for the Democratic nominee whomever that turns out to be.
Maybe we should finally make the press understand that their lies and bullshit will have zero effect on our support for her or any candidate for that matter. They are a large part of the problem.

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