Lost one of our most productive and enthusiastic member of the Dem Women yesterday.

[efhmc]

She has always been a progressive feminist, yet yesterday she quit because of Pres. Obama's stance on marriage equality. I was astonished. Her action really hurt me as we are aligned on so many issues in this very right wing town and she was always an ally. As a Democrat, I support her right to her decision but boy does it hurt.

[rurallib]

1. let's hope she evolves and comes back

[efhmc]

4. Sent her a long e-mail about the difference between marriage in the church

and with the state. Saying that when I married, I signed 2 documents; one from the state, which really meant I was married legally, and the document from my church, which really means nothing except for those who are members of my church. Told her I loved and respected her but am now and will always be totally astounded. I do not see how anyone who is so passionate about women's rights can't see this as a civil rights issue.

[DearAbby]

2. Sorry for your loss

We are on the right side of history, if that helps. This is the right thing to do.

[efhmc]

5. I am good with that. You just can't imagine how out of the blue her

stand was to me and to the other members of our group.

[redwitch]

3. Separating the wheat from the chaff

I can't help but think someone who doesn't see gay rights as basic human rights is missing a really, really important part of what it means to be a Democrat. I am sorry for your loss though, don't mean to be flippant but I feel fierce about this subject.

[efhmc]

7. This is a person who has a brother who is a lawyer who has defended for free

activists who have been jailed for protesting many anti-war issues, etc. Rightly, she is very proud of him.

[redwitch]

12. Maybe she will come around.

I hope she does.

[MADem]

6. How can she be a "progressive feminist" with such a neanderthal view?

I mean, really--letting people marry whosoever they please has no effect on HER marriage--unless her husband is gay and she fears he will leave her for someone more compatible?

I am not particularly interested in the details of peoples' private lives--if people want to share, great, if not, fine, too. Why should it matter to this woman who people choose to care about? It's not her business. Why is she sticking her beak in, and getting all upset about an issue not of her concern? And why is she angry that the President spoke out in favor of letting people be what they are?

Very strange. That woman is not terribly progressive nor is she a feminist, I'm afraid. She's more like a Blue Dog Dem.

[efhmc]

8. No, she is a feminist. Believe me I know a passionate feminist when I meet one.

That is why I am so absolutely floored by her response for religious reasons.

[MADem]

10. I dunno. I mean, it's like saying someone is a "devout Catholic" while they pick up their birth

control prescription on their way home from the abortion clinic.

Her attitude, sorry to say, is incompatible with feminism -- at least the feminists I've known. Feminists are all about self-actualization for all humans, not just the "not gay" ones.

I couldn't regard anyone who got bent out of shape about gay people, or anyone supporting gay people's right to be who they are, as a genuine feminist. I'd say that type of person was probably more of a "social" and faux feminist. She liked the company, but she can't walk the walk or talk the talk.

[Pisces]

9. Doesn't sound too progressive to me.

[efhmc]

11. Really don't want to argue the fact. I have been with and talked with her and

planned events with her for several years, without ever seeing anything but a progressive, can do, let's get Dems elected attitude.That is why this was such a bolt out of the blue for me. I am still just so upset and puzzled.