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babylonsister

(171,092 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:47 PM Jun 2015

Dick Cheney: the man who just won’t go away


Former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney talks about his wife Lynne Cheney's book "James Madison: A Life Reconsidered" on May 12, 2014 in Washington, DC.
Win McNamee/Getty
Posted with permission and horror. Now I need a shower.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/dick-cheney-the-man-who-just-wont-go-away

Dick Cheney: the man who just won’t go away
06/02/15 08:00 AM—Updated 06/02/15 08:06 AM
By Steve Benen


If you’re convinced that former Vice President Dick Cheney’s biggest problem is that he’s a shrinking violet, far too shy to express himself, don’t worry. The Wall Street Journal reports this week that Cheney is finally ready to break out of his shell.

Few people noticed the 74-year-old in the tan Stetson at a high-school rodeo here {in Casper, Wyoming}. Dick Cheney was happy to blend in.

That is about to change. The former vice president is looking to make a splash on the national stage with a new book to be published in September and a group he and his daughter Liz launched to advance their views.

The highly flattering WSJ report sketches out an ambitious game plan for Cheney, in which the failed former V.P. intends to influence the 2016 presidential race, shape the debate over nuclear diplomacy with Iran, and complain incessantly about President Obama.

He’s also apparently eager to share words of wisdom like these: “As we got further from 9/11, there was a tendency for a lot of people to say, ‘Let somebody else do it, we’ve done our share.’ Well, that makes no sense at all, if 19 guys with airline tickets and box cutters can take down the World Trade Center and Pentagon.”


I’ve read that quote several times, trying to make sense of it. Unless there was an editing error and whole sentences were accidentally removed, it seems like an obvious non-sequitur.

Regardless, I don’t begrudge Cheney’s desire to “get back in the fray” – he’s a private citizen and he can engage in the political process as much as he wishes – but there are two angles to this that shouldn’t go overlooked.

The first is that he most certainly has already been in the fray. Indeed, he never left – Cheney began publicly condemning President Obama for the speed with which he was cleaning up Cheney’s messes literally just weeks after the shift in power in 2009.

Ever since, Cheney has publicly questioned the president’s patriotism, positioned himself as a key figure on the GOP fundraising circuit, become a policy adviser to congressional Republicans, and repeatedly defended his failed policies and agenda.

The failed former V.P. “is looking to make a splash”? I was under the impression that he already made the splash and we’re still struggling to deal with the wake.

And then there’s the unnerving fact that when it comes to the presidential campaign, Cheney has already largely succeeded in helping push his party to the far-right. Salon’s Simon Maloy explained yesterday:

“We thought, looking forward to 2016, it was very important to make sure those issues were front and center in the campaign,” Cheney told the Journal.

If that’s the goal, well then … Mission Accomplished, I guess. A quick glance at the stump speeches from Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Rick Perry, and other 2016 contenders reveals an already dogged embrace of hawkish foreign policy positions. They all talk about bloating the defense budget to maintain a “strong military,” they root the country’s foreign policy in American exceptionalism, they promise to abandon diplomacy with Iran and be more aggressive toward terrorists in Iraq – all the Cheney must-haves for a foreign policy debate…. What, exactly, is Cheney bringing to the table that isn’t already there?


Nothing, really. If there was a fight for control of the Republican Party’s direction on matters of national security, neocons won quite a while ago.

So why is Cheney bothering? One can only speculate. Maybe he’s bored. Perhaps he sees value in a vanity exercise. Maybe he realizes that much of the nation still sees him as a radical failure and he hopes a new book and revamped political operation can add some elusive luster to his ugly legacy.
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Dick Cheney: the man who just won’t go away (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2015 OP
Yecch. Dog Breathe. C_U_L8R Jun 2015 #1
Here is a clip from his brother's wedding day seveneyes Jun 2015 #2
That's the problem with the undead: hifiguy Jun 2015 #3
I know. Lewis Black is right. Initech Jun 2015 #6
If this creature couldn't get more vile, I learned something new about him Cleita Jun 2015 #4
Dick Cheney gets my vote for the single worst human being alive. Initech Jun 2015 #5
For many years madamesilverspurs Jun 2015 #7
... napkinz Jun 2015 #8
Obama handed Cheney's ass to him Major Nikon Jun 2015 #9
Ha! He called it. nt babylonsister Jun 2015 #11
he's a fucking cockroach. spanone Jun 2015 #10
Man? That would mean he is of the human species. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #12
I really do think with a sorefeet Jun 2015 #13
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
3. That's the problem with the undead:
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:57 PM
Jun 2015

the fuckers live forever. He'd look so good in the dock at the Hague.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
6. I know. Lewis Black is right.
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 08:09 PM
Jun 2015

He said good people die young and pricks live forever. I have seen this first hand very recently, and it's made me question this. Especially given that Dick Cheney still walks among us.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. If this creature couldn't get more vile, I learned something new about him
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 08:00 PM
Jun 2015

today. Remember the DC madam who allegedly committed suicide by hanging herself in a shed because she didn't want to go to prison? Well it seems one name in her client list among Republican Washington elites was Dick Cheney. Now I know one incident doesn't make it that suspicious. But it strikes me odd the number of suicides and fatal accidents that seem to circle in the orbit of himself and his associates. Whatever did happen to that buddy of his that he shot in the face?

madamesilverspurs

(15,809 posts)
7. For many years
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jun 2015

the 'aroma' of our town was associated with the surrounding cattle feedlots. Since those operations have been relocated way to the east, we have come to realize that the stench derives from the misfortune of living downwind from the Cheney.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. Obama handed Cheney's ass to him
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 08:39 PM
Jun 2015
Former Vice President Dick Cheney couldn’t make the dinner, Obama joked, because he was writing his memoir, “How to Shoot Friends and Interrogate People.”

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
13. I really do think with a
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:08 PM
Jun 2015

Bernie Sanders and Loretta Lynch, Dick Cheney could be indicted for torture. Along with the rest of the crew. I don't think they have gotten totally away with it yet. Dick might regret that new heart keeping him alive in that prison cell for 10, 20 or 30 years.

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