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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:09 PM Jun 2015

Rachel Doziel's lies: Irrelevant and harmless or malicious and damaging?

She claimed an AA gentleman she once worked with was her father.

She claimed her adopted AA brother is her son

She claims her experience growing up as female poc makes her an expert on the subject

She claimed she was sent racist threats through the mail but police have said that there were no post marks and that whoever did it had a key to her p.o. box. Police have ruled out all postal employees.

She has filed several dozen police complaints about racial harassment and attacks. Price have not been able to verify any of them.

She claimed she lived in South Africa. Her parents did. They say she never visited them, let alone lived there.

She claims that as a child she had to hunt her own food with a bow and arrow.

She claimed she was letting her hair grow out naturally, meaning in an afro.

She claimed her parents whipped her with a "baboon whip" based on her dark complexion. Pictures of her as a kid show she was a very fair blond.

She lied about being the director of a human rights org


http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_385adfeb-76f3-5050-98b4-d4bf021c423f.html?mode=jqm

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cali

(114,904 posts)
4. I both feel sorry for her and feel that by coopting a life experience she never had,
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jun 2015

that she's behaved reprehensibly.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
5. I think she needs therapy. Yesterday.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:16 PM
Jun 2015

Seven years ago. The lies about the beatings and shit really bug me. Why make so much shit up? She needs to reflect.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,860 posts)
3. I am wondering whether she might be mentally ill.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:13 PM
Jun 2015

Since her claims are so easily disproved, it doesn't seem like a rational person would make them at all.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
7. Harmless inventor of untrue stories.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 07:21 PM
Jun 2015

I had a friend like her, who changed her ethnicity even to where she was born and the accent with the company she was keeping at the time. She lied herself into many good jobs and got fired when she couldn't do them. But she never really lied about other people or ever said bad things about them, even the ones who had done her wrong. For that I gave her a pass. She was not a vicious liar and mostly hurt herself with her stories. It's too bad that talent for story telling wasn't channeled into a career as a writer or actress, but her mother was an alcoholic so she didn't get the guidance.

I think this woman is doing some good with her life and I think a good therapist will help her deal with her fantasy life.

hunter

(38,328 posts)
17. I suspect her parents are too...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 11:40 PM
Jun 2015

Maybe she is black in some way.



My first speculation is similar to yours.

My own heritage is uncertain. In nineteenth century wild west U.S.A. if you burned your bridges and identity behind you, you could move on to another place and create a new identity.

One of my grandfather's father was not his father, a family secret passed down to the next matriarch. His biological father was a prominent Mormon. His father, on official documents, and still in the Mormon databases, was an immigrant from Denmark.

Our strongly matriarchal family's religion on both sides was not-Mormon, and It still is. One of my biological ancestors was a mail-order bride from Scandinavia to Salt Lake City but she didn't like sharing a husband so she ran away with a U.S. Government surveyor. I don't think the Mormons have ever forgiven us for that. Their young nicely dressed elders riding bicycles never knock on our doors. They know where we live. If we wanted to be Mormon we'd have to pay up with interest for the runaway bride. They know we won't, and maybe they are a little afraid of a few true stories.

My mom's family are pacifists because, like myself, they have to be. The berserker genes are strong in us.

One of my great grandfathers, the one of my surname, is a mystery. Some of the family sticks faithfully to his fabricated genealogy, and have even "returned" to the Protestant religion he claimed when they resettled in places with churches. He stayed far away from any places with churches. But it's pretty clear to me this guy's Catholic family had escaped to America just ahead of starvation and/or the English hangman. The Irish were not getting the good jobs, so magically, maybe his dad, become a Protestant mining engineer with a Scots accent, and he got away with it because he could do the math. Maybe he found a trigonometry book and it resonated with him.

Like a self-educated Jewish heritage Abraham Lincoln and the law.

When my crazy grandma passed away she'd left some very specific instructions. The funeral director asked, "She's Jewish?" Not so far as my mom had ever heard. But my grandma was buried quickly in a plain wooden box with a Star of David on it, and I couldn't drop everything and fly out in time to be there when they buried her.

My wife has documented Catholic Scots and Irish ancestors who left the British Isles when things got too hot for them there, and then later left the U.S.A. for Canada and Mexico when things got too hot for them here, as did her Native U.S. American ancestors. They later returned as "immigrants," some of them having served in World War II, fighting in Europe. My wife has an uncle buried at Arlington, killed in action in the last days of the war, and another close relative who flew for the Royal Air Force via Canada.

I've always marveled at the fluidity of names in my family. It's perfectly okay for anyone of any age to go by any name they choose. Three year olds can declare new names, and change them when they are four. I just go by Hunter here and in most public places. It's one of the names my parents gave me and I'm okay with that.

I have two siblings with Hollywood screen credits. As a weird autistic kid I flunked out of grandma's dreams for us. My siblings don't go by those names now in their post Hollywood "real life." Nor do they go by their childhood names.

I can't condemn anyone for being the person they want to be, even if they are a little crazy.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
12. I am not certain how I would exactly characterize her lies but I am pretty certain
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:02 PM
Jun 2015

they are NOT irrelevant and harmless. I am also having a difficult time seeing transgender being the same as "transracial". Perhaps i am wrong and need schooling on that issue. This is all new to me!

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
14. She's also done a lot of good work for the NAACP.
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jun 2015

I don't have the expertise to judge her mental stability but I'd swap her out for a Clarence Thomas any day. It may all be crazy talk but she walks the walk.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
15. I don't know cali, but I'm really afraid that her whole phony schtick...
Fri Jun 12, 2015, 08:36 PM
Jun 2015

may end up to be very damaging to the cause of bringing awareness and fighting racism up here in an area that is literally swarming with aryan agitators, closet klan kreeps, and flat-out bigoted ignoramuses.

That's something that makes me wonder who exactly it was that made the move to investigate the woman's background and contact her family, in the first place.

The report on all of the false harassment complaints that she filed is particularly disturbing, simply because there's no lack of such hateful attacks on Blacks and other minorities over in the area where she's been working.

I see that the NAACP has issued a statement in her support:

http://www.naacp.org/press/entry/naacp-statement-on-rachel-dolezal

NAACP Statement on Rachel Dolezal June 12, 2015

Baltimore, MD – For 106 years, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People has held a long and proud tradition of receiving support from people of all faiths, races, colors and creeds. NAACP Spokane Washington Branch President Rachel Dolezal is enduring a legal issue with her family, and we respect her privacy in this matter. One’s racial identity is not a qualifying criteria or disqualifying standard for NAACP leadership. The NAACP Alaska-Oregon-Washington State Conference stands behind Ms. Dolezal’s advocacy record. In every corner of this country, the NAACP remains committed to securing political, educational, and economic justice for all people, and we encourage Americans of all stripes to become members and serve as leaders in our organization.

Hate language sent through mail and social media along with credible threats continue to be a serious issue for our units in the Pacific Northwest and across the nation. We take all threats seriously and encourage the FBI and the Department of Justice to fully investigate each occurrence.


I just cannot imagine what she must have been thinking when she began her charade. What made her do such a thing?
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