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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 04:52 PM Jun 2015

All Hail Ginsburg the Great: Justice Ginsburg Deals a Blow to Partisan Gerrymandering

Supreme Court conservatives attack RBG's opinion as "outrageously wrong."


Then manifestly, she's RIGHT.



In a victory for opponents of partisan gerrymandering, the Supreme Court on Monday upheld the use of an independent commission to draw Arizona's congressional districts. Writing for a narrow majority in the 5-4 ruling, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg touted the importance of direct democracy and making sure the power of the people is not hijacked by its elected representatives.

"The people of Arizona turned to the initiative to curb the practice of gerrymandering," Ginsburg wrote. "In so acting, Arizona voters sought to restore 'the core principle of republican government,' namely, 'that the voters should choose their representatives, not the other way around.'" Ginsburg's opinion was joined by the three other liberal-leaning justices and Justice Anthony Kennedy.

In his dissent, Roberts accused the majority of performing a "magic trick" with the wording of the Constitution. His dissent begins with an account of Arizona's passage of the Seventeenth Amendment to the Constitution, providing for the direct election of US senators. "What chumps!" the chief wrote. "Didn’t they realize that all they had to do was interpret the constitutional term 'the Legislature' to mean 'the people'? The Court today performs just such a magic trick with the Elections Clause."
...

"By insulating redistricting decisions from direct partisan influence, commissions like Arizona’s offer a crucial first step toward breaking the cycle of partisanship and dysfunction perpetuated by legislative gerrymandering. The States’ efforts to use such commissions to tackle one of America’s most intractable political problems have great potential and are fully consistent with the States’ traditional role as laboratories of democracy." The Supreme Court agreed.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/06/supreme-court-redistricting-case-arizona

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And RBG strikes another blow for democracy. I hope they erect a statue in her honor at her alma mater.

JUDICIAL GIANT!
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All Hail Ginsburg the Great: Justice Ginsburg Deals a Blow to Partisan Gerrymandering (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 OP
Isn't he part of the gang that magically decided corporations are people? MoonRiver Jun 2015 #1
Justice Ginsburg is a woman. n/t whathehell Jun 2015 #2
I think Moon River is referring to Roberts and his own "magic trick". Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #6
Okay, I didn't realize that. whathehell Jun 2015 #35
Presto, change-o. Now it's a corporation, now it's a PERSON! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #3
But when they decided today on the death penalty, presto, corporations are NOT people there! cascadiance Jun 2015 #10
Love it! JDPriestly Jun 2015 #13
Oh, snap! Hoist on their own petard... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #14
To quote Peter Cook in Bedazzled, hifiguy Jun 2015 #26
Citizens United was just the latest - The notion that corporations are people LiberalElite Jun 2015 #4
Corporate personhood has GOT to go. hifiguy Jun 2015 #9
Yep! Who made ex railroad exec Bancroft Davis the god to decide that corporations are people! cascadiance Jun 2015 #11
Need to update that list to include more recent Hobby Lobby and McCutcheon cases cascadiance Jun 2015 #16
So true. Thanks. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #12
So true. Thanks. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #20
That issue was decided long ago. former9thward Jun 2015 #23
Base on a misreading of the law fasttense Jun 2015 #34
she is noted online with great respect as the Notorious RBG :D roguevalley Jun 2015 #24
Roberts is confused... Spazito Jun 2015 #5
In Japan people can be designated as hifiguy Jun 2015 #7
A living, breathing legend... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #8
je adore Madame Ginsberg, thank you for agreeing. saidsimplesimon Jun 2015 #15
Moi aussi. Elle est formidable ! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #18
Hillary may talk of what she may wish to do DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #17
We never hear anything of her health issues. I hope that's a good omen... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #19
Kudos to Justice Ginsburg Uncle Joe Jun 2015 #21
... Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #22
The Notorious RBG rocks DebbieCDC Jun 2015 #25
K&R Scuba Jun 2015 #27
Notorious RBG ROCKS Novara Jun 2015 #28
A very big victory. More important than it seems. marble falls Jun 2015 #29
Yes, far-reaching in its implications. Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #30
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Orrex Jun 2015 #31
I would give up 5 years of my life if they could be given to her for additional time on the bench. stevenleser Jun 2015 #32
May she live long and prosper! Surya Gayatri Jun 2015 #33
Ruth is the one Liberalagogo Jun 2015 #36
Roberts: Corporations are people bucolic_frolic Jun 2015 #37
Here in California, as I remember ... nikto Jun 2015 #38

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
1. Isn't he part of the gang that magically decided corporations are people?
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 04:56 PM
Jun 2015

Now, that was a magic trick if I ever saw one!

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
4. Citizens United was just the latest - The notion that corporations are people
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 05:06 PM
Jun 2015

has been developing for a long time - pls. see the list of decisions going back to the 1800's in this link (scroll down).

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate-personhood/


 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. Corporate personhood has GOT to go.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 05:51 PM
Jun 2015

Nothing should be allowed to exist in theoretical immortality, particularly when it is unaccountable to the people.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
16. Need to update that list to include more recent Hobby Lobby and McCutcheon cases
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:08 PM
Jun 2015

that are also part of the "corporate personhood" infestation too!

former9thward

(31,961 posts)
23. That issue was decided long ago.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:53 PM
Jun 2015
Citizens United gave corporations political first amendment rights but it did not give them personhood.

An 1819 decision, Trustees of Dartmouth College v. Woodward, held that corporations have the right to enter into contract agreements with the same protections as individual people. Pembina Consolidated Silver Mining Co. v. Pennsylvania
125 U.S. 181 (1888)
, Justice Field issued an opinion which stated "Under the designation of 'person' there is no doubt that a private corporation is included."

So the concept has been around a long time and not really challenged until recently.
 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
34. Base on a misreading of the law
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:38 AM
Jun 2015

The Supremes have many, many foolish decisions to haunt them, Dred Scott comes to mind.

It's funny, our founding fathers fought against corporations (corporations were established by the king with grants of money, land, seals and controlling bodies.). The original tea party was about unfair taxes involving a corporation, the East India Tea company. The corporation didn't have to pay the tax, the people of the colonies did have to pay the tax so the East India Tea company could undercut their tea prices every time. Dartmouth was one of those corporations established by the king. And the foolish Supremes have allowed the British king's plan to dominate the average person through corporations to succeed.

The royals are still controlling us even here in the US. See how effectively capitalism has ensured the survival of the feudal lords. It's about time we evolved beyond it and got rid of our kings, corporate or royal, for good.

Spazito

(50,232 posts)
5. Roberts is confused...
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 05:11 PM
Jun 2015

the majority performed a magic trick with the wording of the Constitution in their Citizens United decision where they interpreted the First Amendment as meaning 'Corporations are people too'.

This decision adheres to the Constitution.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
17. Hillary may talk of what she may wish to do
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 06:15 PM
Jun 2015

but right now, I will be happy if she simply picks someone to replace Scalia and be a REAL judge, as well as seal any leaks left should Ruth lose her cancer battle.

Orrex

(63,185 posts)
31. I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:28 AM
Jun 2015

We should immediately reallocate our entire military budget toward keeping this amazing woman alive and healthy for as many decades as she cares to stick around.

A truly remarkable and heroic figure.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
32. I would give up 5 years of my life if they could be given to her for additional time on the bench.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 09:29 AM
Jun 2015

Seriously. I would.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
36. Ruth is the one
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 01:29 PM
Jun 2015

that they need to put on the new $10 bill. I don't care that she is, and hopefully will be, still alive when they do it.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
37. Roberts: Corporations are people
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:56 PM
Jun 2015

but commissions are not legislatures and commissions are not people.

Ya Gotta Wonder.

I had doubts about RBG not retiring, but she really brought home the bacon
this year.

One great mind can change the world.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
38. Here in California, as I remember ...
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:35 PM
Jun 2015

Back in 2008, as I remember, the GOP actually SUPPORTED (with $$$) the redistricting ballot prop, hoping it would strengthen
the GOP in a Democratic-dominated state.

It didn't.

Now Public Redistricting is seen as an enemy of GOP/Conservative power, as redistricting by politicians has given the GOP the mis-leading appearance (and apparent "performance&quot of strength in places where they are actually weaker.

Texas and other rightwing-corporatist hotbeds will never permit this ----It could be permanently fatal
to the GOP majority there, and elsewhere.

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