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Alan Grayson

(485 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:58 PM Jul 2015

Should I Run for the US Senate?

You are a supporter. That’s why I send you these notes. Now, I need to ask you an important question.

Should I run for the U.S. Senate?

I’ve been thinking about this decision for a long time.

If I do decide to try to join Elizabeth Warren and other good Progressive Democrats in the Senate, I need to know that I have your support.

If you think that I should run, please let me know, by contributing $20, $50, $100, $250 or even $500 today.

Every day, inequality is soaring. Social Security checks are worth less and less. The minimum wage is stuck at $7.25. America is the only advanced country without paid sick leave and paid vacations. Thirty million of us still can’t see a doctor when we are sick. College education is hopelessly expensive. The yoke of discrimination still weighs heavy on so many necks. And the law itself is up for sale to the highest bidder.

Someone has to fight back. And that “someone” is me.

You are one of many people who serve on the front lines, fighting for justice, equality and peace. People like you were grassroots leaders when Democrats took the Senate and the House in 2006, and took the White House in 2008.

Now we must stand together, and do it all over again in 2016.

My grandfather survived the Great Depression by going to the dump each day, and finding something that he could sell. I worked my way through Harvard by cleaning toilets, and then as a night watchman on the midnight shift. I know what it’s like to struggle; very few of today’s candidates and elected officials do. That’s why I fight so hard to improve the lives of ordinary people.

Your early support, now, will confirm that I can win this race, and make me feel that I’m doing the right thing. Contribute whatever amount you can, and show that you’re on our side. Every dollar counts.

When I returned to Congress in 2013, many Democrats were dispirited and defeatist. But during the 113th Congress, I wrote more bills than any other Member of the House of Representatives, passed more amendments on the Floor than any other Democrat, and had more of my bills signed into law than any other Member of the House, Democratic or Republican. The amendments I successfully passed through the U.S. House of Representatives have sought to transfer millions of dollars from military operations to medical research, increase bilingual housing counseling by 50%, restore almost half of the proposed cuts to HUD’s Housing for the Elderly Program, protect our privacy, and eliminate federal contracts for contractors who have cheated the government previously.

Salon magazine said that I’m the most effective Member of Congress. Business Insider said that I’m the most productive Member. And Time magazine said that I’m a stand-out Member in a do-nothing Congress.

What I’ve shown is very simple: That progressive Democrats can fight – and win! That’s leadership.

What worked in the House can work in the Senate. But only with your support.

Contribute $20, $50, $100, $250 or even $500 today at ActBlue now, and I’ll know that I can count on your support.

The next few days will make the difference. I need to know that I can count on you.

So what do you think?

Should I run for the Senate? And will you help?

Courage,

Rep. [Sen.?]Alan Grayson

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Should I Run for the US Senate? (Original Post) Alan Grayson Jul 2015 OP
Yes, you should. Aerows Jul 2015 #1
No. boston bean Jul 2015 #2
Why?? nt Logical Jul 2015 #132
I'll support you in whatever decision you decide. mmonk Jul 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #8
No (nt) bigwillq Jul 2015 #4
most definitely! n/t wildbilln864 Jul 2015 #5
no JI7 Jul 2015 #6
Hell yes.... daleanime Jul 2015 #7
No. MADem Jul 2015 #9
Alan I say go for it madokie Jul 2015 #10
no 840high Jul 2015 #11
Yes. ohnoyoudidnt Jul 2015 #12
Yes, You, Elizabeth and Bernie were the only forthcoming members of the house, Bless you . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #13
Members of the house? Nt. Doctor Who Jul 2015 #50
Senate sorry . n/t . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #60
No. BainsBane Jul 2015 #14
Why? Or just whining? nt Logical Jul 2015 #131
A few reasons BainsBane Jul 2015 #145
You should ask DUers for money... SidDithers Jul 2015 #15
"You are a supporter. That’s why I send you these notes." geek tragedy Jul 2015 #28
Or maybe five links pintobean Jul 2015 #68
Do you think the Grayson staffers who posts at DU in his name... SidDithers Jul 2015 #72
Count the money pintobean Jul 2015 #73
Now THAT literally made me ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #82
LOL. n/t FSogol Jul 2015 #84
Yes, please. I live near Tampa, and I will vote for you. djean111 Jul 2015 #16
Yes... Sort of NV Whino Jul 2015 #17
Newsome's got that one. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #22
Kamala Harris DAMANgoldberg Jul 2015 #62
Unfortunately, Villaraigosa Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #69
Isn't it Boxer's seat (she's retiring) that is up in 2016? cascadiance Jul 2015 #59
Kamala Harris will probably get Boxer's seat NV Whino Jul 2015 #81
One less warmonger in the Senate would be a good thing! Roland99 Jul 2015 #94
What? And hurt her husband's business opportunities? merrily Jul 2015 #111
I'm sure that's the main reason she's stayed in the senate. NV Whino Jul 2015 #127
Definitely not (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #18
No! Sorry but you would lose. Znt s-cubed Jul 2015 #19
Yes bahrbearian Jul 2015 #20
Do you think you can win? Rex Jul 2015 #21
this poll has an unannounced Grayson at 63% over the other guy nashville_brook Jul 2015 #106
Hmmm those sound like good odds. Rex Jul 2015 #107
Grayson is also an effective builder of progressive infrastructure in FL nashville_brook Jul 2015 #112
I hope the best for you and Grayson, lord knows you guys need it with Rick Scott running FL. Rex Jul 2015 #125
This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Jul 2015 #114
actually, the Grayson/Murphy race is the Senate race, confusing b/c nashville_brook Jul 2015 #115
Thank you. It is indeed the Senate. I am going to delete my prior post lest it mislead. merrily Jul 2015 #117
your post actually helped clarify something that i did have wrong nashville_brook Jul 2015 #118
Gravis Marketing right? naoya6161 Jul 2015 #130
That would be up to Floridians. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #23
Wasn't due to the electorate Roland99 Jul 2015 #95
I never blamed the electorate. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #96
No, because no BS, you can't win statewide in FL Reter Jul 2015 #24
No naoya6161 Jul 2015 #25
Copy and paste from a mass email? LAME. And NO, you should not run. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #26
You're a tough customer DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #32
Everyone knows this isn't really Alan Grayson, but c'mon geek tragedy Jul 2015 #34
Alan Grayson is a bona fide member of DU jmowreader Jul 2015 #47
So you prefer Grayson to Russ Feingold? geek tragedy Jul 2015 #48
This thread brought out a couple of weird replies. Perhaps he's not aware Russ is running? Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #52
Ya think? I love Feingold, too. merrily Jul 2015 #116
I wasn't aware Russ was running jmowreader Jul 2015 #57
"a bona fide member of DU"? pintobean Jul 2015 #67
Cough up some cash? FrodosPet Jul 2015 #74
The OP has no star pintobean Jul 2015 #75
But he IS a star! FrodosPet Jul 2015 #76
Bona fide? No thanks, I'll just stick with being a Gen-u-wine member FSogol Jul 2015 #85
"The OP reads like a typical Alan Grayson OP, so I have confidence it's him. " NCTraveler Jul 2015 #88
Ahhhh, someone needs a nap! nt Logical Jul 2015 #133
And someone needs to grow the fuck up. n/t JTFrog Jul 2015 #139
Nap time! nt Logical Jul 2015 #141
We'll remembe to wake you up for juice and crackers! NuclearDem Jul 2015 #161
Of course, yes randys1 Jul 2015 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author demmiblue Jul 2015 #29
Well, here's the thing Alan... PatrickforO Jul 2015 #30
his Blue Dog opponent actually started a "bipartisan" working group to force The Grand Bargain nashville_brook Jul 2015 #109
Ovaltine secret decoder ring says.... sufrommich Jul 2015 #31
Yes. H2O Man Jul 2015 #33
Nope! n/t justhanginon Jul 2015 #35
You know, if you actually wanted to discuss this or anything here on DU, fine. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #36
Yes! ananda Jul 2015 #37
Um, no... brooklynite Jul 2015 #38
You mean like Hillarys cheating husband? nt Logical Jul 2015 #134
I missed something: is Bill Clinton running for office? brooklynite Jul 2015 #142
Yes! CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #39
What is your in-state support like? eridani Jul 2015 #40
Count me as a "HELL NO" rjsquirrel Jul 2015 #41
No thanks, Grayson-spambot. But I'm sure his ego will spend millions on a doomed primary bloodying tritsofme Jul 2015 #42
Yes, please Pastiche423 Jul 2015 #43
Yes. nt LWolf Jul 2015 #44
I would vote for you over my current senators, but you are not from my state sorry. nt LostOne4Ever Jul 2015 #45
No. nt DEMTough Jul 2015 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Jul 2015 #49
You have my support. SamKnause Jul 2015 #51
No RandySF Jul 2015 #53
No. You'd lose. Badly. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #54
I think it would be cool. nt Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #55
Go for it! Only wish I could vote for you. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #56
No SCantiGOP Jul 2015 #58
You have the trolls all worked up RandiFan1290 Jul 2015 #61
Might as well you can always fo back to the house if you lose.nt craigmatic Jul 2015 #63
No. Sweet Jeebus, no. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #64
I would love to see you in the Senate! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #65
Why not run? B Calm Jul 2015 #66
I wish this was really Alan Grayson RiverLover Jul 2015 #70
Maybe... Ligyron Jul 2015 #71
I wish you well whichever you do dembotoz Jul 2015 #77
Yes, I think so. closeupready Jul 2015 #78
Yes. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #79
I've been a supporter and I've cheered you on. But you only come on DU (if it's really you and not ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2015 #80
I doubt it's actually him. Renew Deal Jul 2015 #103
You clearly don't have the conservadem woodchuck vote. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2015 #83
He clearly has the gullible rube vote though. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #98
+1...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #110
+1, you noticed that trend, too, huh? Marr Jul 2015 #122
No. Please no. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #86
I hope all is well with your family. pintobean Jul 2015 #87
I'm a Floridian; convince me. tavernier Jul 2015 #89
i agree -- this is precisely what campaigns and primaries are for, to convince us nashville_brook Jul 2015 #104
The media will skewer you and your level of popularity would lead JCMach1 Jul 2015 #90
Patrick Murphy NCTraveler Jul 2015 #91
Murphy was a Republican until 2011. And belongs to that New Democrat Coalition - dedicated to djean111 Jul 2015 #105
And that is fine. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #108
I sincerely doubt that Murphy is one iota more liberal than Grayson. djean111 Jul 2015 #123
"I sincerely doubt that Murphy is one iota more liberal than Grayson." NCTraveler Jul 2015 #124
LOL, you mean this guy..... Logical Jul 2015 #135
I never said he would pass a purity test. Not even close. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #137
YOu are like a lot of dems, they get scared of real liberals. Not sure why. nt Logical Jul 2015 #138
Your comment is a complete logical fallacy. A true, by definition, fallacy. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #140
Absolutely! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2015 #92
Please do. Pay no attention to the corporatists, Zorra Jul 2015 #93
Why not run for office in the Cayman Islands? KittyWampus Jul 2015 #97
Pretty much every single person here agrees this is a sock puppet. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #99
Ask your wife. BKH70041 Jul 2015 #100
Because wives should submit to their men-folk? closeupready Jul 2015 #149
Yes get the red out Jul 2015 #101
No. Renew Deal Jul 2015 #102
"unprofessional conduct" Logical Jul 2015 #136
No. nt hack89 Jul 2015 #113
Yes. Why does the Florida Democratic party keep backing recycled GOPers like Murphy & Crist? think Jul 2015 #119
''Be the change you wish to see in the world.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #120
Please move to TN and run for the Senate. I would pound the pavement for you! asjr Jul 2015 #121
How much would he lose by? Reter Jul 2015 #156
You should quit fighting in public with your ex if you want to. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #126
+1 nt steve2470 Jul 2015 #153
Yes but keep in mind as you see here the resistance from the corporate wing will be perhaps even TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #128
At the risk of losing your influence in the House Gman Jul 2015 #129
we've got new district lines *likely* coming and his district is going to safe D nashville_brook Jul 2015 #159
Then I say go for it. Gman Jul 2015 #160
Absolutely! And May the Force be with You! 2banon Jul 2015 #143
Yes LittleBlue Jul 2015 #144
Yes!! Sancho Jul 2015 #146
I think you should continue to build support in your district and stay in the House. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #147
Up to you, mate. sibelian Jul 2015 #148
Yes yuiyoshida Jul 2015 #150
Yes! We will need you there once Sanders wins his new job. arcane1 Jul 2015 #151
Nope. Adrahil Jul 2015 #152
Dear Rep. Grayson Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #154
Not sure. I like your courage but you you will not be the favorite. hrmjustin Jul 2015 #155
No heather blossom Jul 2015 #157
Support ending the embargo on Cuba and you will have both my vote and money. n/t Daniel537 Jul 2015 #158

Response to mmonk (Reply #3)

madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. Alan I say go for it
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:06 PM
Jul 2015

We need voices that speak our language. When I say our language I mean that speaks for us the 99% of us

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
145. A few reasons
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jul 2015

Florida is a conservative state. I don't believe he can win. I personally am disturbed by the way he has spoken about his wife in the press. Much of that business leaves me very uncomfortable. I no longer live in Florida, so I thankfully wouldn't have a decision to make in the general election. In the primary, I would have supported other candidates over him.

I must say I don't quite understand why he would be raising money now if he isn't even sure if he is running for Senate. What would the money be for?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. "You are a supporter. That’s why I send you these notes."
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jul 2015

They couldn't even be bothered to edit the opening. Simple copy and paste from a fundraising email.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
72. Do you think the Grayson staffers who posts at DU in his name...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:09 AM
Jul 2015

even looks at the replies?

Or do they just count the money when it comes in?

Sid

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
62. Kamala Harris
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:14 AM
Jul 2015

the current Atty Gen of CA is running for Boxer's seat. Gavin Newsome is planning to succeed Jerry Brown as Gov., the current Lt. Gov.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
69. Unfortunately, Villaraigosa
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:15 AM
Jul 2015

has his eye on the governorship and the CDP does love them some corporate Dems which Villaraigosa definitely is. I've been hearing through the grapevine that Newsome is planning on running for DiFi's seat which will be the same year of the California gubernatorial race so we'll have to see.

Kamala Harris should be a shoe-in for Boxer's seat. Sanchez has been talking about running which, since she's a corporate Democrat, will get the backing of the CDP but I'm not sure if/which seat she'll go for. Personally, I wish all corporate Dems would be challenged in every primary so we can get them the hell out of office and get REAL Democrats in.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
59. Isn't it Boxer's seat (she's retiring) that is up in 2016?
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:57 AM
Jul 2015

But I think you'd be a good replacement for her there.

Without Marco Rubio, I think you have a reasonable shot at Florida, without an independent help splitting the vote like one had last time.

Given your leadership against the TPP, I think there's a few states where perhaps even you could help with the primaries against the traitor Democrats in addition to going after winnable Republican seats...

Primarying the traitors:
1) Oregon - Come to our state and primary Senator Wyden if Peter DeFazio doesn't run. He'd be my first choice though if he could run.
2) Colorado - Michael Bennet was one of the traitors. Perhaps primary him.
3) Washington - Patty Murray was one of the traitors. Perhaps primary her.

These states perhaps a good shot at beating a Republican:
1) Illinois - though perhaps Tammy Duckworth should win that one.
2) Indiana - with the Republican incumbent retiring, perhaps this open field might be one to try and win, but I think you might want to team up with someone like John Cougar Mellencamp to help get the votes on your side.
3) Iowa - perhaps they will be sick of having just replaced Harkin with Joni Ernst, and make Grassley more vulnerable to defeat then.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Do you think you can win?
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:15 PM
Jul 2015

What do you think about your chances, you would know better then any of us.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
112. Grayson is also an effective builder of progressive infrastructure in FL
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:31 AM
Jul 2015

having a larger piece of real estate to build that infrastructure on would be nothing but buckets of goodness for Florida Dems who care about issues in the state. last couple of cycles he worked on worker's rights issues in his district. i think at the state level he'll be able to really move things.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
125. I hope the best for you and Grayson, lord knows you guys need it with Rick Scott running FL.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:22 AM
Jul 2015

Criminals running states is scary shit.

Response to nashville_brook (Reply #106)

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
115. actually, the Grayson/Murphy race is the Senate race, confusing b/c
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:41 AM
Jul 2015

they're both congressmen and are identified as such in the article:

On the Democratic side Alan Grayson, who hasn’t officially declared his candidacy holds a commanding lead, with 63% of the vote over declared candidate and fellow Congressman Patrick Murphy.


even more confusing -- there's not a viable Repub candidate right now, so the race is really btw Dems in the primary. And, another corporate Dem is jumping in, which will further dilute the Patrick Murphy vote.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
118. your post actually helped clarify something that i did have wrong
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:49 AM
Jul 2015

RE the primary vs the general.

thank you!

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
23. That would be up to Floridians.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:18 PM
Jul 2015

The only thing I know about Florida politics is they helped steal an American presidential election in 2000.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
95. Wasn't due to the electorate
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:22 AM
Jul 2015

Had the Bush/Cheney chairperson as the acting Secretary of State (same thing in Ohio in 2004). Imagine if the Gore chairperson had been the FL Sec of State?! OMG the poutrage would have been enormous!

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
96. I never blamed the electorate.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:56 AM
Jul 2015

I blame the corrupt system in Florida, a corrupt USSC, an even more corrupt FSC plus the weakness of the FDP "Leadership."

naoya6161

(147 posts)
25. No
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jul 2015

You aren't going to win. Especially with all these recent reveals about Cayman funds and your divorce. Sure you might win the primary, but I don't see you winning the general.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
26. Copy and paste from a mass email? LAME. And NO, you should not run.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:20 PM
Jul 2015

Tend to your Cayman Islands hedge fund instead.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
34. Everyone knows this isn't really Alan Grayson, but c'mon
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:36 PM
Jul 2015

People who have their own hedge funds in the Cayman Islands don't need my money

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
47. Alan Grayson is a bona fide member of DU
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:09 AM
Jul 2015

He joined after his 2010 defeat and posts occasionally. The OP reads like a typical Alan Grayson OP, so I have confidence it's him.

As to the question posited in the OP: yes Alan, you should run for the Senate; no, you should not do it from Florida because you'll probably lose - as hard right as Florida has gone, Ronald Reagan would be considered too liberal to elect statewide. My recommendation is to find a blue state with a Republican Senator up for election in 2016, and establish residency in that state.

I think Ron Johnson in Wisconsin is beatable.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
48. So you prefer Grayson to Russ Feingold?
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:12 AM
Jul 2015

The account is in Grayson's name. The text of this message is a copy and paste from a fundraising email.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
52. This thread brought out a couple of weird replies. Perhaps he's not aware Russ is running?
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:47 AM
Jul 2015

I don't know. I can tell you, as a Wisconsinite and one who will be canvasing for Feingold just like I have in the past, I like both but prefer Russ here and Grayson stay at home.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
57. I wasn't aware Russ was running
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:00 AM
Jul 2015

Alan has done a decent job as a Congressman, or as decent as someone in the minority party in Congress can do at any rate. If he runs for Senate in Florida we lose him in the House for at least two years AND he won't make the Senate because the GOP candidate in Florida could barbecue live babies and eat them on national TV and still win. And so the obvious route to the Senate will involve relocating to a blue state that has a crappy GOP senator, and running a good hard campaign.

However, given that Russ Feingold is running in WI, I'd prefer Feingold to anyone else.

Illinois would probably be better, don't you think? The voters in IL do love electing crooks, so the skeletons in his closet should pose no threat to his chances.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
76. But he IS a star!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:31 AM
Jul 2015

Perhaps there should be a rule that if you come here looking for money, you need to cough up for a Star membership!

All those in favor, say "Aye!"



All opposed, say "Nay!"

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
88. "The OP reads like a typical Alan Grayson OP, so I have confidence it's him. "
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:23 AM
Jul 2015

It is a direct copy and past of a fundraising email. I mean direct.

Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
30. Well, here's the thing Alan...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:24 PM
Jul 2015

I looked at your website, and am in agreement with you on the issues I care about. However, I tried to send you an email and was rejected because I live in Colorado.

It really bothers me that the US House email system is set up like this - I know the Republicans find it convenient, but I as a citizen do not. I strongly believe I should be able to email ANY US Representative or Senator any time I want.

By the way, what's you stance on Social Security? Because I'll tell you mine...I'm 56 and I've paid in full-boat to Social Security for 40 years. Now, Republicans are telling me that we cannot afford Social Security any more and should privatize, and the corporate propaganda meme that has been put out there is, 'it won't exist by the time we get there.' So where do you stand? What's your plan for Social Security?

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
109. his Blue Dog opponent actually started a "bipartisan" working group to force The Grand Bargain
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:26 AM
Jul 2015

as for Grayson's stand on Social Security, he's actually well known for fighting against any and all assaults to the program -- whether those assaults come from Rs or Ds.



http://www.jobs-not-wars.org/alan-grayson-speaks-truth-to-power-about-social-security-cuts/



John Fugelsang: You posted . . . that the President’s offer, essentially to cut Social Security benefits for seniors, does break a promise to America’s seniors. Some Republicans, of course, seem to like that. So, will Democrats support it, or will they support cuts to other social programs?

Congressman Alan Grayson: Well, the President specifically said in September 2008 that he would not change the formula for calculating the cost-of-living adjustment. That [would] take $1,000 a year out of the pockets of 90-year-olds. As for whether the Democrats will support it, I don’t know, but I know they shouldn’t. We’ve lined up 35 Democrats here in the House already who say, in the “Grayson-Takano Letter,” that they will vote against any cuts in Social Security, or Medicare, or Medicaid benefits.

John: So let me ask you, is it worth keeping the sequester cuts and foregoing any new revenues, in return for keeping Social Security as it is?

Alan: That’s not a choice that we should ever have to make. Social Security is not responsible for the deficit. The Social Security Fund has $1.9 trillion in it. It’s the largest sovereign wealth fund in the entire world. The Social Security Fund has been operating at a surplus now ever since the fund was founded, ever since the program was founded. We are 25 years away from anything resembling a problem of any kind with the Social Security system. In the next quarter of a century, under current law, the beneficiaries can get all that they’re entitled to. I don’t understand why we’re fretting over what might or might not happen in the year 2037, when we have 25 million Americans who are looking for full-time jobs [right now].

snip

John: With over 80% of the Bush tax cuts made permanent, I would add. So, let me ask you then, sir, for President Obama, is this an elaborate piece of political theater? Is he taking a page out of Dick Morris’ playbook for Bill Clinton by triangulating against House Democrats on this issue? So he can put himself in the middle of the political spectrum, where they say most voters live?

Alan: He may think so, but he’s making a terrible mistake. This is not a ‘Sister Souljah’ moment for the President. In fact, the President, I believe, is soon going to find through public polling that this is a terrible mistake. 90% of Democrats and 80% of the Republicans are against this specific proposal. If you’re talking more generally about cuts in benefits, you find that 80% of the Democrats and 65% of the Republicans are against this kind of proposal. This doesn’t make any sense, either from a policy point of view, or a moral point of view, or even a political point of view. In fact, the President is putting at risk all the progress that we’ve made in identifying the Republican Party as the party in favor of cuts for Medicare and Social Security benefits, and the Democratic Party as the party that will protect the public from the Republicans.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
36. You know, if you actually wanted to discuss this or anything here on DU, fine.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:52 PM
Jul 2015

But you all have been spamming my email with your desperate pleas for money, and now your spamming the forum I frequent?

Pffffffft, at least pay for a fucking ad here.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
41. Count me as a "HELL NO"
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jul 2015

And if you have to come to DU begging for support over and over, you have no chance even if you weren't a hypocrite who keeps his money in the Caymans while spouting progressive grandstanding cant (when not flying off the handle in embarrassing displays of immaturity) and asking fools for $20 contributions to a campaign that likely won't happen and has zero chance of success.

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
42. No thanks, Grayson-spambot. But I'm sure his ego will spend millions on a doomed primary bloodying
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:52 PM
Jul 2015

up the eventual nominee.

Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
61. You have the trolls all worked up
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 05:10 AM
Jul 2015

You get my vote!

I definitely will not vote for that smarmy little 'publicon Patrick Murphy.







 

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
70. I wish this was really Alan Grayson
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:16 AM
Jul 2015

and not a copy/paste from a fundraising email.

But we need all the progressives we can get in the Senate.

Ligyron

(7,629 posts)
71. Maybe...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:28 AM
Jul 2015

If you can run for the Senate and still keep your House seat should you lose. I'd love to see Rubio disappear, but your chances of defeating him or Nelson are slim.

dembotoz

(16,800 posts)
77. I wish you well whichever you do
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:31 AM
Jul 2015

Your divorce has been messy and could make you vulnerable.

Most important to keep you in office somewhere.

The house remains a great bully pulpit

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
80. I've been a supporter and I've cheered you on. But you only come on DU (if it's really you and not
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jul 2015

an intern) when you need something. That's not cool.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
86. No. Please no.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:13 AM
Jul 2015

Last edited Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:51 AM - Edit history (1)

And don't attach yourself to someone like EW. You aren't even close to an EW. Very weak attempting to use her to fill your coffers. Well, it is what you are best at. Florida has a ton of excellent progressives without the baggage. Or have you sent your baggage to an offshore account?

You will leave this state in the same position Crist left us in because of his personal ambitions and need for power. Fucked with a republican. Money. You are about the all mighty dollar.

You represent the one percent, don't post here often, can't even make a small contribution to the site with your millions and millions, and simply ask for money.

You seem to think your thoughts alone are worth the money of others, and I'm sure they are to hedge fund managers.

tavernier

(12,382 posts)
89. I'm a Floridian; convince me.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:24 AM
Jul 2015

But please, no more "I cleaned toilets". I've cleaned toilets and worse all my life for a living wage. That doesn't impress anyone. Rather, tell me exactly how you plan to make my state better for me. My son in law is our county's teacher of the year, but drives a car held together by bubble gum and baling wire. I have been a nurse all my working life, but at age seventy I'm still employed because I can't afford to retire. All I get, day in and day out, are pleas for money by millionaire politicians. So apparently the teachers and the nurses of this world have made the wrong career choice.

And yet, we are still waiting for our money's worth in congress.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
104. i agree -- this is precisely what campaigns and primaries are for, to convince us
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:12 AM
Jul 2015

There's too many issues facing Floridians for this seat to just go to whoever...by default. let's see a real debate where we're moved one way or the other by real issues.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
90. The media will skewer you and your level of popularity would lead
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:30 AM
Jul 2015

to a close and divisive primary which would cause us to end-up with a Republican Senator. As a Floridian, I have been a longtime supporter.

However, I don't think this is the time.

Consolidate, work hard, and wait for Nelson to retire.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
91. Patrick Murphy
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jul 2015

"This is a historic day in our nation’s history. For too long, same-sex couples have been discriminated against because of who they are and who they love. Today, that ends. We are a nation that prides itself on the diversity of our citizens, and I applaud the Supreme Court’s decision to give same-sex couples equal marriage rights under the law once and for all."

"Today, millions of Floridians can rest easy knowing that the critical funding they need for their health care coverage will remain in place. More Floridians are benefiting from the health care law than anywhere in the country, and while we can continue to work to strengthen the law, it shouldn’t be used as a political football that jeopardizes critical assistance for millions of Americans."

“It is unconscionable that House Republicans would insist on pushing this radical legislation that severely restricts a woman’s right to choose. This decision should rest with a woman and her doctor, not politicians, yet women are forced to defend their right to make their own medical choices year after year. Working families in Florida and across the country deserve better from this Congress than constantly pushing reckless and unconstitutional legislation.”

"Rep. Murphy is a cosponsor of the Women's Health Protection Act, legislation supported by 110 members of Congress. The legislation would help invalidate state laws that compromise women's access to safe, legal abortions and harm women's health."

http://patrickmurphy.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398596

As far as words go, Murphy is more centrist overall than Grayson. As far as actual political contributions to the state, Grayson is invisible, while Murphy tries to make things better.


 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
105. Murphy was a Republican until 2011. And belongs to that New Democrat Coalition - dedicated to
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:16 AM
Jul 2015

throwing that inconvenient ideology aside and working with the GOP. Which always ends up as doing what the GOP wants to do.
Funny how Liz Warren being with the GOP 20-odd years ago is flung around as a reason to not support her, but someone who switched in 2011 is touted as a Good Democrat. A Debbie Wasserman-Schultz Centrist Production, IMO.

I will not be voting for Murphy.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
108. And that is fine.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jul 2015

I actually don't fault you. Just as I wouldn't fault anyone for voting for Mr. Offshore one percenter who has done nothing for this state. Florida is pretty fucked up. I would take Murphy over Grayson any day of the week. Murphy is honest. Grayson is a offshoring one percent swindler who makes the party look bad through his own words and actions.

Patrick Murphy





"This is a historic day in our nation’s history. For too long, same-sex couples have been discriminated against because of who they are and who they love. Today, that ends. We are a nation that prides itself on the diversity of our citizens, and I applaud the Supreme Court’s decision to give same-sex couples equal marriage rights under the law once and for all."

"Today, millions of Floridians can rest easy knowing that the critical funding they need for their health care coverage will remain in place. More Floridians are benefiting from the health care law than anywhere in the country, and while we can continue to work to strengthen the law, it shouldn’t be used as a political football that jeopardizes critical assistance for millions of Americans."

“It is unconscionable that House Republicans would insist on pushing this radical legislation that severely restricts a woman’s right to choose. This decision should rest with a woman and her doctor, not politicians, yet women are forced to defend their right to make their own medical choices year after year. Working families in Florida and across the country deserve better from this Congress than constantly pushing reckless and unconstitutional legislation.”

"Rep. Murphy is a cosponsor of the Women's Health Protection Act, legislation supported by 110 members of Congress. The legislation would help invalidate state laws that compromise women's access to safe, legal abortions and harm women's health."


 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
123. I sincerely doubt that Murphy is one iota more liberal than Grayson.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:16 AM
Jul 2015

And he was expected to make those remarks. And he is polishing up his image. I have gotten irreversibly cynical, especially when it comes to Florida politics. That New Democrat Coalition gives me great concern, and nothing Murphy says can possibly counter that. A GOPer until 2011. Not for me. I realize I will have zero impact, of course, but at least I will not be enabling.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
124. "I sincerely doubt that Murphy is one iota more liberal than Grayson."
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:21 AM
Jul 2015

My initial post you replied to I made that exact same point. In words, I think Grayson is more ideologically to the left. Probably in his gut as well, his life just doesn't show it. There is absolutely no doubt about that. In actions, Grayson is not even close to left, while Murphy actually is starting to move things in that direction. I believe a vote for Grayson is supporting and enabling the right in this state. He is their best friend.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
135. LOL, you mean this guy.....
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:09 AM
Jul 2015

In 2013 Murphy voted in support of the Northern Route Approval Act, which would have allowed Congress to unilaterally approve construction of the Keystone Pipeline without the approval of the Obama administration. The American Petroleum Institute praised Murphy's vote, saying "it shows that he understands the importance of putting America’s economy and energy future ahead of politics.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
137. I never said he would pass a purity test. Not even close.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jul 2015

You might even want to go back and read a line I wrote about his positions in the post you replied to. I referenced it.

And yes, I mean this guy.

"This is a historic day in our nation’s history. For too long, same-sex couples have been discriminated against because of who they are and who they love. Today, that ends. We are a nation that prides itself on the diversity of our citizens, and I applaud the Supreme Court’s decision to give same-sex couples equal marriage rights under the law once and for all."

"Today, millions of Floridians can rest easy knowing that the critical funding they need for their health care coverage will remain in place. More Floridians are benefiting from the health care law than anywhere in the country, and while we can continue to work to strengthen the law, it shouldn’t be used as a political football that jeopardizes critical assistance for millions of Americans."

“It is unconscionable that House Republicans would insist on pushing this radical legislation that severely restricts a woman’s right to choose. This decision should rest with a woman and her doctor, not politicians, yet women are forced to defend their right to make their own medical choices year after year. Working families in Florida and across the country deserve better from this Congress than constantly pushing reckless and unconstitutional legislation.”

"Rep. Murphy is a cosponsor of the Women's Health Protection Act, legislation supported by 110 members of Congress. The legislation would help invalidate state laws that compromise women's access to safe, legal abortions and harm women's health."

I wonder which of the two is most familiar with the intricacies of tax evasion by way of offshoring?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
140. Your comment is a complete logical fallacy. A true, by definition, fallacy.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jul 2015

"YOu are like a lot of dems, they get scared of real liberals. Not sure why."

I have no fear of one percenter, offshore loving, best friend to republicans, liberals. None. I thank you for telling me what I am scared of though. This goes completely against the idea of logic. "YOu are like a lot of dems, they get scared of real liberals. Not sure why."

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
92. Absolutely!
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:42 AM
Jul 2015

Though you'll continue to have my support whatever you decide. And I'm already a regular contributor...

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
93. Please do. Pay no attention to the corporatists,
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:16 AM
Jul 2015

we have a small but inordinately active and vocal Third Way presence here.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
100. Ask your wife.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:00 AM
Jul 2015

Ask her "If there's one thing that you want me to do right now, what would it be?"

And then whatever it is, do it.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
102. No.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 09:07 AM
Jul 2015

I want the best chance of winning and between your occasional unprofessional conduct and baggage it will hurt us in the race.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
136. "unprofessional conduct"
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jul 2015

You mean calling out idiots who are idiots?

You are in dreamland if you think Congress is professional.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
126. You should quit fighting in public with your ex if you want to.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:24 AM
Jul 2015

You've already lost a lot of respect from a lot of people over the petty way you've treated her and your kids.

You're a multimillionaire. Just give her half and be done with it.

Do that, and people might be more willing to back you in a Senate run.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
128. Yes but keep in mind as you see here the resistance from the corporate wing will be perhaps even
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:40 AM
Jul 2015

more zealous and desperate to maintain the status quo than the TeaPubliKlans as they line up yet again behind a Republican that finds themselves no longer viable in the regressive circus and doomed to fail against the genuine article while working to drag our party further to the right across the spectrum even if the bullhorn one or two points of essential human decency in the stead of liberal policy at large.

Yes sir, we need you on the larger stage as a country not another homeless country club Republican sacrificial lame but keep in mind there are vipers in our house that will be dedicated to your loss even more so than they would the opposition.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
129. At the risk of losing your influence in the House
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:51 AM
Jul 2015

and possibly your seat to the GOP, I'd like to see you in the Senate. But people in hell want ice water too. I believe FL is purple at worst. So if you think you can get the vote out, which should be heavy in a presidential year, go for it.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
159. we've got new district lines *likely* coming and his district is going to safe D
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:56 AM
Jul 2015

no republican will take that seat in 2016 -- the worry is that a corporate Dem would grab it. And there's a few of those who've expressed keen interest.

for whoever wins it in 2016-- it would be his or hers forever. it's moving from a D+2 to something like D+10 (i need to dig up those numbers). if the state court rules on these district lines before the election, as expected, we'll gain at least 2 seats (Daniel Webster's D-10 seat back -- it used to be Grayson's before redistricting/gerrymandering).

one of the things we lament in FL -- probably everywhere -- is the lack of a bench. we need to "promote" where we can, so our good up-and-comers can move into those positions, and continue the work to develop new leaders.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
152. Nope.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 01:29 PM
Jul 2015

Personally, I dont think you can win a state-wide election in FL. But we still need your voice in Congress. Keep that seat!

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
154. Dear Rep. Grayson
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 01:34 PM
Jul 2015

I have been a fan of yours until I read about your behavior towards your wife/ex-wife--the mother of your children. I know divorce is hard, and the emotions are sometimes too much to bear. But, your children are watching you, and are learning from you.

If what they say is true, about your behavior towards your wife/ex-wife...then stop. You are showing a significant lack of character. I get it--she deserves it--you are in the right and she is in the wrong. Whatever. Act like someone your kids could look up to.

I would never support someone who treated the mother of their children the way you are alleged to have done.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
155. Not sure. I like your courage but you you will not be the favorite.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jul 2015

If you run you lose your house seat.

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