Ruth Bader Ginsberg - when she was known as Kiki

[ehrnst]

A friend's mom knew her at Cornell when this photo was taken:

[AndreaCG]

1. What a glamorous picture!

[PCIntern]

2. The style of the black and white photography

Coupled with the lighting and the grain of the film glamorized the individual. Highlights on the hair, makeup, shadows of mystery made people have a depth to the personality which is not often duo cared in color photography and definitely not HD. She of course has intellect and depth.

[CTyankee]

3. I still find her lovely and wonderful in full color! Her face shows a life well lived...

and yes, she was a young beauty and that kind of beauty shines through the years...

[PCIntern]

9. I agree completely...

I was just saying that the photography of the era could do wonders for many people whereas today...you get those "25 family photos better left unseen" at one of the click-it websites...

[Eleanors38]

46. Doesn't surprise me. She is still very attractive.

[CTyankee]

48. I actually met her! It was many years ago, before she was a federal judge.

I was working for the ACLU in New York and RBG was the organization's General Counsel and worked closely with its Women's Rights Project. Interesting time. It was a heavily male dominated organization and not without its own sexism. But she was one tough lady...still is...

[Eleanors38]

59. She impresses me as someone who could sit across from you at a diner...

A lawyer friend of mine once said that if a veteran, confident attorney is your adversary -- and happens to be attractive -- watch out! she 's "been there." "There" being all the stereotypes, assumptions, biases, etc., and her appearance can only be an asset.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

10. Believe it or not,

film has higher resolution than HD. We're now seeing 2k and 4k TVs. Machines that processed 2 and 4k existed 15 years ago, because HD didn't look as good as the original 35mm print. They'd digitize everything to 4k for editing, then print it back to a film reel (or, in the case of digital prints, it would stay as a 4K file for properly equipped theaters). Up until the advent of cameras like the RED One, most HD broadcast stuff was shot on 16mm film, as it was very similar to the 720p frame size (and you had a better picture with less motion blur and jitter that digital cameras of the time were plagued by).

[PCIntern]

15. Yes...but films like Panatomic-X and Tri-X

as B & W delivered a whole different "look" than color does. You could never shoot a pic like that in color of an "average" individual.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

45. Oh, you're absolutely correct.

I used to shoot Tri-X and Agfa APX. My favorite was to light everything nice and bright, and smear a little vaseline on my skylight filter to get that sparkling look. Or, just use a red filter for some nice contrast.

[burrowowl]

43. Right on about HD and 35mm!

And I think she still looks wonderful!

[pansypoo53219]

44. oh yes. i collect old b/p + i can bring out amazing things from under & over exposed shots.

OMG its a meal on the porch!

[maddiemom]

13. Never really thought about it, but you're so right!

I have a favorite photograph of my late Mom taken about the same era. She looked so gorgeous. Another favorite taken about the same time shows her in a prim 1940ish suit, under Washington cherry blossom trees. I recently showed them to some friends, who just said "Wow! Your Mom was really beautiful." She was a very attractive woman, but the black and white photos showed her to exceptional advantage.

[PCIntern]

16. Absitively!

All of us of a certain age and older have pics of our families which makes them look like Hollywood material. Even if you watch Steve Martin in Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, he looks entirely different than he normally did in all of his color films. Fascinating!

[ariesgem]

60. Thanks for that little tidbit on B/W photography

Now I'm about to advertise my ignorance on the subject. I always thought that movie stars, my grandma and my mama and all others who came from that era were all just from a glamorous generation! lol... My generation on down were just plain ole slobs ...

[Gothmog]

4. RBG was stunning

[Fla Dem]

12. And still is in all ways! nt

[MynameisBlarney]

5. Daaaaayum!!!

[sarge43]

6. Breck Girl n/t

[maddiemom]

14. Ironic! My mom originally trained at a "Beauty School," now "Cosmotolegy."

A Breck representative came in and singled out Mom as a perfect example of a "Breck Girl." She never forgot how offended she was, because her hair was natural. She was half Norwegian and her Dad was nearly white/blond. Mom's hair was about the same kind of blond as Ingrid Bergman.

[PCIntern]

17. I always thought that the expression meant that

your hair was thick and lustrous as the models they used for Breck shampoo. I didn't know it had anything to do with color...

[maddiemom]

20. You're right! I knew some parts of the story were missing over the years.

My Mom was offended when the topic revolved around color/coloring.

[TexasBushwhacker]

51. Kim Basinger was a Breck Girl

[mountain grammy]

7. Beautiful woman.

Outstanding justice!

[etherealtruth]

8. Inside and out! nt

[d_b]

11. whoa

[Omaha Steve]

18. A very pretty future Justice

K&R!

[2banon]

19. Is this photo image public domain? Is it FB sharable?

I'd love to post it on my fb page! Thanks for posting here btw..

[arcane1]

26. I've seen it posted on Facebook a few times over the years n/t

[2banon]

28. interesting.. thank you. n/t

[hifiguy]

21. Wowsers!

Am I the only one who sees a bit of a resemblance to Lauren Bacall?

[Adrahil]

22. Looks liek she's already thinking....

About ways to piss of the right wing nuts!

Awesome!

[whathehell]

23. Wow...Pretty! n/t

[onehandle]

24. Appointed by President Clinton. nt

[uponit7771]

50. +1

[suffragette]

25. Thoughtful then and thoughtful now

K&R

[Aristus]

27. Wow!

[stuffmatters]

29. I suspect the photo's from her sorority. She & Janet Reno were both in sororities at Cornell

Since I was too a decade later, I've been really proud of having that slight link to both.. especially RBG. She's still sooo
beautiful as well as brilliant wonderful Clinton's best gift to America.

[SoapBox]

30. Wow.

Total glam shot.

[MannyGoldstein]

31. Her Freshman Dorm...

In my mind's eye, I can picture her trudging through the snow and over the Fall Creek gorge on her way to the Arts Quad...

[Gloria]

32. Oh, Yeah..I lived here 68-70 before moving off campus

jr. and sr. years..

In fact, I can see my room...top floor, pretty much in the middle over the center portico!!!!!!!
I loved Clara Dickson Hall....I had to spend part of my fall semester soph year in Donlon with a miserable roomate, but got lucky and went back to Dickson...so happy!!

[MannyGoldstein]

37. Luxury!

U Hall 3, before moving to Rockledge.

[Gloria]

58. Oh,those things down at the base of Libe Slope??

That was a heart attack walk up that hill@@

[Gloria]

33. Yup! I lost my high school ring one day on that trek..

over the gorge, on the left, Noyes Lodge on Beebe Lake!!!!

Had to go through the Balch courtyard first, then the walk toward campus...

On Sundays, without meal service, we always got a "pizzaburg" sub at the food truck there!

[stuffmatters]

38. OMG those pizzaburger subs at the Thurston food truck.

Never, ever could find a pizzaburger sub or make one as good. Thank you for recalling them.

[Gloria]

41. OH, yeah, they were wrapped up tight and we

would race back to our rooms with them...open up the paper to this splendid big long roll, with the passable tomato sauce and meat, crowned with the onions and the melted Velveeta oozing out all over the place...

Sigh, I have to say...my tastes have changed, but back then....it was HEAVEN!

[stuffmatters]

55. Was thev truck called Louie's Lunch? I been racking my brain all weekend.

I never realized the secret ingredient was velveeta.

[Gloria]

57. MMM. It may very well have been called that...

I think we just called it "Louie's"...and we called it a "pizzaburg" sub, (not pizzaburger)...

I'm pretty sure it was Velveeta or some other mess that comes from a jar....Anyway, it was creamy and oozed all over the place!

[stuffmatters]

39. I got to live there freshman year & then Risley junior year

[Gloria]

42. My good friend lived in Risley...

was small compared to Dickson....and Balch...but unique!

[stuffmatters]

52. I heard that later, when they coed-ed the dorms, Christopher Reeve lived in Risley.

[Gloria]

34. She reminisced about her her time at Cornell last fall...

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2014/09/ruth-bader-ginsburg-reminisces-about-her-time-hill

She was class of '54...I was 3 years old! I'm class of /72 Arts and Sciences

[stuffmatters]

36. I was a very proud member class of 1969 ( Yep That Class) Arts & Sciences.

[Gloria]

40. Oh, did you fornicate in the aisles???

Remember the press coverage of the Barton Hall meeting? Yup, we were all "fornicating in the aisles"!!!!!

God, that was some time, wasn't it???? GUNS on CAMPUS....these days I guess that's old hat! My mother wanted me to come home!!

The one thing I really remember was walking up that path to the dorms with my friend, a BRILLIANT black woman, who hated what the Black Student Union was doing...they intimidated her and she LEFT Cornell! It really saddened me...she was a brilliant history major....but she was mixed race and she wasn't with the guys with the guns....

Then, there were all the anti-war marches...and friends going to get checked out for the draft...I remember my boyfriend's roomate, who was trying to be a conscientious objector, coming home, shaking like a leaf...he had been REJECTED....I think he smoked pot non-stop from then on!

[stuffmatters]

54. Well, it was a time of make love not war!

Even romance had a heightened political thrill and meaning.

I was good friends with some of the people who took over "The Straight." Both Tom Jones, who had been president of our freshman class, and Homer Meade...both were ZBTs... prominent in the iconic Time Mag cover photo that appeared on the day we graduated. I've always had a print on my wall!

I remember being outside The Straight in support of the students inside. And the DU & Psi U (& probably SAE) dumb jocks' foiled attempt to "take back" The Straight from the protestors inside. Perfectly encapsulated the very divided politics of our class, which included then and now prominent Repubs like Peter Coors, Stephen Hadley (Bush's national sec director), Knight Kiplinger.

I got to know Pres Perkins years later in Tucson, where he was a friend of my parents in retirement. A really, really charming lovely man. He was, as I recall, pretty much discredited by this event. (Prof Rossiter too...that was tragic) I never talked with Perkins
about it, but I think looking back Perkins' non confrontational equanimity probably saved student lives that day.

I'm sorry your friend left Cornell. But one direct result of The Straight "takeover" was that Cornell did establish an African-American Studies Dept & Center in McGraw Hall. Women's Studies followed soon after I believe.

Our class (69) was completely freaked out by the draft. Up until the lottery, our senior year, if you flunked out (and C was a normal grade at Cornell, so flunking out happened a lot) and you were a guy, you were draftable straight to Vietnam. Junior year even into the Marines! Yes, there was a profound anti war stress being vented in The Straight takeover too

What a memorable & formative time this was...it's wonderful to "chat" about it with someone who also was there. Thank you so much.

[Gloria]

56. The Draft was really something that weighed on everybody...

If you were lucky, you could get out of going if you went to grad school....An acquaintance who we called "Scottburger" (actually was his name, but we sort of made into one word) decided to go to grad school in philosophy, for example. I don't think he gave a damn about philosophy, but heck, it was a way to get out of going to VietNam...I remember the "numbers" that some of my friends drew, some in the 500's...they felt fairly safe, esp. the guy who was going to med school...

Yes, AA Studies and Women's Studies did get created in the aftermath of the Straight takeover.

I remember being holed up in Dickson Hall...we were sort of in shut down mode for awhile. I think it's cool that you knew some of the people who did the deed at the Straight.

Cornell was and still is an odd mix of private and state schools on one campus. I remember having to wear white gloves when I interviewed on Pembroke (now all Brown)...then, went up to Ithaca and it was a LOT more funky...I remember going home and my mother being upset because she saw people wearing...JEANS!! Of course, it was just that sort of thing that made Cornell even more appealing to me...coming out of a nice little lily-white town, that had in the not so distant past, had discriminated against Italians (my mother was on the receiving end of it as she grew up...).. I was MORE than ready for a change!

I became ad manager at the Sun, then my sr. year, left the Business Board and took over the "Uncle Mudgeon" column ...I have some saved and they are there in the digital Cornell Daily Sun. I used to get mail from other colleges....it was a humorous cooking column that I revamped, mixing current events and tying them to a very simple recipe. I was interested in international stuff even then!

Thank you, too, for the memories...I wonder if I knew you????

[glinda]

35. Beautiful.....and still is...

[Eleanors38]

47. "Pictures of Lilly." The Who.

[Uncle Joe]

49. She was a beautiful young woman

now she's a beautiful old lady.

Thanks for the thread, ehrnst.

[MrMickeysMom]

53. Hot! But, even hotter now!

Amongst all those right wing jag-offs of the court.

This picture is a super-brained Veronica Lake.