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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:08 PM Jul 2015

Cecil the lion's killer revealed as American dentist

Cecil the lion – the most famous creature in one of Zimbabwe's national parks – was killed by an American hunter who has boasted about shooting a menagerie of animals with his bow and arrow, The Telegraph can reveal.

Walter Palmer, a dentist from Minnesota, is believed to have paid £35,000 to shoot and kill the much-loved lion with a bow and arrow. The animal was shot on July 1 in Hwange National Park. Two independent sources have confirmed the hunter's identity to the paper, which has also seen a copy of the relevant hunting permit.

Conservation groups in Zimbabwe reacted angrily to the news that the 13-year-old animal had been killed: partly because the lion was known to visitors and seemingly enjoyed human contact, and partly because of the way in which he was killed. He was lured out of the national park and shot.

"He never bothered anybody," said Johnny Rodrigues, the head of Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force. "He was one of the most beautiful animals to look at."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/11767119/Cecil-the-lions-killer-revealed-as-American-dentist.html
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Cecil the lion's killer revealed as American dentist (Original Post) SecularMotion Jul 2015 OP
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #1
Perhaps a major boycott would put this asshole out of business! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #3
His practice is closed for the week. He is in hiding. Hiraeth Jul 2015 #6
This asshole deserves a severe fine and jail time. Individuals like this should not be RKP5637 Jul 2015 #8
Agree. Hiraeth Jul 2015 #11
I am very sorry to see that a lame jury voted to hide your post. Coventina Jul 2015 #13
Agreed and he probably does. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #39
This asshole should be jailed and do hard time for life! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #2
I am fuming! shanti Jul 2015 #4
His kill now threatens the survival of the cubs in that pride. HughBeaumont Jul 2015 #5
That's possibly true for any male lion killed. Igel Jul 2015 #12
Humans do love to bring misery and suffering to others, it is a curse. Rex Jul 2015 #7
Many humans are absolute garbage. For some reason it took me a long time to realize that, often RKP5637 Jul 2015 #9
I am a fool, I always give each one a second change or the benefit of the doubt. Rex Jul 2015 #10
I just want to say to the jury that did the bogus hide on Hiraeth: Coventina Jul 2015 #14
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #15
I hope he picks his lawyers better than he picks his own dentist tomm2thumbs Jul 2015 #22
Look at that psycho grin, the evil pos!!!!!! darkangel218 Jul 2015 #27
Too bad if he had a mishap, just like his prey. erronis Jul 2015 #29
What goes around comes around. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #32
Disgusting piece of shit. geardaddy Jul 2015 #48
Diolch! darkangel218 Jul 2015 #49
Looks like he uses the same tooth-whitening agent as the Kocks erronis Jul 2015 #28
This hide should be appealed, reviewed, whatever and rescinded. Divernan Jul 2015 #17
i did see his home address posted as well shanti Jul 2015 #30
Home address is not OK. Business is fair game. Remember Memories Pizza? Coventina Jul 2015 #31
i wasn't planning to post it shanti Jul 2015 #33
Agreed. Bullshit hide perpetrated by knee-jerk jurists who ... 11 Bravo Jul 2015 #35
Um it says deleted by administration GusBob Jul 2015 #37
The post had an address and a phone number in it darkangel218 Jul 2015 #46
yes, skinner et al take posting personal info pretty seriously Kali Jul 2015 #52
You might want to read this: Dr. Strange Jul 2015 #47
NEWS: Dentist is being excoriated on YELP Divernan Jul 2015 #16
That is BEAUTIFUL! Thanks for sharing!! Coventina Jul 2015 #18
Apparently VA_Jill Jul 2015 #21
Big surprise! He supported Romney. Contrary1 Jul 2015 #19
Go fuck yourself, Walter Palmer! nt City Lights Jul 2015 #20
I hope karma visits this guy, but good. mnhtnbb Jul 2015 #23
With any luck,this guy will never make enough money to sufrommich Jul 2015 #24
I knew that name was familiar sarisataka Jul 2015 #25
Wow! Please be sure to tell them the reason for the cancellation: Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #34
Most definitely sarisataka Jul 2015 #40
And he made money to enjoy his sport around the world. You were overcharged to pay for that. freshwest Jul 2015 #36
I expect the backlash to be sarisataka Jul 2015 #41
The more I learn of people, the more I like my animals discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #43
Can he be extradited for this? sub.theory Jul 2015 #26
Sport hunting should be banned, especially for endangered animals. Kurska Jul 2015 #38
yup ibegurpard Jul 2015 #45
40 HOURS between the arrow shooting and when the lion was finished off with a rifle shot. Paladin Jul 2015 #42
PLEASE don't forget the outfitters ibegurpard Jul 2015 #44
... 2naSalit Jul 2015 #50
stupid coward spent $50,000 to embarrass his country and ruin his career Skittles Jul 2015 #51
Message deleted by DU the Administrators AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #53

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
8. This asshole deserves a severe fine and jail time. Individuals like this should not be
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:27 PM
Jul 2015

tolerated in a civilized society, or anyplace for that matter of fact!

Coventina

(27,125 posts)
13. I am very sorry to see that a lame jury voted to hide your post.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:01 PM
Jul 2015

This guy needs to feel hunted himself!!!!!

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
39. Agreed and he probably does.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jul 2015

While on the subject, I hope he's familiar with the quote from Hemingway:
"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."

Hemingway was such an insightful spirit. He also had an affinity for polydactyl cats, cats with thumbs.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
5. His kill now threatens the survival of the cubs in that pride.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jul 2015

Wally He-Man also likes hunting "Near Threatened" and "Endangered" game. In the photos, he doesn't even seem the least bit sorry or caring.

Igel

(35,321 posts)
12. That's possibly true for any male lion killed.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:33 PM
Jul 2015

This one's special ... Mostly because he's famous, he's a symbol, he's important for tourism.

Not because he's a male lion.

Killing a male lion happens all that infrequently without much of a reaction, so it's not just the maleness of the lion or the fact that it's a lion that was killed. The reaction is completely different this time, and you'd have to think that it's what's different that accounts for the difference in reactions.

It helps that it's an ugly American, that it's a white male American, and that he's not impoverished. But the outrage bandwagon had left the barn before that info was leaked.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Humans do love to bring misery and suffering to others, it is a curse.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jul 2015

Watched something at a friends house, a family lost their young daughter to cyber-bullying (she hung herself). Turns out the online boyfriend was not real and was actually her neighbors (mom and daughter) pretending to be a boy that turned bad. The neighbors had no shame and did not feel bad about the girls suicide. Some humans just have evil inside them and are waiting to release it on the world.

Cecil the lion should have learned a lesson, humans are not his friends. Humans are his killers. Humans hate him and love to kill for the culture of death and power over others.

Rot in Hell Walter Palmer, rot in Hell.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
9. Many humans are absolute garbage. For some reason it took me a long time to realize that, often
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:29 PM
Jul 2015

giving the benefit of doubt, but as I've grown older I've wised up.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. I am a fool, I always give each one a second change or the benefit of the doubt.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jul 2015

And by now I know better. Thankfully there are some humans that give me hope, but assholes like Palmer just make me SMH and wonder why we got so far off the track of taking care of the earth.

Coventina

(27,125 posts)
14. I just want to say to the jury that did the bogus hide on Hiraeth:
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:07 PM
Jul 2015

S/he did not post his private information!!!

That is his BUSINESS information.

Posters post business information on this board all.the.time.

It is NOT private!!!!

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
32. What goes around comes around.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:27 PM
Jul 2015

Karma is a b****, it will get me sooner or later.



This is so FUCT up!

Coventina

(27,125 posts)
31. Home address is not OK. Business is fair game. Remember Memories Pizza?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:25 PM
Jul 2015

How many posters on DU got hides over that?

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
46. The post had an address and a phone number in it
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:24 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 28, 2015, 08:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Maybe that's why. Legal reasons.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
52. yes, skinner et al take posting personal info pretty seriously
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:29 PM
Jul 2015

good thing you seem to have learned that

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
16. NEWS: Dentist is being excoriated on YELP
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jul 2015

Dentist is being crucified on YELP! HAH! This man is finished as a member of his community. I've never been a hunter but I used to do some target shooting & know people who are lifelong hunters. Basic rule, never hunt too late in the day, because if you only wound an animal, you are supposed to be able to track it down and finish the job before dark SO THE ANIMAL DOES NOT SUFFER MORE THAN NECESSARY. So I really expect that any ethical hunter would shun this dentist. Here's one sample "review".

"Like I said before my review was deleted, this guy is a credit to humanity. I really love the way that he tore off his shirt, puffed out his chest, let out a brave cry & stopped a vicious man-eating lion from killing his entire family as they were quietly playing Yahtzee in the comforts of their own home. What do you mean "the animal was a national treasure"? What do you mean "he seemed to enjoy being around humans"? What does "lured away from the reservation" mean? Can I change my rating to 1 star?
http://www.yelp.com/biz/river-bluff-dental-bloomington

This asshole went into a game sanctuary at night, tied a dead animal to his truck to lure the lion outside the sanctuary, shot it with a bow and arrow - and although this piece of slime brags he's a great shot, only wounded the animal and (it being DARK), could not track it and finish it off and was not able to locate if for FORTY HOURS, during which time the animal suffered greatly, then found it, shot it , cut off its head and skin, and then (with his law-breaking "guide&quot trucked the carcass back to the edge of the sanctuary. I hope whole countries take note and deny him entry.

VA_Jill

(9,984 posts)
21. Apparently
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:08 PM
Jul 2015

he wasn't all that popular BEFORE he shot the lion, from anything I can glean. I think he might be done now. Where's my fork?

mnhtnbb

(31,395 posts)
23. I hope karma visits this guy, but good.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:10 PM
Jul 2015

We lived next door to a guy like this in Lincoln, NE. He built a new house--out in the country--and invited
everyone for a cocktail party. I was horrified when we went and discovered there were heads--trophies--
of all kinds of animals displayed all over the house. I was literally sick to my stomach and told my husband
we had to leave.

What kind of a sick fuck does this sort of thing? Haven't they ever heard of cameras?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
24. With any luck,this guy will never make enough money to
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jul 2015

"pay to kill" again. It's starting to look that way already.

sarisataka

(18,679 posts)
25. I knew that name was familiar
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jul 2015

We had a referral for one of my children to see him last year. We are supposed to go back in November.

I don't think I'm keeping that appointment

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
34. Wow! Please be sure to tell them the reason for the cancellation:
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 04:36 PM
Jul 2015

You don't want to do business with a murderer.

sarisataka

(18,679 posts)
40. Most definitely
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jul 2015

I have no issue with hunting for food, even if not strictly necessary but to kill an animal just to take its head- I have no word for that.

I can't even call it barbaric; a barbarian wouldn't be so wasteful.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
36. And he made money to enjoy his sport around the world. You were overcharged to pay for that.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jul 2015
I'd ask for a refund for being overbilled by this guy to fund his obsession with traveling to kill. And removing the collar from the lion to hide the evidence.

But since he must have the approval of the neighborhood, it might be best to just not go to him again. Otherwise the kids might get set upon by the local wackjobs. I can see the Ted Nugent circus coming to your town to call him a victim.


sarisataka

(18,679 posts)
41. I expect the backlash to be
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 06:55 PM
Jul 2015

Against him.

We are a big hunting state but the overwhelming majority are ethical. Our TIP (turn in poachers) program is one of the best in the country. Here it is expected that if you shoot it, you eat it.

sub.theory

(652 posts)
26. Can he be extradited for this?
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 03:19 PM
Jul 2015

I hope they send him back to Zimbabwe and he serves prison time. What a disgusting human being.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
38. Sport hunting should be banned, especially for endangered animals.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jul 2015

Either eat it, donate it or don't fucking kill it.

End of discussion.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
45. yup
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:09 PM
Jul 2015

No one eats lions. And unless it's kill or be killed there's no conceivable reason for it. "Sport" is not a good enough reason.

Paladin

(28,266 posts)
42. 40 HOURS between the arrow shooting and when the lion was finished off with a rifle shot.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 06:59 PM
Jul 2015

40 fucking hours of suffering, just so this prick could get his picture taken with the lion's corpse, and have its head mounted on a wall in his house. God damn all trophy hunters.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
44. PLEASE don't forget the outfitters
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:04 PM
Jul 2015

That lured the lion out of the park. This guy was the addict and they were the pushers.

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