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pancha

(20 posts)
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 03:57 PM Jul 2015

"Outrage" That "Exploited" AT&T CEO Got Only $75 Million on retirement - Former GOP Senator

Can't make this stuff up, folks:

Phil Gramm, a former three-term Republican senator from Texas who once ran the Senate Banking Committee, told the House Financial Services Committee yesterday that “it was an outrage” that his friend Edward Whitacre, the CEO of AT&T, only got “$75 million” when he retired in 2007.

“If there’s ever been an exploited worker” it was Whitacre, said Gramm.

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"Outrage" That "Exploited" AT&T CEO Got Only $75 Million on retirement - Former GOP Senator (Original Post) pancha Jul 2015 OP
Oh, the poor baby! I think all of them get too damn much and we the people are start correcting this Stargazer99 Jul 2015 #1
Maybe he should mercuryblues Jul 2015 #2
how about "first one with their KatyMan Jul 2015 #3
Worked with the Ceaucescus. hifiguy Jul 2015 #28
How many workers had to be laid off and exploited? lpbk2713 Jul 2015 #4
Phil Gramm? Octafish Jul 2015 #5
he is one of those people most responcible SoLeftIAmRight Jul 2015 #11
After helping plan (or letting happen) the crime, Gramm drove the getaway car. Octafish Jul 2015 #14
Thanks Octafish 1norcal Jul 2015 #27
Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2015 #47
+1. 'It's bigotry, bigotry against the successful! He was exploited, it's an outrage!' appalachiablue Jul 2015 #50
Let's not forget ... staggerleem Jul 2015 #19
Thank you for reminding me. Phil ''fixed'' that with his wife, Wendy Gramm, didn't he? Octafish Jul 2015 #22
Yeah - Wendy was an Enron Board member! staggerleem Aug 2015 #79
Yep. And he was McCain's "financial advisor" during the 2008 campaign. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2015 #58
OMG Dopers_Greed Jul 2015 #62
I fully believe that was the day that he lost the Presidency. staggerleem Aug 2015 #80
Surely not the Bill Clinton that is the husband of the annointed Hillary? erronis Jul 2015 #20
I heard it on Fox noise. Octafish Jul 2015 #25
Yep, republicans love to point out that Bill Clinton SIGNED the bill repealing Trailrider1951 Jul 2015 #42
Treasury Secretary Larry Summers supported it, and talked Bill Clinton into signing it. Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2015 #69
S&L's 4Q2u2 Jul 2015 #61
Holy shit! If that site does not illustrate the merger of corporation and State........ newthinking Jul 2015 #63
Oh Octa, that's going to ruffle a few feathers! Raster Aug 2015 #68
kicking n/t Hotler Jul 2015 #6
I've come to the conclusion these 1%ers seriously don't get it. jalan48 Jul 2015 #7
Approaching? I see Marie in their rearview mirror eating their dust. KnR. nt tblue37 Jul 2015 #32
LOL-Let them eat McDonalds! jalan48 Jul 2015 #34
Talk about your sense of entitlement! Pharaoh Jul 2015 #8
All I can say is.... Initech Jul 2015 #9
And... SoapBox Jul 2015 #10
World's tiniest violin playing just for the AT&T CEO. Initech Jul 2015 #53
Ordinary people are lucky if the end of their jobs includes two-weeks notice. NT Eric J in MN Jul 2015 #12
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." neeksgeek Jul 2015 #13
Not the Onion? TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #15
I'm sure fucktard is totally OK that many of that guys ee retired with next to nothing. lark Jul 2015 #16
Of course I am only a nurse timdog44 Jul 2015 #17
I'll take dementia if it puts $75M in my bank and a will to donate to good causes. erronis Jul 2015 #21
Was he (Gramm) working on commission? Solly Mack Jul 2015 #18
Really? Jean Genie Jul 2015 #23
They really are hifiguy Jul 2015 #24
They really are. Talk about disconnected from the real world. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #70
Where's the outrage for the rest of us, Mr. Gramm? mwooldri Jul 2015 #26
Per An Article I Read Here At DU. . . ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #31
And he actually got double that, anyway. DirkGently Jul 2015 #29
He said that with a straight face? truebrit71 Jul 2015 #30
His retirement package includes "free health insurance for life" for himself and his family. Eric J in MN Jul 2015 #33
. ctsnowman Aug 2015 #71
Jeez, sounds like something straight outta the Onion. nt MrScorpio Jul 2015 #35
Phil, you are delusional and delirious. We can no longer listen to these crazy-makers. Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #36
I know a conservative that believes republicans are the ones that fight for the little guy.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #37
Poor man. How can he eke out an existence on a pittance like $75 million? Vinca Jul 2015 #38
Not the Onion? Really? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #39
Phil is one of many truly disgusting sulphurdunn Jul 2015 #40
My sentiments, exactly... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2015 #48
That's the same Phil Graham The Wizard Jul 2015 #41
When every woman in America has been so "outraged", then we can rest Demeter Jul 2015 #43
he dresses up like Thatcher on weekends olddots Jul 2015 #44
Another conservative... americannightmare Jul 2015 #45
OFFS ...cried in a river and it was still dry. L0oniX Jul 2015 #46
Phil Gramm is a scumbag dem in texas Jul 2015 #49
LMAO PatrickforO Jul 2015 #51
Never enough Diremoon Jul 2015 #52
Phil Gramm is an outrage. nt silvershadow Jul 2015 #54
K&R Scuba Jul 2015 #55
And Gramm has been peddling that line for years! CBHagman Jul 2015 #56
He needs to be checked for lead poisoning. bluedigger Jul 2015 #57
Beyond absurd. moondust Jul 2015 #59
If Edward spends $1M/year for the rest of his life, he will die very rich. nt NCjack Jul 2015 #60
I started working when I was 18 awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #64
What an jackass! nt wolfie001 Jul 2015 #65
Is this a joke? Because the real outrage is the Gramm-Leach_Bliley Act that valerief Jul 2015 #66
Phil Gramm- and he's serious!?! appalachiablue Jul 2015 #67
I'd accept 1/100th of that as a pension and consider myself lucky. Exilednight Aug 2015 #72
Graham also said in 2008 that dobleremolque Aug 2015 #73
Fuck louis-t Aug 2015 #74
But the service ATT gives doesn't outrage him? Phil Graham outrages me. marble falls Aug 2015 #75
Business and Political corruption polynomial Aug 2015 #78
What planet does Phil Gramm come from? tartan2 Aug 2015 #76
Poor guy should have invested more in his 401K Orrex Aug 2015 #77

mercuryblues

(14,526 posts)
2. Maybe he should
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 05:51 PM
Jul 2015

set him p a gofundme page. FFS. Remember this was at a time when hundreds of thousands of families lost jobs, homes, everything.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Phil Gramm?
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 06:14 PM
Jul 2015

The modern day Meyer Lansky of the War Party, that Phil Gramm?

Phil Gramm's now vice chairman of Swiss bank UBS where he works in "Wealth Management" with Bill Clinton, that Phil Gramm?

How were they to know that repealing Glass-Steagall would lead to trillions in losses for the US taxpayer? That Phil Gramm. That Bill Clinton.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. After helping plan (or letting happen) the crime, Gramm drove the getaway car.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jul 2015

UBS is an offshore tax haven trusted by millionaires and billionaires to manage their wealth.

Yet, for some reason, the DoJ can't get a conviction.

In a big setback to the IRS’s juggernaut against tax evasion and offshore accounts, a former top UBS banker has been acquitted of tax evasion. The U.S. charged Raoul Weil with conspiracy to defraud the U.S. government. The former exec was facing five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, and is the highest-ranking Swiss banker prosecuted in the U.S. crackdown. But now he gets to go home to Switzerland.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/11/03/top-ubs-banker-not-guilty-of-tax-evasion-big-blow-to-offshore-crackdown/


Which is weird, when considering the facts of the case.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
47. Yep...
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:24 PM
Jul 2015

... I wonder if he was held for questioning concerning his, "gardening after midnight", activities while in the Senate.

See post #19 below this post, "THAT", one was inserted into a bill after midnight, when all others in the Senate were in bed or otherwise occupied. They never even seen the insertion before voting on it hours later.

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
50. +1. 'It's bigotry, bigotry against the successful! He was exploited, it's an outrage!'
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:36 PM
Jul 2015



~ Capitalism is the legitimate racket of the ruling class. ~ Al Capone
 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
19. Let's not forget ...
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:12 PM
Jul 2015

... that Phil Gramm is also responsible for the Commodities Futures Modernization Act, which has led directly to the 17 TRILLION dollar market for derivatives, the very soul of today's "Casino Capitalist" economy. Wealth built on debt - yeah, that's what this country (and this world) need more of, right?

WRONG!

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
79. Yeah - Wendy was an Enron Board member!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:06 PM
Aug 2015

Pillow talk can be VERY influential. Just ask Clarence Thomas.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,318 posts)
58. Yep. And he was McCain's "financial advisor" during the 2008 campaign.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 08:57 AM
Jul 2015

He called the people talking about the economy collapsing before our eyes "a bunch of whiners"

McCain played along with "all is well" - until he couldn't anymore. Then he suspended his campaign and flew back to Washington to "help fix" the crisis he denied existed just days before.

What a joke. A sick fucking joke, but still a joke.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
80. I fully believe that was the day that he lost the Presidency.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:15 PM
Aug 2015

He was scheduled to appear on Letterman that night. He lied to Dave & said he had to jump on a plane & fly to DC to "fix this mess", but it turned out that his destination was really a mere 4 blocks from the Ed Sullivan Theater. He went to appear on Katie Couric's newscast - and Dave found out about it, and showed a live clip of Gramps in Katie's Green room after his monologue.

Then he DID go back to DC ... and in a week of meetings, in and out of committees, he spoke NOT ONE WORD! Oh, yeah, McCain knew how to "fix things" alright!

erronis

(15,216 posts)
20. Surely not the Bill Clinton that is the husband of the annointed Hillary?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:15 PM
Jul 2015

What a strange coincidence that so many honest and upright people share names with the folks that put the banking system (and the taxpayers) into the downward spiral.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
69. Treasury Secretary Larry Summers supported it, and talked Bill Clinton into signing it.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 06:42 AM
Aug 2015

Larry Summers was simply wrong when he supported it. I personally know an economist who quit his job at the Treasury Department because he disagreed with Summers to his face on Gramm-Leach-Bliley. According to him, a couple of years ago, he ran into Summers and said "I fucking told you so!" And you cannot sneer at Clinton for following the advice of his Treasury Secretary.

The fact remains that Gramm-Leach-Bliley was a Republican plan, written by a Republican senator, and it was a dismal failure.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
61. S&L's
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jul 2015

They new it would work so well because it worked great the last time they ran this scam
1. Have Dem President stupidly sign deregulation, so they can claim clean hands.
2. Wait for a Bush to be in the White House and steal whatever you can, they cry TOO BIG TOO FAIL.
3. Get bailed out and make money from the bail out.


You know that hands off maket setting kind of Capitalism.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
63. Holy shit! If that site does not illustrate the merger of corporation and State........
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:56 PM
Jul 2015

Once a president and their staff are finished they manage wealth for the elite. Amazing!

Not just Clinton and Gramm, but GW Bush and cabinet members.

There is a greed infection in modern democracy. We have spread this thinking throughout the world. Most every leader is looking to get rich. We bribe new leaders through this revolving door even in other countries to do the bidding of our elite. Then people are shocked when we learn how leaders could not wait for their millions and instead directly steal it.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
68. Oh Octa, that's going to ruffle a few feathers!
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 05:29 AM
Aug 2015

Oh yeah, THAT fucking Phil Gramm. Butt-boy for anything with a BIG bank balance. There are NO WORDS, however, sell-out, scumbag and sociopath do come to mind. You know, the usual evil rethuglican trifecta.

jalan48

(13,852 posts)
7. I've come to the conclusion these 1%ers seriously don't get it.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jul 2015

I think they are approaching Marie Antoinette level.

lark

(23,078 posts)
16. I'm sure fucktard is totally OK that many of that guys ee retired with next to nothing.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jul 2015

They had to spend every dime they made on sheer survival.

God, how I hate these entitled rich assholes.

AT&T Chairman, having devalued his company greatly, should have retired with nothing as a result of the harm he brought the company during his tenure.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
17. Of course I am only a nurse
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jul 2015

but I sense a lot of dementia here.
I wonder if he thinks he should get some of that $75,000,000

Jean Genie

(273 posts)
23. Really?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jul 2015

Really? Getting seventy five million was an outrage? And yet so many of these "privileged people" whine and moan that a $15 per hour minimum wage is too high. I'm speechless; I despair for all of humanity.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
24. They really are
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:29 PM
Jul 2015

BEGGING for the guillotines, aren't they?

It would be impolite to not oblige them.

mwooldri

(10,302 posts)
26. Where's the outrage for the rest of us, Mr. Gramm?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jul 2015

It's an outrage that a whole lot of us don't even get anywhere near close to $75 million USD on retiring from work.

The only way any of us would ever see a retirement income close to $75MM USD is if the USA had a bout of hyperinflation. I somehow don't see that in my future.

ProfessorGAC

(64,951 posts)
31. Per An Article I Read Here At DU. . .
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:46 PM
Jul 2015

. . .2 or 3 weeks ago, that's something like 1000 times more than half the people over 50 have saved for retirement so far.

I don't remember the exact figures, but it was something like that. Half of everybody over 50 had $75,000 or less in savings for retirement.

So, half the working population over 50 has 0.1% or less, but this is an outrage to Gramm. I have that right, correct?

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
29. And he actually got double that, anyway.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:37 PM
Jul 2015
Whitacre actually received a retirement package totaling $158 million.


Holy distorted reality fields, there Phil.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
33. His retirement package includes "free health insurance for life" for himself and his family.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 03:24 PM
Jul 2015

Also, using a "corporate jet for 10 hours a month and $25,000 to cover his country-club fees."

http://money.cnn.com/2007/04/27/news/newsmakers/att_whitacre/

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
37. I know a conservative that believes republicans are the ones that fight for the little guy....
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:37 PM
Jul 2015

I told him about this and he said "Republicans fight for Wall Street and Democrats fight for the banks."

He believes fighting for Wall Street is fighting for the little guy because, free market = freedom = anti-government = freedom = mom and apple pie = freedom.

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
38. Poor man. How can he eke out an existence on a pittance like $75 million?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jul 2015

Sad. There goes the yacht and vacation homes #4 and #5.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
40. Phil is one of many truly disgusting
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jul 2015

pigs to serve as a republican senator who should be doing time in a federal pen. How is it that such a criminal swine is invited to run his whinny mouth at a congressional hearing?

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
41. That's the same Phil Graham
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:35 PM
Jul 2015

Ph.D. in Economics who said Clinton's fiscal policies would cause a depression. Yeah right, I believe him.

dem in texas

(2,673 posts)
49. Phil Gramm is a scumbag
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:05 PM
Jul 2015

When he was in office, he would fight anything that helped Texas, then try to take credit for it when it was approved. He was in the pocket of the health care industry. He and his wife sat on the board on Inron while the company was being looted, but never spoke out. You can be sure that they got their got their fat checks for serving on the board. Worst US senator from Texas ever, never represented the Texas people, only represented banks, health care business and himself.

PatrickforO

(14,566 posts)
51. LMAO
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:56 PM
Jul 2015

Listen, Phil, if there EVER were exploited workers, it's the people who work for maybe $14 per hour in ATT's phone centers, or maybe the people who work their asses off in the ATT retail outlets.

I mean, you've gotta be kidding me!!!!!

Diremoon

(86 posts)
52. Never enough
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:15 AM
Jul 2015

I guess this answers the question of how much is too much. For them (the rich), there is no such thing as too much. When Gordon Gekko said " Greed is good" they took it as the meaning of their lives.

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
56. And Gramm has been peddling that line for years!
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 08:48 AM
Jul 2015

During a search for video of the comments, I found this 2008 piece from Frank Rich.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/opinion/20rich.html?pagewanted=print&_r=0[/url]

Mr. McCain’s fiscal ineptitude has received so little scrutiny in some press quarters that his chief economic adviser, the former Senator Phil Gramm of Texas, got a free pass until the moment he self-immolated on video by whining about “a nation of whiners.” The McCain-Gramm bond, dating back 15 years, is more scandalous than Mr. Obama’s connection with his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Mr. McCain has been so dependent on Mr. Gramm for economic policy that he sent him to newspaper editorial board meetings, no doubt to correct the candidate’s numbers much as Joe Lieberman cleans up after his confusions of Sunni and Shia.

Just two weeks before publicly sharing his thoughts about America’s “mental recession,” Mr. Gramm laid out equally incendiary views in a Wall Street Journal profile that portrayed him as “almost certainly” the McCain choice for Treasury secretary. Mr. Gramm said that the former chief executive of AT&T, Ed Whitacre, was “probably the most exploited worker in American history” since he received only a $158 million pay package rather than the “billions” he deserved for his success in growing Southwestern Bell.

But no one in the news media seemed to notice Mr. Gramm’s naked expression of the mind-set he’d bring to a McCain White House. And few journalists have vetted the presumptive Treasury secretary’s post-Senate history as an executive at UBS. The stock of that banking giant has lost 70 percent of its value in a year after its reckless adventures in the subprime lending market. It’s now fending off federal investigation for helping the megarich avoid taxes.


Treasury secretary! Just imagine that one...

moondust

(19,966 posts)
59. Beyond absurd.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:32 AM
Jul 2015

Can't we give the poor predator a tax break or something to help ease his pain? Better yet, let's just write him a check on the U.S. Treasury for whatever he thinks he's worth. K?

So sad.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
64. I started working when I was 18
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 05:04 PM
Jul 2015

so, figure I will have 50 years of working. In all that time I probably will not have made 1/10th that. Fuck Whitacre and Gramm

dobleremolque

(489 posts)
73. Graham also said in 2008 that
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 04:57 PM
Aug 2015

it was only a "mental recession", and that we had become a "nation of whiners." Well. Don't we have full citizenship in that nation, Phil? Whining about $75 or whining about $75 million is still whining.

polynomial

(750 posts)
78. Business and Political corruption
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 10:52 AM
Aug 2015


The genie is out of the bottle, these articles in DU expose the massive collection of crimes done by political hackers that are criminals, social terrorists, and rogue government officials, so called businessmen, Congressmen and Senators subverting legislation to profiteer all the while expanding risk and uncertainty to the American tax payer.

These DU articles must persist and reappear until the mainstream media with an honest passion starts to expose this failed part of America.

Maintaining silence is not going to make these events go way, it makes them worse, empowering bad actors to operate with impunity.

Rather than putting the political perpetrators head on a stick we need to use today’s technology to place the face of this political criminal corruption daily relentlessly on the news television screen.

To identify the real identity thieves who steal, especially those politicians secretly or without open force, ear mark, redact or amend legislation, or reports for profiteering, that is Bush Crime Inc.

AT&T paying million dollar pension to the CEO in cushy offices shows a nature of resilience of what Bush economics really is. Stiff the poor sole that works in the sewer cabling, or the mainframe testing and connecting telephones in difficult environments.

A few month ago I installed U-verse AT&T premier computer data line.

Get this, the new thing is no contract is signed, and the billing started to come in late, so I started to get late charges.

After or advertisement connection it seems it does not matter what the customer thinks you have to pay what they want.

Plus it will now cost me one hundred and eighty dollars to disconnect, some can argue that is the so called resilience.

Again thanks to Octafish for the article about the Bush Harriman connection.

There was a time of my own personal experience in Harriman’s Union Pacific railroad that I cannot let go and forget.

Many management officials in the Union Pacific Railroad used the basic safety program as a tool for retaliation and retribution to convolute injury reports. From my view a criminal action that needs to be addressed.

Currently waiting for the Department of Labor determination, if this determination is in my favor, I know it will have an effect to improve Health Care and Services and Recovery in the transportation industry throughout the nation.


Orrex

(63,185 posts)
77. Poor guy should have invested more in his 401K
Mon Aug 3, 2015, 09:33 AM
Aug 2015

I hope he's able to struggle by on that miserable 8-figure pittance.

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