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spanone

(135,795 posts)
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:32 PM Jul 2015

Indiana clears Planned Parenthood of wrongdoing after videos

nice try pence....shit for brains


Indiana on Thursday cleared Planned Parenthood facilities that perform abortions in the state of any wrongdoing in the handling of fetal tissue.

Gov. Mike Pence, a Republican, on July 16 ordered an investigation of Planned Parenthood facilities in Indianapolis, Bloomington and Merrillville to see if organs from aborted fetuses were being sold. He was among a number of conservative lawmakers around the country who have called for investigations after an anti-abortion group circulated a video it made secretly showing some of its national officials discussing how they obtain organs from aborted fetuses for research. Planned Parenthood, the nation’s largest provider of abortions, has said its donations of fetal tissue for research are legal.

The Indiana Department of Health said in a statement Thursday that an investigation found no evidence of any laws being broken. Health department inspectors investigated the Indiana facilities on July 21.

Letters from the health department to the three Indiana facilities dated Tuesday and released to the media by Planned Parenthood said the agency had completed its investigation into the Planned Parenthood facilities that perform abortions in Indiana. The letters said the agency was “unable to find any non-compliance with state regulations. Therefore, no deficiencies were cited.” The letters say the complaint is closed.


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/planned-parenthood-wrongdoing-indiana
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Indiana clears Planned Parenthood of wrongdoing after videos (Original Post) spanone Jul 2015 OP
K&R for truth. LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #1
whow I am surprised the investigation was doen so riversedge Jul 2015 #2
Pence was just trying to win back the fundies' support... Contrary1 Jul 2015 #5
Anyone believing PP is selling "baby parts" is a complete idiot. Anyone trying to score political Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #3
gov pence was an ass when he was in the house spanone Jul 2015 #4
"Baby parts" sounds so scary (and evil)! Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #15
The Exempt Clause in the Law..... cynzke Jul 2015 #18
Nonsense. ACORN. Convicted felon James O'Keefe. RW Echo Chamber. GOP operatives. Distorted videos.Get it? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #19
Good Hekate Jul 2015 #6
In Indiana no less. calimary Jul 2015 #7
Three facilities in this whole stupid state. And two of those, kas125 Jul 2015 #8
Like WI--they have been widdled down riversedge Jul 2015 #11
The Christian extremists have shut down most pro-life abortion clinics...all of PP is next on Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #22
Merriville wow DVRacer Jul 2015 #16
You are misinformed. Indydem Jul 2015 #23
Kick oasis Jul 2015 #9
idiots don't need the facts IcyPeas Jul 2015 #10
That's because that douchebag asshole weasel James O'Keefe was behind those videos LynneSin Jul 2015 #12
Excellent and exactly. Where is the investigation of the distorted video makers? What happened to Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #17
Kick libodem Jul 2015 #13
Considering that Indiana PP doesn't do the fetal tissue donation Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2015 #14
Of course, Pence's only purpose is to keep the false story in the news caraher Jul 2015 #20
Leaving a Big Lie unchallenged worked out well for ACORN, as I recall...maybe my memory fails... Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #21
Oh, I didn't mean to say this kind of lie needs to be unchallenged caraher Jul 2015 #24
Whack the mother mole, not just the hordes of mini-moles produced by the malicious source of the distorted videos. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #25
Suck on that you fake religious cons. lark Jul 2015 #26
This won't stop it... RecoveringJournalist Jul 2015 #27
FROM KANSAS...FBI DEBUNKS PR0-LIFE VIDEO cynzke Aug 2015 #28

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
5. Pence was just trying to win back the fundies' support...
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:10 AM
Jul 2015

They tore him a new one when he had to back peddle on his religious freedom fiasco.

I would wager that he was hoping that the accusations against PP were true, so he could don his white hat and become their hero again.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. Anyone believing PP is selling "baby parts" is a complete idiot. Anyone trying to score political
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 11:57 PM
Jul 2015

points off such a obvious Big Lie should be impeached or prohibited from running for office, such folks are not worthy.

"The complaint is closed" but the complaining and propagandizing will not end until Fox orders it to end.

But this time there has to be consequences for malicious defamation.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
15. "Baby parts" sounds so scary (and evil)!
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:58 AM
Jul 2015

which is basically what they want to get out of people- an emotional response so that people will say, "OMG we must defund Planned Parenthood immediately!" Conveniently, right before next year's election.........

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
18. The Exempt Clause in the Law.....
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jul 2015

Allowing to NEGOTIATE and collect reimbursement fees LEGALLY gives abortion providers that power. Lets be honest, because they have that legal authority, what clinic ISN'T GOING TO TRY to get as much as possible. Nothing in the law prohibits providers from NEGOTIATING fees and there is no specified limits other than the term "REASONABLE". So NO MATTER how these videos PORTRAY these discussions, PP has the legal defense they are NEGOTIATING reimbursements fees. What is RELEVANT is what the law says. PP is operating from the technical provision of the law. Pro-life groups and people opposed to abortions look at this emotionally and can not understand that despite what they think and feel, THERE IS NO TECHNICAL BREAKING OF THE LAW.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
19. Nonsense. ACORN. Convicted felon James O'Keefe. RW Echo Chamber. GOP operatives. Distorted videos.Get it?
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jul 2015

Did I mention your comment is utter nonsense?

Does "dead baby parts" make you queasy? How about "preserved fetal human stem cell tissue"? More comfy now?

All comfy now over the female medical specialists at PP, like thousands of human tissue donation medical facilities all over the world, being reimbursed 20 bucks for transport of highly perishable human tissue?

For life-saving medical research. Approved by Republicans and made into law. To save lives. Did you know where these medical specimens end up and what they are used for?

Pro-birth, not pro-life, indeed.

kas125

(2,472 posts)
8. Three facilities in this whole stupid state. And two of those,
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:09 AM
Jul 2015

Indianapolis and Bloomington, are pretty close to each other, in the middle of Indiana. Merrillville, where I live, is in the very NW corner and is a suburb of Chicago. In the rest of the state, women are out of luck when it comes to finding a clinic they can go to.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
22. The Christian extremists have shut down most pro-life abortion clinics...all of PP is next on
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jul 2015

the Holy Rollers hit list.

Bonus for these low-brow self-made victims of religious zealotry and Fox propaganda....poor black women will suffer the most.

It is all, to me, pure secular evil driven by self-loathing and a pathological clinging to the baked-in victimhood mentality of all religious zealots, all just to give meaning to their otherwise utterly empty and meaningless time on the planet.

Was there ever a better cloaking device invented for evil than the blanket of victimhood?

I say that in a tone of pity more than anger.

DVRacer

(707 posts)
16. Merriville wow
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:19 AM
Jul 2015

Who all do you know works for Magic Circle aka Dixie Chopper? My grandfathers store was their largest dealer here in Oklahoma for years I have been there 3 times and loved the area. I stayed at the airport one time before going to a Colts game that they took us to. It was so small of an airport to have rooms to stay in.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
23. You are misinformed.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:12 PM
Jul 2015

There are other clinics, including one in Fort Wayne and South Bend. There are others as well.

There are other providers besides PP.

PP also has other locations that do not perform abortions.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. That's because that douchebag asshole weasel James O'Keefe was behind those videos
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:12 AM
Jul 2015

This scum of existance that wastes valuable oxygen could take any video, like your own kid's birthday, and edited to make it look like the kids wanted to buy herion from bitcoin traders on the silk highway who would use the money to start a sex school to fund terrorists in developing third world nations.

That's what O'Keefe does.

If his name is associated with any of these videos they are a scam and should be discarded immediately. What he did to ACORN was criminal and he should be behind jail for slander.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. Excellent and exactly. Where is the investigation of the distorted video makers? What happened to
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:20 AM
Jul 2015

verifying your source?

This is utter madness by the GOP and the media and so many politicians either pretending it is not or not paying enough attention to the details or history.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
14. Considering that Indiana PP doesn't do the fetal tissue donation
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jul 2015

I'm totally shocked (not that anything is going on with PP anyway)!


caraher

(6,278 posts)
20. Of course, Pence's only purpose is to keep the false story in the news
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jul 2015

These people aren't stupid, they're evil. They know that even when the message is "this is not happening," just repeating the charge strengthens the subconscious link in people's minds between Planned Parenthood and the selling of organs.

This is a generic dilemma for debunkers, psychologically - you can carefully explain why a bogus story is bogus, but the act of debunking itself often lends the story more cognitive salience than it deserves - or might have had were it left unchallenged.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
24. Oh, I didn't mean to say this kind of lie needs to be unchallenged
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:09 PM
Jul 2015

Where it gets tricky is playing whack-a-mole about something like climate change denial. But lies about the integrity of an organization are different.

But the common element is that repetition is psychologically powerful, even when what is being repeated is acknowledged not to be true.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
25. Whack the mother mole, not just the hordes of mini-moles produced by the malicious source of the distorted videos.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jul 2015
27. This won't stop it...
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 09:07 PM
Jul 2015

This will not stop Gov. Dense and his extremist friends. They'll find a way to keep it alive (so to speak).

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
28. FROM KANSAS...FBI DEBUNKS PR0-LIFE VIDEO
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 08:40 AM
Aug 2015

Here is a story about Pro-life harassing PP and vendors in Kansas and filming a hack video outside a clinic. The FBI investigated and cleared all parties.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2015/jul/23/kansas-ban-profiting-fetal-tissue-sales-spotlight/

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