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irisblue

(33,023 posts)
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 04:48 PM Aug 2015

If Schumer won't be Minority Leader, who do you think it should be?

Dick Durbin(Illinios) is the assistant Democratic Leader. Patrick Leahey(Vermont) is the President Pro Tempore Emeritus. Patty Murray(Washington) is Secretary of the Conference .

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If Schumer won't be Minority Leader, who do you think it should be? (Original Post) irisblue Aug 2015 OP
Dick Durbin One of the 99 Aug 2015 #1
Whoever needs to be good at knowing and using Senate rules. But frankly... Tom Rinaldo Aug 2015 #2
I didn't see this, thanks for the info. irisblue Aug 2015 #5
Dick Durbin. nt City Lights Aug 2015 #3
Of course it should be Durbin hedda_foil Aug 2015 #9
this is not a hit & run post, I need to go do stuff for a couple of hours. irisblue Aug 2015 #4
Leahy would be great. DeadLetterOffice Aug 2015 #6
Murray, Durbin, or just to fuck things up, Elizabeth Warren. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #7
I think it's more like:"if Schumer CAN'T be the majority leader;" Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #8
Bernie caucuses with the Dems but is still an (I) KamaAina Aug 2015 #18
I move that we SUSPEND THE RULES. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #20
Sanders said he supports Schumer for dem leader JI7 Aug 2015 #43
If he is elected again: Russ Feingold n/t sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #10
Al Franken would be wonderful stuffmatters Aug 2015 #11
yes. franken would be excellent. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #13
Yes! I love Franken. smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #41
+1 Go Vols Aug 2015 #46
Pat Leahy or Sherrod Brown? choie Aug 2015 #12
Warren or Franken. We need new(-ish) blood in leadership roles. nt appal_jack Aug 2015 #14
If those are my three choices, I'll go with Durbin. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #15
There are more listed in Dem leadership , http://democrats.senate.gov/leadership/ irisblue Aug 2015 #31
In that case, I'll take Stabenow. It's time a woman was in charge. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #34
Warren, Leahy, Sherrod Brown, Franken or Whitehouse; any one will do - n/t mazzarro Aug 2015 #16
I vote for Murray Evergreen Emerald Aug 2015 #17
dick Durbin who I preferred long before this karynnj Aug 2015 #19
Leahey 1st choice, Durbin 2nd choice if those are the only choices. 2banon Aug 2015 #21
no you didn't miss any news. A lot of people are pissed @ him. You know what happens irisblue Aug 2015 #32
thanks. Been away, wondered if this was wishful thinking.. which it is for me! 2banon Aug 2015 #39
Elizabeth Warren would be the dream candidate. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #22
Schumer's downfall over this issue is merely the wishful thinking of his pre-existing opponents. tritsofme Aug 2015 #23
Stop making sense! MADem Aug 2015 #27
+1 840high Aug 2015 #35
Mitch McConnel dsc Aug 2015 #24
LOL & point taken! irisblue Aug 2015 #33
My dream would be Elizabeth Warren, BUT maxrandb Aug 2015 #25
I would say no to Warren and here's why LynneSin Aug 2015 #29
He will be, though. nt MADem Aug 2015 #26
Durbin Historic NY Aug 2015 #28
Elizabeth Warren, but it won't happen. Durbin, probably still_one Aug 2015 #30
Dick Durbin oasis Aug 2015 #36
Not a DINO hobbit709 Aug 2015 #37
Durbin because repubs seem to have a tough time working with guys from IL. craigmatic Aug 2015 #38
great thread oldandhappy Aug 2015 #40
I love Patty Murray. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #42
Every last one of those individuals voted for DOMA and represent all I dislike about this Party Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #44
Durbin. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #45
Jeff Merkley MurrayDelph Aug 2015 #47
The filibuster will go the next time the GOP control the White House and the Congress. StevieM Aug 2015 #48

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
2. Whoever needs to be good at knowing and using Senate rules. But frankly...
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 04:53 PM
Aug 2015

Anyone who a majority of those voting with the Democratic caucus can unite around to prevent Schumer from becoming leader works for me. Any of those you listed at this point would be fine. Whoever has the relationships to get the votes. I can not any loner abide by the thought of Chuck Schumer leading the Democrats in the Senate, period.

But having said that, I support a draft Durbin movement: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027053950

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
9. Of course it should be Durbin
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 05:08 PM
Aug 2015

Two potential issues, though:

1. I think he's planning to retire by his next election, and

2. He is one of Schumer's housemates in a DC townhouse owned by Schumer. So that could be uncomfortable.

Not insurmountable barriers, but potentially problematic.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. Murray, Durbin, or just to fuck things up, Elizabeth Warren.
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 05:02 PM
Aug 2015

Majority leader doesn't need to be senior.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
8. I think it's more like:"if Schumer CAN'T be the majority leader;"
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 05:07 PM
Aug 2015

(He CAN'T, btw)....Therefore: Warren, Durbin. Leahy.

In that order. Open to suggestions.

Oh... needless to say.... SANDERS. If the other thing doesn't work out.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
18. Bernie caucuses with the Dems but is still an (I)
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 06:08 PM
Aug 2015

as far as the Senate goes. That could be problematic.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
11. Al Franken would be wonderful
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 05:17 PM
Aug 2015

Most Dems love him & lots of independents too. People pay attention when he speaks and "stay tuned" if they know he's coming up on tv.

irisblue

(33,023 posts)
31. There are more listed in Dem leadership , http://democrats.senate.gov/leadership/
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 08:48 PM
Aug 2015

I only listed those 3 b/c of their seniority in Dem Leadership positions. As much as I like Warren....knowing she would kick asses...I can't imagine a very new senator as minority leader. I didn't realize Stabenow has been in the Senate that long, but she has never seemed that publically/nationally outgoing.

The Senate Dems need an assertive, willing to be pushy, demanding and feisty in pursuing small d democratic principals as well as big Democratic party principals....channeling some FDR stealth would be good too.


Vice Chair of the Senate Democratic Policy and Communications Center

Debbie Stabenow – (D – MI)2001

Chair of Steering and Outreach Committee
Amy Klobuchar-(D-MN)2007 – Strategic Policy Advisor to the Senate Democratic Policy Committee

Elizabeth Warren – (D – MA)2013


Policy Development Adviser to the Senate Democratic Policy Committee

Mark Warner – (D – VA)2009


Chair of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee

Jon Tester – (D – MT) 2007
tester.senate.gov

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
19. dick Durbin who I preferred long before this
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 06:09 PM
Aug 2015

He is a fantastic voice for the Democrats, smart, honest and a soft spoken Midwesterner.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
21. Leahey 1st choice, Durbin 2nd choice if those are the only choices.
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 06:14 PM
Aug 2015

I'm aware of the brouhaha around Schumer's opposition to the Iran negotiations -

For the record, I've never been a big fan of Mr DLC Schumer, and most especially find his publically stated position on the Iran negotiations extremely egregious but even more, his remarks absolutely contemptible.

You won't find me crying in my beer if his shoulder tap for the Democratic Senate Leadership were to be rescinded. But my question at this juncture is: has the nod been rescinded? Or did Schumer threaten to bow out? Did I miss some important news in that regard?

irisblue

(33,023 posts)
32. no you didn't miss any news. A lot of people are pissed @ him. You know what happens
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 08:51 PM
Aug 2015

with pissed off people who are DU members....

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
39. thanks. Been away, wondered if this was wishful thinking.. which it is for me!
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:26 PM
Aug 2015

Haven't been a big of Schumer for years. This recent antics against the Iran agreement is certainly the final straw and should be for everyone else, imo.

tritsofme

(17,399 posts)
23. Schumer's downfall over this issue is merely the wishful thinking of his pre-existing opponents.
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 06:23 PM
Aug 2015

Schumer's support will not be determinative, the issue will have passed by next year, especially if Democrats retake the control of the Senate.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
29. I would say no to Warren and here's why
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 08:31 PM
Aug 2015

There is much compromise to the Majority/Minority leader position which puts them in a very hated seat. Of course what Schumer is doing isn't compromise but basically putting Israel ahead of the United States and that is bullshit!

As for Warren, I'd rather she not be in a position of compromise but a position where she can be a decider and a fighter. Majority/Minority position has never been that slot. But a leadership position such a committee chair would be great for Warren. She has earned it!

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
48. The filibuster will go the next time the GOP control the White House and the Congress.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 01:07 AM
Aug 2015

The Republicans made such a big deal about Harry Reid going nuclear, calling it "dictatorial." But they had effectively ended the filibuster under George Bush, at least for judges, by threatening to go nuclear. And under Obama filibuster's had reached an insane level, never before seen--or approached--in history, before they finally changed the rules.

The GOP won't miss a chance to get rid of Obamacare, or at least parts of it, if they are ever in control. They will go nuclear.

I suppose it's possible that a creative use of budget reconciliation might take the place of the nuclear option. I have always believed the the threat of this option is what got Joe Lieberman to grudgingly vote for the ACA, along with a belief that he would have a second chance to block it after it came back from conference. But then there was no conference, of course, and the House took the Senate bill word for word.

But at a certain point--like allowing drilling in ANWR--using budget reconciliation, where there is no real application, is really no different then going nuclear on the filibuster.

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