Chuck Schumer could lose his spot as the next Dem. Senate leader over Iran deal

[rsexaminer]

Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer has decided to vote against President Obama's Iran deal, and his decision could come back to haunt him.

http://www.examiner.com/article/chuck-schumer-could-lose-spot-as-senate-leader-for-bailing-on-obama-s-iran-deal

[Mass]

1. He should. But once again, I was never a big fan of himm becoming the leader to start with.

[spin]

2. At least he has principles and sticks to them. ...

That's more than most politicians.

[BillZBubb]

4. LOL.

It is not principled to follow the edicts of another country against the best interests of your own.

[spin]

9. I think that only nation that will benefit from this deal is Iran. ...

Iran will eventually get nuclear warheads and the means to deliver them.

Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey will also get nuclear weapons. You gotta keep up with the Joneses.

In my opinion nuclear proliferation in that area of the world will not work out well.

Of course Israel may try to take out Iran's nuclear facilities on their own or with Saudi Arabia. Again this may not work out well.

Of course it is possible that this was the best deal that Obama could have worked out and that war was the only alternative. If so, at least the war will be delayed for a while and with a lot of luck will never happen.

[KeepItReal]

11. Because lockdown sanctions and embargoes totally foiled North Korea nuke program

Oh wait... They didn't.

North Korea went nuclear on W's watch.

This deal incentivises Iran to NOT develop nukes.

Even if Iran goes rogue and starts up a program, so what? They'll have a nuke. That will sit in a bunker or on a launcher never to be used. Unless you think their leadership are a suicidal death cult.

I distinctly remember a CIA blurb before the '03 Iraq invasion that said even if Saddam had some actual WMD, he would *never* use them unless someone invaded Iraq first. He did not have a death wish.

[spin]

13. Some say that the leadership is indeed a suicidal death cult. ...

If they are right, that's the problem.

Much depends on their view of the 12th Imam and what is necessary to bring about his return.

It their leadership is not fanatical and merely uses religion as a means to control Iran, then things may work out well. If, however, the leadership feels they can help bring back the 12th Imam faster by destroying Israel they we are screwed by Obama's deal.

Imagine our nation being led by a fanatically religious individual who strongly believes in the Book of Revelation and Armageddon. His beliefs may influence his decisions on what to do in the Middle East. In passing there are rumors that Bush the Younger felt God talked with him and told him to invade Iraq.

(I could post links on the return of the 12 Imam or God talking with Bush the Younger but to me they are somewhat questionable. If you have any interest, they are easy to find with Google)

[KeepItReal]

14. Don't you remember Bush being Hell-bent on attacking Iran?

It took the Defense Department to abort that train of thought.

[spin]

16. Yes I do remember that. ...

I always felt Bush the Younger invaded Iraq so he could have bases located close to Iran. He planned to use those bases to launch his attack. Most people thought he invaded Iraq because of oil.

Unfortunately or fortunately (depending on how you look at it) occupying Iraq was far more difficult than he imagined. I personally am glad he was talked out of another invasion. Had he invaded Iran the nations in the area would have felt he had launched a crusade and possible united to fight us.

Bombing a nation rarely works. Instead of causing the citizens to overthrow their government it usually unites them to fight back. Invading Iran would have led to a much bigger disaster than the mess we currently have.

[BillZBubb]

3. That should be automatic--but it is the Democrats.

We tend to let guys like Schumer piss on us whenever they want.

[Tom Rinaldo]

5. If he doesn't it will have devestating effects on Democrats nationally

Talking about depressing the base doesn't capture it. It would be more like enraging the base.And it will extend to any Democratic Senator who votes for him as leader. Now is the time to start letting our Democratic Senators know how you feel about this. They need to get this message loud and clear right now.

[roody]

6. I hope so.

[chillfactor]

7. good....

I have never been a big fan of his anyway....

[Smarmie Doofus]

8. Counting on it. n/t

[emsimon33]

10. I will actively work against him!

I think that there are a lot of Americans, especially Democrats, who are sick and tired of Israel dictating American foreign policy. We do not need Lieberman Light in charge of Democrats in the Senate.

[LittleBlue]

12. Good. Nobody who voted for the IWR, not to mention his Iran warmongering, should be

majority leader. Utter farce that Schumer was ever considered for that role.

[ellie]

15. Good.

I never liked him.

[JCMach1]

17. SHOULD lose...

[City Lights]

18. I hope he does. He doesn't deserve the leadership role. nt

[MrMickeysMom]

19. Hope he does… eom

[herding cats]

20. If I have anything to say in it he will lose his spot.

I've been actively working toward this end. He's the wrong person for the job. We need more peace, not more wars in the ME.