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malaise

(269,157 posts)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 02:28 PM Aug 2015

Why can't M$Greedia include the British man who helped to

avert a slaughter on that train - why is it only the three Americans who are being covered on the American media. Geez- it was such a great thing that they did. Why can't we celebrate all four of them receiving the French honor?

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malaise

(269,157 posts)
4. Well they discovered that Sadler was not
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:09 PM
Aug 2015

a service member

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/24/chris-norman-describes-how-helped-overpower-french-train-gunman
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“I said to myself: ‘Well, don’t be the guy that just sits there and gets shot.’ So I was trying to work out what to do. [The gunman] was at the end of the carriage. I was hiding behind a seat and I was hoping that by doing that he wouldn’t be able to hit me immediately,” he said.

Norman noticed three young American friends leap up. “I heard one of the Americans say: ‘Go get him Spence.’ The other one said: ‘No, you don’t do that, buddy.’

“I thought great, somebody’s actually intervening, let me stand up because we’ve got much more chance as a team. Let’s go!”

“I just pounced on the gunman’s arm so that he couldn’t actually use it, and I held his arm to the ground,” Norman said. “We all held him until he stopped struggling.”

The Americans beat the gunman until he lost consciousness. “Alek had held the pistol to his head and said ‘Stop, stop,’ and that had no effect – he carried on struggling,” Norman said.

When the gunman began to lose consciousness, Skarlatos told Norman to hold down the man while he went to look for any other gunmen and Stone tended to a man who had been shot.

An off-duty French train driver travelling in the carriage held down the gunman’s other arm.

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See there were two others involved including the off duty driver - and a passenger.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
6. From that article:
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:19 PM
Aug 2015
Norman said he was “incredibly honoured” to receive the Légion d’honneur, but he felt the Americans had done most of the work.


Truly this is a conspiracy.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. Or simple humility
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:06 PM
Aug 2015

Truly this is a conspiracy.

Or simple humility. No doubt, that easily escapes the mind of many.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
8. IIRC correctly Satler just wasn't mentioned. It was "two Marines"
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:30 PM
Aug 2015

which turned out to be wrong too.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Americans must be spoonfed reality to keep the Superpower illusion alive.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:21 PM
Aug 2015

Otherwise it might disturb some of the American Exceptionalism we hear about.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. You gotta remember the M$M is a closed corporate system. Not to be confused with real reporting
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:38 PM
Aug 2015

when it was just ABC/CBS/NBC (and the sponsers were just a handful of companies with no control over the editing room) and black and white TVEE. Those days are as gone as regulated capitalism. Anyone that doesn't know or understand is a victim in a way. Those that do know and pretend otherwise are just fools to be ignored. Like UpChuck Todd...can there be any doubt NBC would rather die than let go of GOP closed media? And the rest follow suit while PBS still gets punished for being fairly unbiased. American mass media is a joke the world over.

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
19. In California they do. The 3 young men were childhood pals from Sacramento, so you can imagine ...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 06:48 PM
Aug 2015

... the home state pride we feel.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
14. I just saw Chris Norman interviewed on WGN.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:21 PM
Aug 2015

His names was mentioned along with the 3 Americans during the story, and I was pleased to see him interviewed. I haven't watched cable news in ages, but thought I'd share what my local news reported.

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
15. Really nice article in the Los Angeles Times today, pg A3
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:41 PM
Aug 2015

Those young men from California were really quick on the uptake, gutsy as hell.

One thing that really stands out is how much they are willing to spread the credit around. They not only mentioned the participation of the British businessman, but gave credit to the Frenchman who was the first to see the terrorist emerge from the bathroom and gave a big shout-out that alerted the rest of the passengers.

I felt so proud of them for everything.

I agree, it would be nice if the TV media would follow suit.

Sorry for no link,but as usual I'm reading the paper edition of the Times at my kitchen table -- and I still seem to have some difficulty copying and pasting with my iPad mini even if I pull it up online.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
17. Thanks Hekate
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 05:58 PM
Aug 2015

We should all be proud - it was a wonderful team effort and success. Wish they would all follow them.

I too have problems cutting and pasting from my IPad.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
18. You'd think they'd know better
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 06:01 PM
Aug 2015

I'm really getting worried about our so called press. If its not an arm of the rich jackasses then I don't know what the hay

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