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Sales for freeze-dried food, flashlights, blankets and tents have soared in Utah in recent weeks as some Mormons have begun to prepare for the end of the world. The so-called "preppers" believe the world is ending this month based on biblical prophecies, the Hebrew calendar, an unstable economy, world politics and astronomical occurrences, the Salt Lake Tribune reported Sunday.
There is a sense of urgency, like something is up. A lot of people are mentioning things about September, like a financial collapse," said customer-service representative Ricardo Aranda at American Forks Thrive Life, which sells mostly freeze-dried food.
The Mormon apocalypse believers claim the Jewish High Holy Days that began this week will trigger a financial crisis based on the United States wickedness. They predict the full moon on Sept. 28 is the next sign of the world is ending.
Some of these speculations stem from Julie Rowes books, A Greater Tomorrow: My Journey Beyond the Veil and The Time Is Now. Rowe, a Mormon mother of three, published the books in 2014 to detail a near-death experience." Her two books have sold more than 20,000 copies each.
Officials with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said they do not endorse the books or their teachings. The late Mormon apostle Boyd K. Packer said in a 2011 LDS General Conference that the end was not near and called on young Latter-day Saints to plan for long, productive lives.
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merrily
(45,251 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:57 AM - Edit history (1)
not then, very definitely by midnight on December 31.
Good times.
Same deal in 999 C.D, when people sold their homes and went to the Vatican to await the end of the world. And you thought you had a headache when you woke up January 1!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)It's part of their "self reliance" beliefs.
I knew a mormon family once, and they always had food on-hand for six months, 100 gallons of water, and all kind of self-reliance items, like seeds, water filters, gardening implements, etc. they weren't otherwise "preppers" that I know of.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I didn't know the seeds and garden tools were also part of the on-hand stock they kept. That's much more sensible, then.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)I've had Morman friends in the past and they always did that.
Actually I thought it might be a good idea.
xmas74
(29,676 posts)but the owner says it's mostly LDS who shop there-not for the end of the world but to keep supplies on hand for emergencies.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)has always required. What is happening because of theses books is prepper.
demwing
(16,916 posts)in almost every grocery store.
They are encouraged to keep a large supply of food and water stockpiled, and to rotate it out every few months. Many people have home gardens, and I miss the giant tomatoes and massive zucchinis that everyone would share. Self reliance is practiced, not just preached.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)They also use their bulk stock to help others during disasters. The Mormons were some of the first people after Katrina hit to pass out food and water.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)some other rightwingers think it's Game Over this month, but I read it was September 23 . (typo?) I hope they don't cash in their 401ks like the schmuck who spent his savings on NYC subway ads about armageddon 4 years ago - the world was supposed to end then too.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)I passed a discarded flyer/pamphlet on my way to the train this morning, and that was the headline. Now I wish I had picked it up to see if it was part of the pattern.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Was telling me she was scared about this being the end of the world and all this stuff about the stock market and 'if you read the Book of Revelation it looks like all they said is coming true. Poor kid. Shes really a lovely intelligent girl so I felt it my duty to tell her about the Book of Revelation and how its about as simple to interpret as Nostradamus quatrains and that she neednt worry.
I also discovered that she believed the bible was actually written by someone called god.
I always feel bad about telling people there is no Santa Claus, but I feel honor-bound to do it.
Oddly I had to lecture some of the kids who work for me about Jade Helm. They were sure it was going to happen.
Im always surprised young people can be this credulous.
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)Have much faith in being "raptured" then, do they?
matt819
(10,749 posts)And leave the rest of us in the reality based universe to get on with, you know, reality.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)hair coloring!) on hand at all times for the start of the Tribulation.
If the world ends, I'm just going with junk food and ice cream. What the hell.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I'll eat and drink all of the things my gout prevents me from doing now, enjoy some music, and then go out my own way. I'm not cut out to be Mad Max.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I am not that brave. I don't like liquor, so I can't get courage from a bottle, either.
Back against the wall, I might be able to eat Haagen Daz gelato until I explode, though.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)In nursing school, you learn about several mistakes that can taken a patient out verrry quickly. On the flip side, that means you learn how to take yourself out very quickly if you decide to. And I'm on the downhill slope of my time already, I know it comes to us all, and I can see how there could or will come a point where it's more welcome than to be feared.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Obviously, I'm just being flip. I hope it never gets to that point, either for all of us, or for you individually.
From a selfish standpoint, my empathy gland is way too overactive to tolerate the suffering of others well and I'd miss your posts like anything. They're the bomb (even though I'm pretty sure no one hip says "the bomb" anymore).
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I imagine even if my organs are in as bad a shape as I suspect, I've got a few more years in me. And I've got commitments I wouldn't 'welch' on that require me to hang around for a while.
merrily
(45,251 posts)You are a very special poster in so many ways, one I value very much. Whenever I see your name, I know I am about to see something wonderful. I wish there were a way we could "follow" a poster on DU.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)There was a period, spent mostly on DK, where I did my best not to say anything sarcastic to anyone, to treat each comment to which I replied with seriousness. Unfortunately, I notice I've taken up my old bad habits in responding to some commenters here.
merrily
(45,251 posts)But then, again, I am the dung of the devil. Pope Francis II.
So, don't go by me.
If it bothers you, I am confident you're strong enough to do something about it again. If it doesn't bother you and you're not cutting anyone off at the knees, I'm sorry I missed it. It was probably prime.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)No Haagen Daz Gelato! My addiction 😄
merrily
(45,251 posts)house made. Haagen Daz is my first choice. The chocolate cherry and salted caramel ones especially. But I don't have any in the freezer, so I am going to stop talking about it before my cravings do me in.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)safeinOhio
(32,719 posts)Totally ruined over frozen gelato and American coffee for me.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I missed my coffee but gelato? I ate that at least once a day Im starting to think my trips to Italy are nothing but a thinly-veiled gelato pilgrimage.
safeinOhio
(32,719 posts)almost had to try every one.
Pistachio.......yummmmm
Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)I'd double-down on the high-fat Haagen Daz. Soooo creamy.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)It does seem in many places it will be welcomed.
And science tells us that an end has already come a few times in the past, at least for that era of time worldwide.
Isn't this the month that we have two full moons, or did that pass already? The 2nd moon is called a "blue moon." Or did that pass without notice?
Archae
(46,345 posts)Lunar eclipses, when the moon turns red due to Earth's shadow.
Glenn Beck is all over this, of course, there are other would-be "prophets" claiming the world is going to end any day now.
Funny thing...it never does...
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)safeinOhio
(32,719 posts)Jesus said there were those alive that day that would see his return.
Then he came back to speak to Paul.
I'm right there with you.
hunter
(38,327 posts)It keeps well and can actually be used as medicine, or as a trade item with non-Mormons.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)would be more useful in making extracts, for instance.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Either it ends in such a way as you're killed, in which case you don't need any extra food, or else it "ends" in such a way that you survive, in which case what, you've given yourself another few months of food? a year? Mormons are all supposed to be keeping at least 6 months of food on hand as it is, iirc. You'd think they'd stock up on seeds, fertilizer, and books on how to farm. Possibly hydroponically, and stocking up on water, windmills, and grow lights, if the outdoors is 'contaminated'.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)the earth - survivalist books were written by Mormons.
There is one that I suspect my daughter still has that tells you exactly how much food etc. you will need for that 6-12 month stash. It is based very much on how our ancestors used to prepare for the winter months.
I think that the above book is one of the most informative ones I have ever bought. My family uses it to know how much to plant in our garden etc.
Personally I do not think the Bible tells any of us to prepare for the end other than our own death. Most traditional churches do not interpret Revelations the way the Mormons to.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)points out that Mormons are supposed to also have seeds and gardening supplies, which I didn't know, so they're thinking farther ahead than I gave them credit for anyway.
I've got a Mormon cookbook, but not a 'prepper' type of book. But that reminds me - I've got most of the Foxfire series, and a new bookstore just opened a little bit away, and as I gave it a quick lookover the other day, it looked like they had the entire series on the shelves, so I might be able to fill in the gaps in my set.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)have them. Many of us tried to go back to the earth but found that to live in today's world be needed more than what we could provide. My family gave it a try back then but failed for lack of money.
Today most of us have a job or social security and we are working on a family coop to provide what we can for ourselves. The books are still relevant. IF we have a place to garden.
LuvNewcastle
(16,856 posts)you might as well double down.
tanyev
(42,613 posts)would be much higher priority than stocking up on supplies. Just sayin'.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)If the world is going to end WTF do you need extra food for? Shoot if it is going to end go out, smoke weed, fuck your brains out, pig out on whatever you love, drink like a fish, quit your job. Bunch of assholes. I'm sure they don't believe the world is going to end that badly.
Paka
(2,760 posts)My sentiments exactly. Except, I would like to have some dark chocolate to go along the weed and Cote de Rhone and cheese I intend to gorge on as I'm saying my last goodbyes.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)and that the "end" might be a collapse of the financial system ir the such. That world ends, but life goes on.
Not that I really believe that. Anything is possible, but the prophetizing part is pure BS.
mnhtnbb
(31,404 posts)the end of the month: trans-Canada train trip. Or maybe the end of the world
is only coming in the US and we'll be lucky we're somewhere else?!?
Paka
(2,760 posts)I've done it both directions. It's a good train. You're probably safe from whatever is going on in the US. Enjoy!
leftyladyfrommo
(18,870 posts)And they were doing the same thing then. It's nothing new.
They believe in the apocalypse and that only the Mormons will survive.
LuvNewcastle
(16,856 posts)Who in the hell would want to live in that world?
leftyladyfrommo
(18,870 posts)They kind of live in their own little world there in Utah. They are a law unto themselves. They will try to get you to join but if you aren'the interested you just become a nonenity and are pretty much ignored.
Interesting people to study.
LeftinOH
(5,358 posts)...just not all at the same time.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)And besides...follow the money.
Every time FEAR is injected - people will buy "A,B,C," to prepare for "X,Y,Z,".
Remember when bushco told everyone to stock up on plastic and duct tape for the impending Anthrax or whatever "it" (fear factor) was at the time???? Sales shot Way the hell up...stores sold out.
FEAR=Money so much of the time.
Paulie
(8,462 posts)Don't worry if the use by date is Oct 1st. Gotta make book!
global1
(25,270 posts)1. A golden haired prophet and a black doctor will be leading the people
2. A Brit will win America's Got Talent
3. A black man who lives n a white house will not accept lame duck status
4. People who live under the dome will be freed
5. The fox will buy the world of pictures
6. A bush will fade into oblivion
7. One woman will rise as another falls
8. Things won't go better with koch
9. The goat hex will be lifted and cubs will gain respect
10. Old jewish fringe with glasses will be prayed for by christians
Just some other things to watch for to know that it is really the end is really near
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)global1
(25,270 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)sailfla
(239 posts)The world's citizens need a little more time tho fuck it up completely.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)Demand creates jobs and all that.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)Nope. Just like fellow loony tunes religio-crazies they'll just wait for the next garbled mistranslated illogical bit of nonsense and say that THIS time it's inspired prophecy,.
Ain't no crazy like god-crazy.
safeinOhio
(32,719 posts)they have a couple of loop-holes, just in case
jeff47
(26,549 posts)I find it ironic that the people most desperate to not die are usually the people with the strongest professed belief in an afterlife.
If you really think you're going to paradise, why work so hard to delay the trip?
leftyladyfrommo
(18,870 posts)As it is Book of Mormon.
I tried over and over to read the Book but I never got past the first chapter it'seems so boring and poorly written.
MuseRider
(34,119 posts)to keep at least a years worth of food and supplies to keep their families. Most keep as much as they can to help others as well. The women get together and do dry canning periodically. This is so if tragedy strikes, any kind not end of the world silliness, they can rely on themselves and help others until the church gets to them. The church, from what I learned, has enough for millions of people. Food, clothing etc. This has been done for many many decades (not sure when it started but I would think almost from the beginning).
I was a member. Long story but I am no longer, I left when asked to promise all my belongings to the church upon my death. When I asked them what my family was supposed to do their answer was that they would take care of them. I quit the church knowing that I could never put my family in the position of having to rely on them, they are not Mormons and I would not want them to have to comply with the church for sustenance. That is probably a good way for the church to acquire so much.
EDIT to add: There were quite a few other reasons to quit, I had a list. They were not happy with my questions and I was not happy with their answers. They con you in at first, then you make friends (I had good friends in the church already) and then they ask for you to commit to things without telling you exactly what you are promising. Add to that the anti LGBT stance and I was outta there when I found out. I did get to know some fine, good people in that church however.
xmas74
(29,676 posts)via pm sometime. You seem to have a perspective that I would like to read.
MuseRider
(34,119 posts)Please feel free to PM me. I may or may not get back here until later but I will certainly be happy to talk to you about it.
I hold no personal animosity towards the church. As a person whose family was not involved it presented some unique problems but then as I learned more there were my own personal problems. As I said, I know some very good and kind people who function in the church but do not feel the same way the church does at times. It must be hard for them.
CanonRay
(14,113 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I've lost count of all the times I can recall that someone has predicted that the world is coming to an end. And that's only the past fifty years or so. Why are people dumb enough to believe such nonsense?
I wish I were a good enough writer to write a novel about end of the world predictions among dinosaurs, until one is finally correct: the asteroid strike that finally finished them off.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)'nuff said.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Someone wake me up in October please.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)ladyVet
(1,587 posts)But, there's no harm in having some food and other supplies on hand for emergencies. You never know when you'll be stuck without power due to natural disasters, bad winters, grid failures and the like.
The main reason some stockpile so much food is to hold them over until they can get gardens going. There's no way you can stock enough food to last for years or decades (unless you're a billionaire or something), but six months to a year's worth is doable for many, and I know I feel better when my pantry isn't empty. It's saved my family more than once when things got bad for us financially.
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)night.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)I can't blame them...That's never happened before.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Or in this case, dips plural.
elfin
(6,262 posts)Can't remember if it is for 6 months or a year. But not a bad practice, if a job is lost etc.
Have a VERY wealthy Mormon friend who does this, constantly rotating as she uses the older and replaces with newer. Not necessary in her case, but she does it to follow the tradition.
But not for longer than a year's supply for the family, I believe.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)People stock up, and buy really nice, expensive outdoor gear, and then, a little while after the end of the world, they figure out the world didn't end, and they sell their brand new expensive outdoor gear cheap in an "end of the world sale".
I believe this will be at least the 10th end of the world I've lived through. The last really good end of the world was in January 2000. I got a great $150 pair of Salomon hiking boots for $5 that March.