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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. I think it was mostly her put-down of Trump
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:22 PM
Sep 2015

in response to him criticizing her looks. But the Planned Parenthood thing probably helped too.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
2. She jumped in the polls because the media said she was good during the debates.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:24 PM
Sep 2015

The real question is why the media found she was good. I found she was fine, but no better than others. But it is the latest media narrative.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
4. That kind of stuff is sport, now, so it is plausible. But attacking PP...
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:35 PM
Sep 2015

is what the shit-in-your-pants-and-go-to-heaven Right wants most; attacks on queers will meet heavy resistance, so that's not very fruitful. Planned Parenthood is against the ropes and being slapped around like a punch-drunk boxing trainer. Very little resistance, few public defenders, the FR can (as usual, over and over) define and dictate the terms of discourse and rhetoric. MSM ain't gonna do a thing, and very few efforts are made by the DNC to defend a woman's right to choose, esp. when so many state legislatures are densely-packed with hard RW politicians. The Far Right knows its "opposition" better than it knows itself.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
8. we better watch her
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:12 PM
Sep 2015

She is dangerous.. gives them cover for the woman thing and she can lie lie lie and people eat it up and will vote for her in droves becasue she is the anti hillary.. gawd we are so fucked its not even funny the kind of bullshit people believe!

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
9. Fiorina represents the danger of Democrats relying so much on identity politics
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:24 PM
Sep 2015

A Carly vs Hillary match-up kills the "war on women" dynamic. Hillary will have to find some other way to keep the women's vote on her side. Because if she loses just a little bit, it could tip the scale.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
10. I think lying is a tactic for them
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 06:34 PM
Sep 2015

Their base chooses to believe whatever lies they spew and it forces the rest of us to waste time arguing against bullshit. You know, instead of real issues.

DFW

(54,412 posts)
11. They're doing a repeat of 2012
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 07:15 PM
Sep 2015

Crazy flavor of the month is on top. Don't forget, in 2012, the "front runner" for the Republicans was, at varying times (and in various polls) Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, and Michele Bachmann. Probably a few others I have since forgotten. They were all pretty forgettable, and their eventual nominee is pretty much forgotten by now, too.

I think this is one of the reasons three quarters of DU acts like it has come down with a collective case of rabies (check GDP). The Republican field is, again, so weak that, as things stand now, the nominee of the Democratic Party in 2016 is the next President.

History seldom repeats itself exactly, though, and many things could change in the next year.

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