Pope Francis expected to fire the Archbishop over meeting Kim Davis

[left-of-center2012]

After Pope Francis wrapped up a successful goodwill tour of the United States, he saw his that goodwill largely undermined when it leaked out that he had met with Kentucky marriage license clerk Kim Davis.

Francis and the Vatican made clear that while he was in Washington DC, the only official one-on-one meeting he had was with a former student of his, Yayo Grassi, who is gay.

... the meeting with Davis was part of a receiving line and that she was essentially slipped in by Washington Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò.
The New York Times says that he (Viganò) is now “likely to be removed at the first respectable opportunity.”

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/pope-francis-expected-to-fire-the-archbishop-who-tricked-him-into-kim-davis-meeting/22694/

[fredamae]

1. So, Davis is a Job Killer and a Sinner

for lying about all this...and those "small c" Christians Still worship her?

[librechik]

4. she has so much to atone for

I see her making mischief in her clerk's job forever, all in the service of The Lord (Satan)

[Wilms]

2. Perhaps they'll just "automatically" accept his pro-forma resignation in January.

In January 2016, Archbishop Viganò will turn 75 years old. Bishops at that age must submit to the Vatican a formal request for permission to resign. However, bishops often stay in their appointments long after as these requests are not automatically accepted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Maria_Vigan%C3%B2#Apostolic_Nuncio_to_the_United_States

[DirkGently]

3. Interesting. n/t

[WillowTree]

5. Unlikely.

He may retire in January anyway, but it isn't likely that someone as highly placed as an archbishop would be "fired" over something so trivial.

[Cal33]

7. Trivial?

[Hortensis]

15. Yes, comparatively very trivial. And it's not possible that the good Francis did

was largely "dissipated" by this. Especially since his messages are being quoted by inspired religious leaders of far more denominations than just Catholic.

As for her, most people aren't and weren't paying much attention to her at all. We're weirdos here. We not only watch more than 3 minutes of network evening news a day, including weather, we even read about social issues.

[Bluenorthwest]

17. Civil rights are not trivial things.

Francis showed his true colors for the first time since he got his PR staff. It will not be the last.

[Hortensis]

19. NO, they're not. But contrived arguments are.

[Cal33]

6. Conservative Right-Wing dirty-tricks, be they in religion or politics should backfire and be exposed

more frequently, as this one did.

[ellenrr]

8. can anyone link me to the NYTimes article?

I only found one that said the archbishop was likely to receive a chilly reception, not one that says he is likely to be removed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/europe/archbishop-at-center-of-mystery-of-papal-meeting-with-kim-davis.html

thanks

[starroute]

12. Here

Really all you have to do is google on the phrase quoted in the OP.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/europe/pope-francis-kim-davis-meeting.html?_r=0

[lumberjack_jeff]

9. We've been trolled by Davis and her lawyer. nt

[Wellstone ruled]

10. Pope Frankie going to come down on this big time.

There will be consequences for the People who made him appear to be a Right Wing Idiot. Pope Frankie is the peoples Pope not the Establishments Pope. If you have been paying attention,your will have noticed this fellow has shit canned many hard liners in the Catholic Church.

[msongs]

11. the pope shares the same values as davis so why the big stink about the meeting nt

[rurallib]

13. maybe the archbishop can get a job with Davis?

[SidDithers]

14. Pedophile priest? Move him to a new diocese...

Arrange Kim Davis meeting? Fire him!!



Sid

[rpannier]

20. I was going to argue this point...

but then I saw your Jays logo

I still have me jacket from 25 years ago.
Have been wearing it
Have been asked by a couple of people (I don't live in Canada) what team is that
Made me feel olde (sic)

Go Jays

[Bluenorthwest]

16. That does not change the fact that Kim and Frank have the same views about marriage equality

And Francis has certainly not fired the folks who produced that 3 day anti marriage conference at the Vatican with a nasty guest list of bigots far more influential than Davis.
Time Magazine, November 2014:
"This week the Vatican hosted a three-day, international, interreligious colloquium called Humanum, “The Complementarity of Man and Woman: An International Colloquium.” Its goal was to “propose anew the beauty of the relationship between the man and the woman.” Speakers came from nearly two dozen countries and a variety of religious traditions, including Muslims, Jews, Sikhs and Taoists.

The presence of American evangelicals and the LDS Church was particularly notable. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church, and Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, each gave speeches, and representatives from the Heritage Foundation and the Family Research Council in Washington attended. President Henry Eyring of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ first presidency spoke and Elder Tom Perry of the LDS’s Quorum of the Twelve also joined. In the United States, this trio of faiths has worked together to stand against the government’s Affordable Care Act’s contraception mandate, but it was the first time they were coming together at the Vatican to talk about marriage.

Adds Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council: “The atmosphere was almost euphoric as the attendees from six of the world’s seven continents broke from the historic gathering to return to their respective nations renewed in their stand for marriage,” he says. “The courts may declare otherwise, and Hollywood may depict its demise, but the union of a man and a woman as the natural and enduring definition of marriage will endure until the end.”
http://time.com/3597245/vatican-evangelicals-mormons-gay-marriage/

The deflections get tiresome. They need to stand up and claim their ground or back off.

[riderinthestorm]

18. I'll believe it when I see it nt