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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:47 PM Oct 2015

Rosanne Cash on Facebook: "Do NOT Tell Me She 'Should Have Had a Gun.'"

https://www.facebook.com/RosanneCash/posts/10153586998595336

Dear Followers and Likers-- if you can't maintain basic courtesy on my page, please allow me to show you the door. This is my page and I do have a right to my beliefs and convictions, as all of you do. I was raised to have the courage to stand behind those convictions and it's too late in life for me to sacrifice my integrity by keeping the most passionate of them secret. Those who tell me to 'stay out of politics and stick to music', or, in other words 'keep your mouth shut' are perhaps so obsessed with the Second Amendment that they haven't noticed the First.

I have as much concern for the safety of my children as any mother alive and if that makes me 'political', so be it. I don't hurl insults because I think some of you have a bewildering attachment to military-grade weapons and a refusal to consider mandatory background checks. I'd appreciate the same civility.

For ten years, I was on the board of PAX- an organization whose sole purpose was to prevent gun violence among children. (PAX merged with Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence several years ago.) After ten years of meeting grief-stricken parents of children killed by guns, I had to quit. I couldn't take the endless parade of innocent people with shattered lives. It was eating at my soul. More pre-schoolers die by guns every year than police officers in the line of duty, and people seem to accept it as collateral damage for 'freedom.' Whose freedom are we talking about? Certainly not a classroom of first-graders lying in a pool of blood. And we're not talking about the freedom of their parents either, whose lives are utterly destroyed.

In 2000, as a representative of PAX, I attended the Million Mom March in Washington, DC with my husband, my year-old baby and my 11 year old daughter. I had a lot of hope that day-- the energy was powerful and the thousands of parents holding pictures of their dead children was a mandate in itself.

At the end of the day, my friend Patty Smyth, who marched alongside me with Bette Midler, Emmylou Harris, Raffi and many, many more, said 'if nothing else, we helped carry the burden of the grieving mothers for one day.' I wrote an article for Rolling Stone about that day. I was full of expectation that our elected officials would rise to the occasion and enact basic gun safety legislation like background checks, safety locks and a ban on military-grade weapons.
It turned out that, in fact, all we did was help carry the burden for a day. Nothing changed.

Several years later, my precious daughter, Chelsea, was held up at gunpoint in the jewelry store where she worked. The gunmen held her for twenty minutes. I'm so grateful she was not killed and I'm also so acutely aware that the difference between me and the moms carrying the photos on the march is a split second. Do NOT tell me that Chelsea 'should have had a gun.' If she had, she'd be dead. She is not physically or mentally able to coolly aim a gun at someone who is already pointing a gun at HER, and fire sharp-shooter style at another human being while terror-stricken. Nor am I. Nor are millions of other people.

The logic that 'if more law-abiding citizens had guns, there would be fewer mass shootings' is confounding to the point of nihilism. What's the end game? Every first grade teacher should have a gun in her desk to prevent another massacre like Newtown? Every pastor in his pulpit? Every movie-goer, mall shopper, night club patron and mom pushing a stroller, until we are reduced to anarchy and violence in every social venue of this country?

If you can make a compelling argument why we have laws requiring safety locks on medicines to protect children, but no law requiring a safety lock on a gun, I'd like to hear it. If you can make a compelling argument why a mentally disturbed youth should be able to easily stockpile military-grade weapons because of loopholes in the law and no background checks, please-- go ahead. I'd like to hear an articulate and reasoned logic behind that thought.

The Constitution is a living document-- if it hadn't changed since its inception, I personally would not be allowed to vote. The language 'well-regulated militia' doesn't equal 'mentally ill person with stockpile of automatic weapons' in my interpretation, but if you believe the amendment extends to that, then I believe Congress needs to amend the amendment, as it has done before in other cases.

Personal handguns and hunting rifles will never be banned in this country. Not a single person talking about the gun issue, that I have heard or read, has suggested that.

If one classroom of first graders can be saved just by requiring background checks and a ban on military style weapons, wouldn't it be worth it? One teenager in a movie theater, one student nurse, one pastor in the pulpit, one little pre-schooler? If the answer is no, or the answer is just more vicious rhetoric, then we should be ashamed. That child could be yours. It was almost mine. So don't tell me to keep my mouth shut.

Thanks to the kind follower who posted this fantastic essay:

https://idlehandsworkshop.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/lets-not-talk-about-gun-control/

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Rosanne Cash on Facebook: "Do NOT Tell Me She 'Should Have Had a Gun.'" (Original Post) Hissyspit Oct 2015 OP
Thanks. Bookmarked for later reading. . . Journeyman Oct 2015 #1
bookmarked! secondwind Oct 2015 #2
Click the link mainstreetonce Oct 2015 #3
K&R me b zola Oct 2015 #4
That's a like. Makes me want to follow this celeb, I usually do not. joanbarnes Oct 2015 #5
Oh, but you should. Frank Cannon Oct 2015 #11
Try this - fairly recent Doctor_J Oct 2015 #39
I love Rosie. always have Doctor_J Oct 2015 #6
...Johnny would be proud. spanone Oct 2015 #7
absolutely, her papa would agree hopemountain Oct 2015 #12
K&R nt laundry_queen Oct 2015 #8
K&R LuvNewcastle Oct 2015 #9
Wow - what a great essay! KT2000 Oct 2015 #10
I have adored Roseann Cash since the 80's. I really like her music. I met her nirvana555 Oct 2015 #13
Love her song, "7 Year Ache!" Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #44
So many good arguments out there passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #14
Then there are simply the ones who have a serious addiction to guns, ammo and weapons, who Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #15
I too was robbed at gunpoint.... having a weapon would have done NOTHING for me groundloop Oct 2015 #16
Also robbed at gunpoint... and then shot... Raster Oct 2015 #24
Wow, glad you survived. How horrible. Thank you for sharing. catbyte Oct 2015 #27
Thank you. Raster Oct 2015 #34
K&R! Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #17
Great read malaise Oct 2015 #18
K&R Solly Mack Oct 2015 #19
K & R n/t Oldtimeralso Oct 2015 #20
Astute and timely... Fairgo Oct 2015 #21
America laments these attacks that come "without warning" and yet... Beartracks Oct 2015 #22
Without warning is right coolepairc Oct 2015 #52
So well said. northoftheborder Oct 2015 #23
A wonderful, admirable, and well-spoken woman. I had the pleasure of meeting her once. Mister Ed Oct 2015 #25
Ask yourself this question. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #26
Not going to go over well on the DU. Indydem Oct 2015 #28
K&R Paka Oct 2015 #29
K&R brer cat Oct 2015 #30
Thank you Hissyspit! NealK Oct 2015 #31
the NRA wants everyone paranoid and armed Skittles Oct 2015 #32
This, from the same guy's blog. . . . pretty good! Triana Oct 2015 #33
you nearly owed me a keyboard! niyad Oct 2015 #54
Thanks for posting this. russspeakeasy Oct 2015 #35
Beautiful - well done! Tumbulu Oct 2015 #36
And here's why Rosie won't be running for office Doctor_J Oct 2015 #37
A little excerpt from the linked essay Doctor_J Oct 2015 #38
Thank you. Great read. Photographer Oct 2015 #40
A very nice rant. But she could have saved a lot of work Gman Oct 2015 #41
Well put! Unrepentant Fenian Oct 2015 #42
K&R. Paladin Oct 2015 #43
... Bubzer Oct 2015 #45
Common sense chupacabra1 Oct 2015 #46
You mean someone like Rep. Giffords? bigbrother05 Oct 2015 #48
I was at the Million Mom March as well swilton Oct 2015 #47
Take it further Roseanne, let's BAN personal HANDGUNS, repeating semi-automatic weapons and vkkv Oct 2015 #49
Bravo!!!!!!! lisby Oct 2015 #50
Ms. Cash is an outstanding artist and great human being tabasco Oct 2015 #51
The logic that 'if more law-abiding citizens had guns, there would be fewer mass shootings' niyad Oct 2015 #53

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
11. Oh, but you should.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:08 PM
Oct 2015

I've been a fan of hers (and her father) since I was a lad. She's definitely a chip off the old block, that one.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
6. I love Rosie. always have
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:10 PM
Oct 2015

It's pretty dicey to espouse liberal views these days. Even the daughter of a legend is at risk. You go girl.

nirvana555

(448 posts)
13. I have adored Roseann Cash since the 80's. I really like her music. I met her
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:25 PM
Oct 2015

once when I was reservations manager at a luxury hotel and she and her band were staying there for the night. What a well written essay. I'd love to see it in the Op-Ed of the N.Y. Times.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
14. So many good arguments out there
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:30 PM
Oct 2015
I’ve been able to buy ammo and go to shooting ranges without ever showing an ID. But I can’t buy Sudafed without one.


Circular logic
They are convinced that easier access to more deadly weapons will allow them to defend themselves against someone who should not possess these weapons but does. Look at their circular logic. A. Someone very dangerous has access to firearms. B. I should be allowed to protect myself against that person. C. Therefore guns should be made easily available to everyone.


But what good are they?

That link in the OP is an excellent read.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
15. Then there are simply the ones who have a serious addiction to guns, ammo and weapons, who
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:31 PM
Oct 2015

generally must appear to be macho in order to mask their fearfulness.

Your dad I'm sure is smiling upon you, Roseanne

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
16. I too was robbed at gunpoint.... having a weapon would have done NOTHING for me
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:32 PM
Oct 2015

All these gun nuts who say otherwise are fools, until you've stared down the barrel of a pistol being held by a criminal you can't imagine how helpless you are.

And I guess I didn't realize Rosanne Cash was such an outspoken advocate of common sense laws.... more power to her.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
24. Also robbed at gunpoint... and then shot...
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 06:30 PM
Oct 2015

...and trust me, there were already far too many guns in that conversation for any more to make sense. The solution is NOT to make sure everyone is armed to the teeth. The solution is to do just the opposite.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
21. Astute and timely...
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:51 PM
Oct 2015

Thanks for this. A Very constructive conversation has started to rise above the predictable sound and fury.

The gun problem in the US is one component of a much deeper, wicked problem that has poisoned the nation. Solving wicked problems requires action research (applied community advocacy) engaged through a network of cause specific social interest efforts that share a basic value set. This, over time, can make produce the aspirational change...or violent revolution followed by a new round of horror. To me, that is where the only simple dichotomy is. We either slouch our way into extinction or we stand up as a human race, roll up our collective sleeves, and literally show the world that we are worthy stewards.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
22. America laments these attacks that come "without warning" and yet...
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 05:59 PM
Oct 2015

... background checks would provide such warning.

======================

 

coolepairc

(50 posts)
52. Without warning is right
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 11:50 AM
Oct 2015

When it's foreign terrorists, we pour resources into thwarting these sorts of acts. Why is it that we do nothing when the terrorist is an American national?

Mister Ed

(5,940 posts)
25. A wonderful, admirable, and well-spoken woman. I had the pleasure of meeting her once.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 06:32 PM
Oct 2015

I was as tongue-tied as she is well-spoken. It delighted Mrs. Ed to see me at a loss for words for once.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
28. Not going to go over well on the DU.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 07:09 PM
Oct 2015

"Personal handguns and hunting rifles will never be banned in this country."

She's also clearly never visited our fine community either or she'd know, as I do, there are plenty calling for exactly that.

Tumbulu

(6,291 posts)
36. Beautiful - well done!
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:43 PM
Oct 2015

Only thing is that I want all guns gone! So sick and tired of bullies pushing guns on all of us!

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
37. And here's why Rosie won't be running for office
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 08:32 AM
Oct 2015
it's too late in life for me to sacrifice my integrity


that disqualifies her from Congress
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
38. A little excerpt from the linked essay
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 08:34 AM
Oct 2015
I have tried twice to register these rifles officially. But, because I live in Virginia, I’ve been told it’s unnecessary. One of those handy loopholes. I’ve been able to buy ammo and go to shooting ranges without ever showing an ID. But I can’t buy Sudafed without one.


Yep. And the gunners insist there are too many laws.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
41. A very nice rant. But she could have saved a lot of work
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 08:46 AM
Oct 2015

By telling them what Danid Crosny told someone in the front row that said the same thing: "go fuck yourself.", Thevguy shut up.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
45. ...
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 09:25 AM
Oct 2015

Owning a military style weapon is not self defense... its indulging in a personal cold-war with other gun owners.

chupacabra1

(4 posts)
46. Common sense
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 09:53 AM
Oct 2015

Thank you Ms Cash, it seems that gun nut's solution to mass killings is more guns. This won't end until some Congressmen's family becomes a victim.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
48. You mean someone like Rep. Giffords?
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:41 AM
Oct 2015

You can't make someone tell the truth when it's in their financial/political interests to sell the lies.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
49. Take it further Roseanne, let's BAN personal HANDGUNS, repeating semi-automatic weapons and
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 10:55 AM
Oct 2015

magazines of more than five rounds.

Background checks and 10 day hold periods are essential.

niyad

(113,392 posts)
53. The logic that 'if more law-abiding citizens had guns, there would be fewer mass shootings'
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 12:27 PM
Oct 2015

The logic that 'if more law-abiding citizens had guns, there would be fewer mass shootings' is confounding to the point of nihilism.

thank you, ms. cash, for that statement.

I have not known anything about her until this moment, but am so impressed.

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