"I will re-negotiate NAFTA" NOPE.

[Phlem]

Same as it ever was.

Moderator Tim Russert: Will you, as president, say we are out of NAFTA in six months?
Clinton: I have said that I will renegotiate NAFTA, so obviously, you'd have to say to Canada and Mexico that that's exactly what we're going to do. . . . Yes, I am serious. . . . I will say we will opt out of NAFTA unless we renegotiate it, and we renegotiate on terms that are favorable to all of America. . . .
Russert: Senator Obama . . . Simple question: Will you, as president, say to Canada and Mexico, "This has not worked for us; we are out"?
Obama: I will make sure that we renegotiate, in the same way that Senator Clinton talked about. And I think actually Senator Clinton's answer on this one is right. I think we should use the hammer of a potential opt-out as leverage to ensure that we actually get labor and environmental standards that are enforced. And that is not what has been happening so far.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-fletcher/hillary-promised-to-reneg_b_8267424.html

[HooptieWagon]

1. Third Way triangulation.

They'll say anything to get votes, flip flop all over the map.... once in office they serve their corporate masters.

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

10. Last time we did not have a choice it was Corporate Dem A vs Corporate Dem B, this time we have a

a REAL Choice for the party today, Corporate Dem C vs Liberal/Progressive Dem B

Real Change will only happen when the corporate dems no longer hold any political office they are just as destructive as republicans and need to go.

Will the Democratic Party Be the Peoples Party or will it become a corporate party AKA GOP lite?

Guess we will see soon enough.

[kath]

2. Stop that! You're a HATER, comparing Candidate Obama to President Obama!

[jeff47]

3. They did! It's the TPP.

They never said the renegotiation was to help the "little people".

[laundry_queen]

7. Bingo. That's what i was going to say, but then read further down the thread. :)

On Canadian news they pretty much said verbatim, "this takes the place of Nafta". Jesus, we are doomed.

[cascadiance]

8. The term "renegotiate" = SUPREME DOUBLESPEAK!!!

And America is frankly TIRED of this crap! To avoid the improper Bush quote...

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

[mike_c]

5. lying like cheap rugs....

eom

[Katashi_itto]

9. K&R! Down with 3rd Way.

[pampango]

11. Joe Wilson said it best?

[Angel Martin]

14. LOL ! not quite the original reaction of this board to Wilson

btw, Obama's "reversal" on NAFTA came as no surprise to anyone paying attention.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/us/politics/04nafta.html?_r=0

[Phlem]

6. just saying,

temper the current status of the TPP with this information and come to your own conclusions. Here's mine,

[KG]

12. politicians lie

even the ones one worships.

[shenmue]

13. Isn't this Democratic Underground, not Trash the Democrats Underground?

[NobodyHere]

15. 143rd Dimension Chess or something