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Deer hunting may soon join open government and good schools on the pile of Wisconsin traditions trashed by Governor Scott Walker.
Each November, hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites take to the woods to hunt, thinning our large herd of white tailed deer. A love of the hunt crosses all social and economic boundaries. Indeed, in the politically polarized environment of present day Wisconsin, deer hunting is one of the few activities that stirs passions strong enough to make many of us set aside our differences and share a few days with our fellow citizens, without regard to their political opinions.
If Walker has his way, management of State resources, including deer hunting, will fall to private corporations. As reported in Lodi Valley News, Walker has hired Texan Dr. James Kroll to serve as Wisconsins deer czar, a position that gives Kroll considerable power over Wisconsins deer management policy. Kroll is an outspoken proponent of game farms, and an opponent of public lands and public game management, which he is on record as describing as the last bastion of communism.
The public lands Kroll despises include the state parks, state and national forests, and other publicly held property that hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinitesparticularly in the northern part of the staterely on for deer hunting. Hunters on public land may be surprised to discover that Walker regards their annual trek into a state forest as a radical left wing activity akin to marching in a May Day parade in Red Square. But so it is.
If Kroll gets his way, public land hunters will get the shaft. The deer herd no longer would be managed as a public resource, but as the private property of wealthy landowners. Wisconsin will become like Europe, where hunting is the privilege of the wealthy.
http://www.deeranddeerhunting.com/featured/will-wisconsin-privatize-public-land
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)It would be a mistake to use a game management strategy that works in Texas in Wisconsin.
I don't care much about game management strategy, but a lot of right wingers apparently do.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)undeterred
(34,658 posts)The issues that would make me vote for or against the governor are his positions on health care, workers rights, education, and jobs. And since I'm a not big on guns, most hunters would probably not like the kind of game management I would come up with...
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)The winguts hate that.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)has always tried to work in cooperation with the hunters to control the size of the deer herd. Not at all a top down sort of thing. (It sounds like Walker wants to cooperate with the hunters about as much as he did with state workers and teachers.
(I'm sure there are other DUers who know more about the DNR than I do.)
bvar22
(39,909 posts)You aren't concerned that Walker and Republicans (along with conservative "Democrats" want to privatize the Common Wealth which includes our State Parks and Wilderness areas and turn them into For Profit Theme Parks?
This is OUR land,
and you are not concerned that they want to make it their land?
Privatizing The Commons is a HUGE Issue that extends FAR beyond State Parks and DNRs.
IT also includes OUR Common Responsibilities like:
* Prisons,
*Voting Machines,
*Schools,
*Military,
*(AFAIC) Health Insurance
*Social Security
*Public Lands
*Mineral Resources on Public Lands
*Timber resources on Public Land
*Beaches and Coastal Waters
*Fisheries
In a Democracy, NONE of the above should EVER be privatized.
Privatizing any single ONE of the above should set off alarms and public outcry,
and that includes Privatizing Our Schools by calling them "Charter Schools".
Think about it.
Do you really want to see Corporate Logos on El Capitan in Yosemite?
undeterred
(34,658 posts)You're right, of course. But so far I have only heard this framed in terms of the cost of a hunting license. Privatizing state parks and public lands would fundamentally change the character of the state... and the reason a lot of people from other states visit Wisconsin.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)hedgehog
(36,286 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)I hope this becomes widely known -- quickly.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)Wisconsinites love deer hunting as much as they love bratwurst and beer. If it's accurate, it needs to be spread far and wide in the state.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)marble falls
(57,083 posts)This'll weaken his chance of holding his office, for sure. Because the next issue might be inferred: if you can't or don't hunt, you do not need hunting weapons. I can imagine tougher fire arms regulation as being an important issue for the 1% trying to maintain their wealth and possession of commons that they've already "privatized".
I hope he has to defend this plan loudly and often and openly, over and over again.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)"That dog won't hunt."
Irony, I loves it.
marble falls
(57,083 posts)means regarding weapon ownership. The prevailing view is that anyone not a felon proscribed from owning a firearm can own up to and including automatic rifles with clips below thirty rounds. These are sold as hunting weapons including the Chinese made SKS-47 which is marketed as a "sporting weapon". Basically an AK-47 with a chromed barrel which can be made full rock and roll easily enough if firing as fast as you can pull the trigger isn't fast enough.
What amendment of the Constitution guarantees the right to own firearms for hunting or even obliquely mentions hunting and firearms ownership?
Don't count that dog out quite yet.
My point is that this is an issue that will pull potential Walker backers away from him or at least away from the polls.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Sorry, we really can't have a meaningful conversation on this topic until you actually know what you are talking about.
tcaudilllg
(1,553 posts)It is against cosmic law to roll back progress.
atreides1
(16,079 posts)Where is the NRA on this...they always blow their horn about protecting the rights of hunters...unless it's the GOP violating those rights?
I recall a few years back the GOP in congress were trying to ban the sales of the .50 caliber rifle to the public, and the NRA was pretty silent on that too.
I guess the NRA is only interested in protecting the GOP....
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Sheesh, give them a day or two, will ya?
undeterred
(34,658 posts)but its consistent with the drive toward privatization which his administration stands for.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)"Gun rights" is just a wedge issue to rile up the loony teabagger base.
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)But you will actually get DUers who will foam at the mouth defending the NRA trying to convince people that the NRA is not an attack group for the GOP.
barbtries
(28,794 posts)before the vote. he has got to go down.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)Then again, he might not be surprised at all. My recollection of A Sand County Almanac is imperfect, but I do remember noting to myself that the hunting in Leopold's Wisconsin of the 1940s was confined to small birds, perhaps because that's all that was left to shoot.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)JCMach1
(27,558 posts)This is a REAL issue for hunters and gun owners.
No doubt there will be :crickets:
SecurityManager
(124 posts)I am a hunter and do hunt in Wisconsin so it is in other discussions I visit.
99% of all hunters seem to be right or far right and are referring to this story as a left wing liberal attack.
One word to them all: TEXAS!
undeterred
(34,658 posts)There are comments like that where this story is posted too. The thing is, its totally consistent with the kind of thing Walker has already done. Its consistent with the person he hired for the job. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't happen- and it might happen overnight without the passage of any laws.
If they want to put their trust in Walker, they deserve him.
Edit: I'm happy to hear this story is out on the hunting forums before the June 5 election. There may be some voters who can only be reached there.