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tencats

(567 posts)
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 01:51 PM Nov 2015

Stockpile of Military Items in Gliniewicz Boy Scouts Explorer Post

Fox Lake IL Authorities Investigating Stockpile of Military Items in Gliniewicz Explorer Post

Disgraced lieutenant had accumulated hundreds of items earmarked for police, not scouts
By Phil Rogers

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/Fox-Lake-Stockpile-Military-Items-Gliniewicz-Explorer-

Authorities in Fox Lake have locked the door of the former Police Explorer post, in the basement of a community center on the city’s west side. That basement is packed to the rafters with military equipment, which investigators say the Explorers, and their controversial leader, Lt. Joe Gliniewicz, never should have had.

A week after declaring that the lieutenant’s death was a “carefully staged suicide,” investigators took NBC5 Investigates into Gliniewicz’s former Explorer headquarters, revealing the mountains of military gear which even now is the subject of an intensive internal review. Acquired through an agency known as the Law Enforcement Support Office, those items are supposed to be requisitioned for use in bona fide police departments -- not Explorer Posts.

But in the Gliniewicz post, there they were: Kevlar helmets, radios, ballistic vests, combat boots, gas masks and gun belts by the hundreds. And investigators believe it was the increasing pressure to account for those items, which caused Gliniewicz to take his own life.

Under the LESO program, surplus military equipment is supposed to be made available to local police departments. But Keller says in Fox Lake, it never found its way to the police department, because Gliniewicz ordered it himself.

“When a department obtains the equipment, it’s not meant for Explorer posts,” he said. “The police department doesn’t even have this equipment. Many police departments don’t have this equipment.”

The former Explorer clubhouse is literally packed with military gear. Holsters by the dozens, ballistic helmets, combat fatigues, army cots. And, a find which Keller found especially disturbing, manuals on SWAT tactics and sniper training.

“Essentially the kids were being trained to kill on command,” he said. “And I don’t think that’s the intention of the Explorers, or what the Boy Scouts intended them to be.”

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/Fox-Lake-Stockpile-Military-Items-Gliniewicz-Explorer-Post-347342121.html#ixzz3rOXc3KXn
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global1

(25,252 posts)
2. Didn't Any Of These Explorer Scouts Talk To Their Parents?.....
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 01:54 PM
Nov 2015

I can't imagine that the scouts themselves didn't turn this guy in. Did he swear these boys to secrecy? I would hope that some journalist interviews some of the scouts for their take on this guy.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
9. More likely....
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 02:36 PM
Nov 2015

...the kids simply thought that all of the "cool gear" and training was a normal part of the Explorer Scout program. If they looked up to the guy and didn't have any previous experience with other Explorer programs, they probably wouldn't know the difference. Unlike Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts, which have well defined and publicly available programs, the Explorer and Venture programs are unique to each post, so a typical parent wouldn't have much to compare this one against.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. Pretty sure the kids would have talked not just to family but friends, schoolmates etc.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 05:15 PM
Nov 2015

I think another option is that the explorer club provided a convenient place to hide stuff for the apocalypse.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Never read the comments
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 02:10 PM
Nov 2015

But there are still people responding to this ever-expanding and ever-more-depressing story who are just convinced that Officer GI Joe was an upstanding guy being railroaded post mortem.

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