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niyad

(113,336 posts)
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 02:38 PM Nov 2015

Cost Of Megachurch Pastor’s Mansion Is God’s Little Secret

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Cost Of Megachurch Pastor’s Mansion Is God’s Little Secret




Meet Steven Furtick, pastor of Elevation Church in Charlotte, North Carolina. He has a mansion, but not a yacht (as far as we know). He likes the nice things God has sent his way, like a gift for preaching and also a 16,000-square-foot home on 19 acres, which is about what God wants, since He’s helped Furtick get enough people to donate to his ministry to buy the thing. No clearer message of God’s favor than that, now is there?


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In my Father's house there is much bling

Furtick — and we may as well get our biases out in the open here; we keep misreading his name as some kind of combination of “Furtive” and “Fuckstick” — recently explained to an interviewer from a local TV station that God won’t allow him to go into the details of how much the house cost or how much money he rolls around in naked while thanking Sweet Jesus.

You see, it would simply be wrong, according to his deeply held beliefs, for Furtick and his wife Holly to get into all that, because the Bible commands Christians to be humble. That’s why this simple mansion-dwelling preacher of the Prosperity Gospel can’t reveal how much money he has:
I know that we have to have integrity and we have to be generous, and I know the extent of which that is true for me and Holly. So to go on record and say here’s how much money we’ve given and here’s what we do with our finances, to me, that would be the most arrogant thing I could do and it would rob me of the blessings of what Jesus said, which is that when you give, you don’t get up and tell everyone how much you’ve given.”

Now, sure, some church employees have talked to the media about how much money Elevation Church takes in, but darned if Furtick is going to tell some reporter a lot of details. That would be ungodly, no matter what some of his talkative brethren may have claimed.
So when you give one part of a picture, whether that’s how much one of the staff members, what they make, that’s between them and God. That’s not mine to release, and the same with my family. I wouldn’t do that to my wife and my kids. I wouldn’t do that to one of our staff members.

Mercy no! Never mind that the value of Furtick’s mansion and estate has been estimated at something like $16 million; the pastor wants to emphasize he is a humble servant of God, called to harvest whatever he can from the rubes. We mean, called to help others achieve God’s will for them. And maybe to accept whatever love offerings his flock might make.

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Read more at http://wonkette.com/595891/cost-of-megachurch-pastors-mansion-is-gods-little-secret#31792iIL3sAKEluZ.99

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randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. More power to him, if the rubes will give him the money, I say take it
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 02:40 PM
Nov 2015

And if you want rubes to stop being taken, start by telling them there aint no Jeebus


This does remind us of our absurd approach to church and taxation

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. Jesus and the Rich Man:
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 02:45 PM
Nov 2015
17 As Jesus was starting out on his way to Jerusalem, a man came running up to him, knelt down, and asked, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked. “Only God is truly good. 19 But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not murder. You must not commit adultery. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. You must not cheat anyone. Honor your father and mother.’[a]”

20 “Teacher,” the man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.”

21 Looking at the man, Jesus felt genuine love for him. “There is still one thing you haven’t done,” he told him. “Go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 At this the man’s face fell, and he went away sad, for he had many possessions.

23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the Kingdom of God!” 24 This amazed them. But Jesus said again, “Dear children, it is very hard to enter the Kingdom of God. 25 In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!”

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+10%3A17-31&version=NLT

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
4. PT Barnum would be a televangelist if he was alive today.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 02:48 PM
Nov 2015




"Just remember folks, the bigger your love offering the bigger your blessing."

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Parsonage exemption writ large.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 02:54 PM
Nov 2015

That is why I am against the parsonage exemption. It is hugely exploited. Or, at best it should be based on actual property values.

No excuse for million dollar estates.

Face it. Religion is just a huge scam.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
7. Elvation Church - Elevating the pastors Net worth evey chance we get !
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:20 PM
Nov 2015

The % of every dollar given located in the chart within the link, is reminiscent of the 25 worst charities post within DU

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. How can people be so stupid as to follow these charlatans and give them money?
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:36 PM
Nov 2015

I really don't get it.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
18. The insane thing is we let them get away with it.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 08:39 PM
Nov 2015

The most eye opening part of that John Oliver segment is when he talks about how rarely churches are audited. As in your odds of getting a church audited are greater than your chances of winning the lottery. We need to start cracking down on these liars and grifters.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
16. They live in another world
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 05:12 PM
Nov 2015

They can turn on Fox or the radio and hear all the greatest hits all the time. They completely ignore all of info sources because their info source tells them that everyone else is lying to them.

I see it endlessly on Facebook. Offer an informative link and if it's not one of theirs it must not be true. I've stopped trying to discuss their mindless meme posts. These are what I thought were mostly reasonable people (lots from high school years) but they are so far gone it just isn't worth it.

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