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Assad has less than 10 days to live. It's only a question of who will (Original Post) CK_John May 2012 OP
Do you mean we back his assassination? CaliforniaPeggy May 2012 #1
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #3
You do realize that the U.S. forces assassinating foreign leaders is a violation of federal law and coalition_unwilling May 2012 #4
It is an Executive Order, not Federal Law ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #9
I was not aware of the distinction prior to today and I thank coalition_unwilling May 2012 #12
+1. Smells like FR. freshwest May 2012 #24
Actually one can be. Kaleva May 2012 #23
That is a wonderful link you provided--thank you for it. MADem May 2012 #27
Then perhaps you should carry it out yourself. sibelian May 2012 #8
On what basis do you make the claim that Assad will be dead in 10 days? Trajan May 2012 #2
He's hoping Scootaloo May 2012 #5
From at least 2008, this poster has stated as fait accomplis karynnj May 2012 #6
deleted tabatha May 2012 #7
Another fair accompli prediction CreekDog May 2012 #10
We will see in ten days - I personally doubt that. David__77 May 2012 #11
I agree. Assassinating Assad will almost certainly provoke even more of a bloodbath riderinthestorm May 2012 #13
Thankfully, NATO and the US will not intervene militarily - directly. David__77 May 2012 #14
Nonsense. tabatha May 2012 #16
You think Obama IS foolish enough? David__77 May 2012 #18
I am staggered that you do not understand that the only person committing tabatha May 2012 #15
Sorry Tabatha but I firmly disagree. There's blood on both sides. riderinthestorm May 2012 #26
Is that ten business days? GreatCaesarsGhost May 2012 #17
:) pinboy3niner May 2012 #19
CK_John has NEVER posted anything that has EVER come true scheming daemons May 2012 #20
You mean McCain never dropped out of the '08 race... Iggo May 2012 #25
Exactly. What was Bugs Bunny's catch phrase again? FSogol May 2012 #28
Unrec brooklynite May 2012 #21
My sources say he has eleven days DavidDvorkin May 2012 #22
Let's count. Today marks one day since that prediction was made. DavidDvorkin May 2012 #29

Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
4. You do realize that the U.S. forces assassinating foreign leaders is a violation of federal law and
Sun May 27, 2012, 05:56 PM
May 2012

has been since, oh, the Ford Administration?

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
9. It is an Executive Order, not Federal Law
Sun May 27, 2012, 06:57 PM
May 2012

Executive Order 12333 to be precise. http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/RS21037.pdf is a good discussion of it.

You cannot be tried in a court or sent to jail for violating Executive Orders.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
12. I was not aware of the distinction prior to today and I thank
Sun May 27, 2012, 08:26 PM
May 2012

you for drawing it. I knew it was an EO, but was not aware that no criminal liability thus attached for violating it.

I would note that this is/was a classic case of a drive-by OP. No sign of the person who started the thread.

Kaleva

(36,301 posts)
23. Actually one can be.
Sun May 27, 2012, 11:45 PM
May 2012

"Most executive orders are issued under specific statutory authority from Congress and have the force and effect of law. Such executive orders usually impose sanctions, determine legal rights, limit agency discretion, and require immediate compliance. Federal courts consider such orders to be the equivalent of federal statutes. In addition, regulations that are enacted to carry out these executive orders have the status of law as long as they reasonably relate to the statutory authority. An administrative action that is carried out under a valid executive order is similar to an agency action that is carried out under a federal statute. In each case, the agency's authority to enact rules and to issue orders comes from Congress.

Absent specific statutory authority, an executive order may have the force and effect of law if Congress has acquiesced in a long-standing executive practice that is well-known to it...."

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Executive+Order

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. That is a wonderful link you provided--thank you for it.
Mon May 28, 2012, 12:09 PM
May 2012

I was aware of Ford's document, but Reagan's passed me by completely (I was a Very Busy Person in those years!).

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
8. Then perhaps you should carry it out yourself.
Sun May 27, 2012, 06:07 PM
May 2012

I'd advise against such a course of action, personally.
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
5. He's hoping
Sun May 27, 2012, 05:58 PM
May 2012

Just another person in a comfy chair wishing for someone else's death. And then having the balls to call it "justice."

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
6. From at least 2008, this poster has stated as fait accomplis
Sun May 27, 2012, 06:01 PM
May 2012

completely outrageous things - that do not happen. Eventually he will hit something right. This is dangerous because it is stating - obliquely that Assad will be assassinated.

David__77

(23,402 posts)
11. We will see in ten days - I personally doubt that.
Sun May 27, 2012, 08:17 PM
May 2012

But it would be negative for the Syrian people. Hardliners in the Baath Party would take over, and no good could come of it. Al-queda is probably plotting it more than anyone else, as it would serve their "clash of civilizations" ideology.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
13. I agree. Assassinating Assad will almost certainly provoke even more of a bloodbath
Sun May 27, 2012, 08:30 PM
May 2012

and probably drive Syria and the region into a civil war for a generation.

I'm staggered that DUers don't seem to understand the dynamics at play in Syria. Flip statements like the OP would have dire consequences in turning this low grade civil war into a major regional fire.

David__77

(23,402 posts)
14. Thankfully, NATO and the US will not intervene militarily - directly.
Sun May 27, 2012, 08:54 PM
May 2012

Their chosen proxies in Syria are quite inept, by the way. Obama is not so foolish as to openly facilitate the creation of Salafist terrorist base at the heart of the Arab countries.

David__77

(23,402 posts)
18. You think Obama IS foolish enough?
Sun May 27, 2012, 09:37 PM
May 2012

Or you think that US/NATO will intervene directly?

I could be wrong - we will see!

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
15. I am staggered that you do not understand that the only person committing
Sun May 27, 2012, 09:08 PM
May 2012

the bloodbath is Assad, with the help of Iranians (they fessed up), Russian weapons, Hezbollah troops and some Al Qaeda types from Iraq.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
26. Sorry Tabatha but I firmly disagree. There's blood on both sides.
Mon May 28, 2012, 09:53 AM
May 2012

Assad is for sure the greater sinner here but the Shia/Sunni/Christian frictions and low level conflicts cannot be dismissed. Assad is a bloody dictator/strongman but he's part of a reviled minority in the Islamic world, the Shia, and an even smaller sub-faction the Allawites. There are tribal issues here and regional tensions that are inflaming the situation even more so. Ignoring all of that is naive at best imho.

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