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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
Sun May 27, 2012, 07:37 PM May 2012

Does anyone have any pointers for staying on task while underemployed?

Right now I am doing contract work, so there will be no work for a week or two and then suddenly a pile of work will drop on me.

This is all well and good, but I feel like I am wasting my free time.

I want to do stuff. I want to study Spanish, I want to work on a book project, and I want to be better at cooking and cleaning and yardwork. But what I wind up doing is spending the whole day engaged in one stupid task after another with nothing to show for it.

To put it another way, self-discipline for things that don't HAVE to be done is not my strong suit.

So how does everyone stay on task for these things, especially when working at home?

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Does anyone have any pointers for staying on task while underemployed? (Original Post) XemaSab May 2012 OP
I hand-write a list in the morning. Even the piddly, stupid stuff goes on it as well as the enoyable riderinthestorm May 2012 #1
To do lists work for me too, although I don't put everything on them. Gormy Cuss May 2012 #4
What type of contract work? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #2
I hate to say it because my posts are almost always train of thought but XemaSab May 2012 #15
I know I would be more productive if I'd just LiberalAndProud May 2012 #3
This should be a DUzY (of the ouroboros type, I think :) - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #9
First I had to google Ouroboros, damnit. LiberalAndProud May 2012 #14
Is moving an option? randome May 2012 #5
My daughter just took a job 2000+ miles away. Even doing ALL of the moving herself, it cost @ $5k riderinthestorm May 2012 #8
I know where you're coming from. And I agree. randome May 2012 #11
I worked a few times near DC. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #19
Ooh! I'm going to forward this asap to her! riderinthestorm May 2012 #22
What area is she near? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #26
McLean Virginia. She's looked at a couple places in Leesburg but I did forward your suggestion last riderinthestorm May 2012 #33
There is... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #35
I don't watch TV and I recently XemaSab May 2012 #16
or the computer. or open a book. HiPointDem May 2012 #24
Right now I am still in the "reading" phase of the research XemaSab May 2012 #29
how did this turn into a thread about moving to find work? magical thyme May 2012 #34
I have similar issues... octothorpe May 2012 #6
damn hfojvt May 2012 #7
There are Big Things to do in the yard XemaSab May 2012 #17
I try to arrange it where the small tasks add up or "stay done" bhikkhu May 2012 #28
Word XemaSab May 2012 #30
Solitaire. HopeHoops May 2012 #10
When I have personal projects I want to work on mythology May 2012 #12
Get married. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #13
ways to get visibility on accomplishments NJCher May 2012 #18
Try writing a book. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #20
I have a job in which I'm very much underemployed. SheilaT May 2012 #21
. XemaSab May 2012 #23
Ah, you have a private-sector writing fellowship. Next thing you know, they'll make coalition_unwilling May 2012 #27
A private-sector writing fellowship! I LOVE it. SheilaT May 2012 #38
Yeah, I've never quite gotten the hang of purely electronic revision. There's coalition_unwilling May 2012 #39
I can always do a first draft on the computer, and some revisions SheilaT May 2012 #40
Tee-hee-hee. During a slow summer once, while at a very dull job working coalition_unwilling May 2012 #42
Ifd I had a real writing/editing job, I'd have to be working while on the job. SheilaT May 2012 #43
Good for you. truedelphi May 2012 #31
Are you looking for a job with more hours? That would take your free time. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #25
I have the same problem. wildeyed May 2012 #32
I took Spanish at the JC XemaSab May 2012 #37
sometimes rewarding myself with a brownie works magical thyme May 2012 #36
A written schedule, on-line classes, make lists and find satisfaction in striking when completed. lonestarnot May 2012 #41
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
1. I hand-write a list in the morning. Even the piddly, stupid stuff goes on it as well as the enoyable
Sun May 27, 2012, 07:42 PM
May 2012

things I may have wanted to do. Library trip, look up interesting recipe, grocery store, work items, laundry, dry cleaning, meetings with new clients... whatever. Its all on there. Then I systematically, manually, cross off the tasks as they get done throughout the day. If I don't get an item done, it goes to the top of the list for the next day.

Been doing this for 25 years and its what works for me. I know a lot of people use their electronics to track their tasks but I like the old fashioned look of that list getting scribbled off. Good luck!

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
4. To do lists work for me too, although I don't put everything on them.
Sun May 27, 2012, 07:59 PM
May 2012

I just list the major items and when I want to accomplish them.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
8. My daughter just took a job 2000+ miles away. Even doing ALL of the moving herself, it cost @ $5k
Sun May 27, 2012, 08:25 PM
May 2012

$990 for a 16 ft Uhaul (towing her car). Gas was $700, tolls were $100. Stayed two nights in a hotel, another $100 while she's on the road. Her new employer is paying for the first 2 weeks at an extended stay hotel while she tries to find an apartment (so no cost there) but she's moved to Washington DC where the studio apartments she's looking at are averaging $1000 - $1200/month so the first and last months rent plus the security deposit will cost approximately $3000.

She just did this last week so its fresh in my mind.

I've always been pretty horrified at how cavalier some DUers are in suggesting someone just "move" where the jobs are. Hell, moving's expensive, even doing it yourself. (This isn't a slam at your randome, please know that... Just some DUers don't even ask nicely, they just insist that slackers aren't going where the jobs are and that pisses me off). The OP doesn't sound like a slacker to me though

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. I know where you're coming from. And I agree.
Sun May 27, 2012, 08:34 PM
May 2012

If you're in the 'right' industry, then moving is a better option. But some just assume that because THEY are in that industry, then everyone should be as clever and virtuous as they are.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
19. I worked a few times near DC.
Sun May 27, 2012, 10:06 PM
May 2012

I know apartments are high. When I was working Northwest, I stayed in Germantown at the Homestead: 20141 Century Blvd Germantown, MD 20874 (301) 515-4500. A long term arrangement with the manager worked out to ~ $30/day. No security, clear out on a day's notice, utilities, cable, internet and phone included included. Another time I stayed at the Candlewood Suites in Fairfax for about $265/week.

I've been on the road a lot. Hope this helps.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
22. Ooh! I'm going to forward this asap to her!
Sun May 27, 2012, 11:18 PM
May 2012

She'll get housing on site at some point, which will be free, so she really doesn't want to commit to a year lease when she could be moved into free housing.

Thanks for the tip! She literally landed there on Thursday night, started work at 6 am Friday and will work every day for the next week while the other employee who will be working with her gets married. So she's done a bit of real estate browsing in her spare time but only a couple hours at a time. She put her stuff in a storage unit for the moment and is living in an on campus apartment for now so she's been pretty swamped these first few days. Definitely thrown into the deep end of the pool with literally NO training (the other employee met her on Thursday night when she pulled in at 9 pm, went over the routine and took off at 10:30) So something like this maybe perfect.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
26. What area is she near?
Mon May 28, 2012, 12:33 AM
May 2012

Most hotels have some latitude in the rate and prefer to having a known person occupying a room full time. Most of the time you need to speak with a Director of Sales or General Manager to negotiate this. If you act as if you do it all the time, they'll usually work with you. I've been working in near LAX for a while and these deals were a while back. Look into places that target longer term stays. Extended Stay and Candlewood are great; Homewood and Fairfield are a bit pricey. There's an Econo Lodge in Woodbridge that would also be very reasonable.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
33. McLean Virginia. She's looked at a couple places in Leesburg but I did forward your suggestion last
Mon May 28, 2012, 09:36 AM
May 2012

night with the caveat that I thought it was a chain type long term stay hotel and maybe she'd find one in Virginia??

I may make this an OP and ask for suggestions. I had one DUer pm me with an apartment suggestion already. Maybe I need to put it out there....?

Many thanks again!

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
35. There is...
Mon May 28, 2012, 10:22 AM
May 2012

Last edited Mon May 28, 2012, 10:53 AM - Edit history (1)

...a Candlewood in Fairfax, VA about 10 miles from McLean. Candlewood is a great product for a hotel.

Rooms: http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/candlewood/hotels/us/en/fairfax/wasrh/hoteldetail/hotel-room-rates

As I recall this hotel had a community use grill and picnic area, a free exercise room and free washer/dryer (pay for soap). The desk maintains a collection of DVDs. Across from the desk is a room called the "Candlewood Cupboard" which is stocked with snacks, drinks and microwave dinners for a reasonable price.

On the road I always make a deal at hotel rather than an apartment. Leases, deposits, utilities and furniture all kind of cramp my style.


ETA: A word to the wise: avoid the Wilson Bridge in the Beltway (I-495). I can't imagine why but this bridge OPENS and stops traffic in both directions somewhat regularly.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
16. I don't watch TV and I recently
Sun May 27, 2012, 09:11 PM
May 2012

put a net nanny on the computer that lets me spend an hour a day goofing off on the internets.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
29. Right now I am still in the "reading" phase of the research
Mon May 28, 2012, 01:03 AM
May 2012

I have like 4 books to go before I am "done."

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
34. how did this turn into a thread about moving to find work?
Mon May 28, 2012, 10:19 AM
May 2012

The OP is *temporarily* underemployed, and trying to make good use of her time off before the work deluge begins.

I wish I could help, but I'm no better than she is. I'm per diem and, after a grueling 3 years in school past my midlife, am relieved to have a few days/week available to attempt to get caught up on stuff that fell by the wayside. Like, take care of the 2 trees down courtesy of Irene, get the extra toilet fixed that starting leaking last year (temporary fix of turning off water to 1/2 bath will hold indefinitely), clean house top to bottom, re-organize and get rid of extra junk, restore the perennial garden that was overrun with weeds and grass while I studied, etc. Get onto high speed and find freelance work for in between per diem. Etc.

Instead, I log on here and when stuff is taking forever to download, I use that time to productively stare into space. Right now I'm excusing myself because the first phase of garden reparation resulted in achy, sore elbows that get re-injured every time they reach the brink of better. Also because my temperature has been 1 degree below normal for days, so I think I'm fighting a virus which would explain why my achy sore muscles are spreading. Or maybe Lyme, since I was bitten by 2 ticks this spring.

I would mention to the OP that it's ok to have some downtime in life. Most Americans do not get enough of it. It's not wasting time. It's re-charging batteries.

octothorpe

(962 posts)
6. I have similar issues...
Sun May 27, 2012, 08:20 PM
May 2012

I'm employed (and getting paid), but I've been idle for the past month. I sit at home waiting twiddling my thumbs, trying to stay focused on things to make feel at least a little productive. It's so easy to get sidetracked, because it's like "Oh, I have all day tomorrow to read that manual or do such and such"....

Perhaps writing a schedule of things to be done? I'm thinking of doing that, but I don't know how useful it will be.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
7. damn
Sun May 27, 2012, 08:22 PM
May 2012

now you make me think I should work on my book

But why do you think yardwork and cleaning are somehow different from "one stupid task or another"?

I do have something to show for some of my own piddling around

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=adheacock&id=I6982

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
17. There are Big Things to do in the yard
Sun May 27, 2012, 09:17 PM
May 2012

like dig out and plant the vegetable garden, but I usually wind up doing really half-assed small tasks like spending 20 minutes weeding a bed or something like that.

Ditto for cleaning. For example, if I really took the time to clean out and organize the cupboards in the kitchen, then cooking and putting groceries away would be a lot more efficient, but it's such a horror show that it never gets done. Now I'm all depressed at how lazy I am.

bhikkhu

(10,716 posts)
28. I try to arrange it where the small tasks add up or "stay done"
Mon May 28, 2012, 12:49 AM
May 2012

...so a little time every day on a variety of tasks eventually makes a big difference. Which is easy to say, of course, and plenty of my small tasks are like washing dishes and cooking - you do them over and over and they're still not done! But working on the house and yard toward a long-term low-maintenance situation, that eventually pays off in free time and peace of mind. At least you can see at the end of the day the work you've done, even if its just a little bit.

For a long time I was in the habit of laying down in bed to sleep and spending a little time going over the doings of the day. Remembering what you did during the day and feeling good about it is one way of planting a little motivation in your brain going forward, especially if you make it a regular habit.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
12. When I have personal projects I want to work on
Sun May 27, 2012, 08:35 PM
May 2012

I usually write out a list, usually in Excel so I can see all the things I want to get done. It usually motivates me because I see the list and I want to cross things off of it.

Also I usually turn off things like the TV or even podcasts and just listen to music while I'm working to avoid the distractions as I find music to not compete with my concentration.

It might help to make a schedule, but I find that often my personal projects tend to take more time than I initially budget.

NJCher

(35,670 posts)
18. ways to get visibility on accomplishments
Sun May 27, 2012, 09:44 PM
May 2012

I work on lots of different projects and a long time ago I had the same frustration you have. I changed how I worked and while my method doesn't solve the problem 100 per cent, it does let me know where I spend my time.

First, decide what your priorities are.

Next decide how much time you can afford to devote to each particular project.

I work in 30" increments and then move on to another project. That way I get a little progress each day on the priority projects.

I write down what was accomplished at the end of each 30-minute increment.

I'm very much into visibility. With some projects, I photograph the start and the end. When you work by yourself, you're often your only feedback.


Cher

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
21. I have a job in which I'm very much underemployed.
Sun May 27, 2012, 11:12 PM
May 2012

Lots of free time. I spend far too much of it cruising the internet, although I never log onto DU from work, just to be on the safe side. '

I've actually been writing, and making good progress on a series of short stories, that could possibly become a novel. I actually have a couple of other novels in draft form, but they're at the point that it's pretty tricky to work on them on the job. I'd have to be entirely too obvious with the stacks of print-out in front of me. The series of short stories, on the other hand, is easy to get away with.

What's mildly hilarious, is that management is highly unlikely to catch on, even though I occasionally make a comment about working on my novel.

I'll have to let everyone here know if something actually gets published.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
27. Ah, you have a private-sector writing fellowship. Next thing you know, they'll make
Mon May 28, 2012, 12:47 AM
May 2012

you CEO

Bravo and more power to ya.

I had one of those fellowships myself. MIne lasted for about 2 years. I used it to protest against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and to build the anti-war movement. I don't think management ever figured it out

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
38. A private-sector writing fellowship! I LOVE it.
Tue May 29, 2012, 03:42 PM
May 2012

I used to tell people who asked what I did for a living that I administered a privately funded long term study in child development.

I was a stay at home mom.

The only tricky part is when I want to revise using a print-out. Then I have a lot of pieces of paper in front of me that don't exactly look like work I'd be doing there. What do I get paid for? I work the information desk of a hospital. So I'm front and center to the public during my entire work time. Last year I actually tried working on my novel at work, but I got nervous as that seemed to be a bit too obvious.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
39. Yeah, I've never quite gotten the hang of purely electronic revision. There's
Tue May 29, 2012, 03:54 PM
May 2012

something about the actual pieces of physical paper that helps me with revision, when I'm working on longer works.

If you are forced to stay electronic, you can try writing stories that use your co-workers and 'customers' as source material. You're obviously way under-employed, so you might as well put those brain cells to use in ways that will benefit the human race.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
40. I can always do a first draft on the computer, and some revisions
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:38 PM
May 2012

but after a while I simply must print out what's been written and go from there.

What I'm actually working on might possibly turn out to be a novel in the form of short stories. Although at some point they may stop being true stand-alone stories, meaning if you haven't read The Story So Far, you might well be lost. But if I write them this way, I can do an awful lot at work. I probably got a good two to three thousand words written today, both new stuff and revisions.

Yes, I am vastly underemployed.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
42. Tee-hee-hee. During a slow summer once, while at a very dull job working
Wed May 30, 2012, 10:56 AM
May 2012

as a writer\editor for a greedy, unctuous owner (and what other kind are there, really?), I read Bruce Catton's entire 3-volume history of the U.S. Civil War. I too was underemployed (but had an office door I could shut for lengthy periods of time). In retrospect, I could have and maybe should have done what you are doing, i.e., wrote the Great American Novel. (I did finish a manuscript of poetry and a couple short stories, subsequently unpublished, during that long, hot summer.) My immediate boss despised the greedy, unctuous owner as much as I did, so even if she knew what I was up to, she wasn't going to say anything.

My advice: try to get a writing\editing job because it makes disguising your own writing and editing so much easier, kind of like hiding in plain sight

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
43. Ifd I had a real writing/editing job, I'd have to be working while on the job.
Wed May 30, 2012, 04:16 PM
May 2012

The one I have is just about perfect since I can actually write a couple of hours in the four hours I'm on the clock.

What I'm working on is some light science-fiction, and alas, I'm stuck right now on plot points. In one story someone has uncovered a box at the very back of a closet of a missing person. What's inside is going to be very important, but I'm not sure yet what needs to be inside. In another story, the main character has visited a mysterious room and I haven't quite figured out who else will have access to the room and why.

It will come to me eventually. I find often that if I simply start writing a scene, it just happens. It may need a heck of a lot of rewriting, but I can usually get there.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
31. Good for you.
Mon May 28, 2012, 04:17 AM
May 2012

If only all writers had this sort of opportunity.

You must have behaved in all your previous lives that you got this chance.

i had one friend who mentioned how he was working on a book, (though not at work) and everyone else in the office said, "What's the title?" About a year later, when he mentioned that he had finished the novel, they all said "It's about time."

It was a day or two before he realized that they thought that he had been READING THE novel, rather than writing it!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. Are you looking for a job with more hours? That would take your free time.
Sun May 27, 2012, 11:32 PM
May 2012

Searching the internet, sending out resumes, going on an occasional interview. All that takes a lot of time.

Second: Do lists. I've read that that is something that most successful and organized people do. I know that I tend to forget to do what last week I had intended on doing this week.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
32. I have the same problem.
Mon May 28, 2012, 08:54 AM
May 2012

If I have a major project with a deadline, I am focused and on task. If not, I tend to piddle away my time. I volunteer a fair amount. That way I am accountable to the group for being places and finishing projects, similar to a work project. If I wanted to learn Spanish, I would probably need to sign up for a class at the community college. Same deal, it introduces structure and accountability into the process. The To Do list, which others mention is helpful. For cooking, I make a menu at the beginning of the week and shop. If that happens, meals tend to get made on a more regular basis. I am hopeless about cleaning and yard work. I do well for a while, but it is so boring, I never keep up with it for long. ADD meds might help, but I never get organized enough to get a script Good luck!

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
36. sometimes rewarding myself with a brownie works
Mon May 28, 2012, 10:24 AM
May 2012

I tell myself if I get such and such done, then I can have a brownie.

Sometimes, though, it backfires and I just head straight for the brownies.

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