Help! Classical/Instrumental music experts needed...

[ChisolmTrailDem]

I just posted this question in the Classical Music forum but GD is much more attended so I'm hoping someone can check this post out and perhaps identify the tune for me. Thanks in advance!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1031396

[KamaAina]

1. I know there are some classical people in the Lounge

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1018

[ChisolmTrailDem]

2. Thank you, KamaAina. I just x-posted there. nt

[hatrack]

3. It was written for the series - Alexander Courage, I believe, is the composer

Jim Carrey even referenced it in The Cable Guy:

[ChisolmTrailDem]

11. I've never seen that! My face is about to break from laughing so hard! nt

Last edited Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)

[Denzil_DC]

4. Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring"?

Look here: http://seanmunger.com/2013/10/23/stravinsky-in-space-the-classic-fight-music-from-star-trek-audio/

If you’re a fan of the old Star Trek TV show, you probably know before you even click the above video what it’s going to be. If someone so much as mentions the words “fight music” or “Amok Time,” you can already hear it in your head: the harsh bass line, the savage slices of the brass, and the pounding bongos and shaking tambourines. Indeed, aside from the Star Trek theme song itself, the classic “fight music” is probably the most instantly-recognizable audio cue from the entire series.

Although many people recognize the “fight music,” not very many people know the story behind it–either historically or musically. The music, which is officially called “The Ritual/Ancient Battle/Second Kroykah,” was composed in July 1967 by veteran Hollywood composer Gerald Fried for the second-season opening episode, “Amok Time.” This is one of Star Trek’s most classic episodes, depicting the descent into madness by Vulcan scientist Mr. Spock, who ends up in vicious hand-to-hand combat with his best friend Captain Kirk as part of an ancient Vulcan mating ritual. In addition to appearing in “Amok Time,” Fried’s “fight music” was also used in various other Star Trek episodes, including “The Omega Glory” and “The Gamesters of Triskelion”–and always during a fight sequence.

Once you’ve listened to the “fight music,” take a listen to this much older piece of 20th century classical music. You may notice some interesting musical and structural similarities.

#t=73

The above piece is from the 1913 symphony “The Rite of Spring” by Igor Stravinsky, one of the most important composers of the 20th century. Musically and emotionally, “The Rite of Spring” comes from the same sort of place that Gerald Fried’s music for “Amok Time” does: a primal ritual, violent and dangerous, brimming with emotions incapable of being tamed. There is an obvious thematic commonality, and I’m surprised more people don’t see the parallel.

[catrose]

5. Definitely Stravinsky

Can't say for sure whether Firebird or Sacre

[ChisolmTrailDem]

6. I'm watching this video and I think DUers have come through for me...

I'll have to listen to different ones to find the version/performer(s) of the one I heard but I do believe it is this one, in some form...

[Denzil_DC]

9. Heh.

Believe it or not, I just hit Google and started typing amok time and it autosuggested amok time fight music, then the above was the third result!

If you really want to blow your mind, set both YouTube videos in my post above playing simultaneously.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

13. Ok, lol, I suggest EVERYONE do that! Thanks for the help, Denzil! Cool stuff! nt

[Denzil_DC]

17. You're welcome.

It's taken my mind off frikken doom and gloom and terirrrisum, so thank YOU!

Now off to give that double-play thing a third go-round ... :boggle:

[ChisolmTrailDem]

19. You're welcome! I've always liked listening to classical music when I would happen...

...to catch it, which has been rare, don't know why, and I know not much about it beyond the recognition of the big names like Bach, Beethoven, Wagner, Mozart, and even Stravinsky. I usually listen to alt rock. I occasionally go in search of jazz and reggae. But I really enjoy a classical interlude now and then. I think I'll make an effort to venture here more often.

Glad to take your mind off all that EOTWAWKI chaos! I'm enjoying this little break from it myself.

[catrose]

10. Yes, around the 4-minute mark it sounds remarkably like Amok Time eom

[tsites]

7. Maybe Rite of Spring

It may have been from Igor Stravinsky's ballet suite The Rite of Spring (Le Sacre du Printemps). Possibly even the section titled "Jeux des Cités Rivales"

[ChisolmTrailDem]

8. I do believe that is the one, tsites! Glad you came out of lurk mode to...

...help a brother out!

[hifiguy]

12. Gerald Fried.

Written as incidental music for the scene very much in the style of Igor Stravinsky.

The music, which is officially called “The Ritual/Ancient Battle/Second Kroykah,” was composed in July 1967 by veteran Hollywood composer Gerald Fried for the second-season opening episode, “Amok Time.” This is one of Star Trek’s most classic episodes, depicting the descent into madness by Vulcan scientist Mr. Spock, who ends up in vicious hand-to-hand combat with his best friend Captain Kirk as part of an ancient Vulcan mating ritual. In addition to appearing in “Amok Time,” Fried’s “fight music” was also used in various other Star Trek episodes, including “The Omega Glory” and “The Gamesters of Triskelion”–and always during a fight sequence.

http://seanmunger.com/2013/10/23/stravinsky-in-space-the-classic-fight-music-from-star-trek-audio/

[ChisolmTrailDem]

14. Cool stuff! I knew DU would come through on this one :) nt

[Art_from_Ark]

15. Now I'm going to have to try to find those episodes

[ChisolmTrailDem]

16. Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" it is! I knew DUers could help on this one! Thanks all! nt

[Manifestor_of_Light]

18. I thought I was the first reply but for some reason it didn't post.

I said Rite of Spring, Stravinsky.
So it looks like we're all in agreement.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

21. Thanks, Manifestor_of_Light! That's the one I was looking for. nt

[eppur_se_muova]

20. It sounds a lot like this ...

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/xsewje/futurama-claw-plagh