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JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 12:25 AM Nov 2015

PoppyLeaks - The Story of Bush 41 the Establishment Won’t Publish

Consider the latest development: the embarrassingly transparent cover-up of George H.W. Bush’s life in his new “authorized biography,” which we wrote about previously. We noted how that book was a witting fantasy because of what it left out. Imagine a book about Richard Nixon’s life that leaves out Watergate.

Displaying a culpable lack of professionalism, the US media establishment has closed ranks around this fantasy of a benign, sometimes bumbling fellow, who somehow rose to the challenge of stopping Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait without getting bogged down in a Middle East quagmire.

snip

Want to know what corporate-media incest looks like? This approving book review — of a Bush-approving-book authored by a former chief of Newsweek — was written by a former chief of Time, Newsweek’s main “competitor.” In other words, Times gets Time guy to endorse Newsweek guy’s whitewash of Bush.

Because we know our readers prefer the truth, here are excerpts from WhoWhatWhy editor Russ Baker’s Family of Secrets, which paint a very different portrait of George H.W. Bush — whose “other” career with America’s spy agencies the establishment doesn’t want you to know about.

http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/11/16/poppyleaks-part-1/


Poppy Leaks Part 2:

In 1958, Zapata Offshore’s drilling rig Scorpion was moved from the Gulf of Mexico to Cay Sal Bank, the most remote group of islands in the Bahamas and just fifty-four miles north of Isabela, Cuba. The [Cay Sal] island had been recently leased to oilman Howard Hughes, who had his own long-standing CIA ties, as well as his own “private CIA.”

By most appearances, a number of CIA-connected entities were involved in the operation. Zapata leased the Scorpion to Standard Oil of California and to Gulf Oil. CIA director Dulles had previously served as Gulf’s counsel for Latin America. The same year that Gulf leased Bush’s platform, CIA veteran Kermit “Kim” Roosevelt joined Gulf’s board. This was the same Kermit Roosevelt who had overseen the CIA’s successful 1953 coup against the democratically elected Iranian prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh, after Mossadegh began nationalizing Anglo-American oil concessions. It looked like the Bush-CIA group was preparing for operations in the Caribbean basin.

The offshore platforms had a specific purpose. “George Bush would be given a list of names of Cuban oil workers we would want placed in jobs,” said one official connected to Operation Mongoose, the program to overthrow Castro. “The oil platforms he dealt in were perfect for training the Cubans in raids on their homeland.”

The importance of this early Bush connection with Cuba should not be ignored in assessing his connections to contemporaneous events. For example, it sheds light on the 1963 memo from J. Edgar Hoover discovered by reporter Joseph McBride. The memo, which mentioned a briefing about Cuban activity in the wake of the JFK assassination, had been given to “George Bush of the CIA.” Years later, many figures from the Bay of Pigs operation would resurface in key positions in administrations in which Poppy Bush held high posts, and during his presidency. Others would show up in off-the-books operations run by Poppy’s friends and associates.

http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/11/17/poppyleaks-part-2/





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PoppyLeaks - The Story of Bush 41 the Establishment Won’t Publish (Original Post) JohnyCanuck Nov 2015 OP
I thought it would be the story of his long-term extramarital affair with Jennifer Fitzgerald! Tanuki Nov 2015 #1
Who looked not unlike BAR...I guess she was a better listener, though.... MADem Nov 2015 #7
This is incidental to the story of the MSM whitewashing Poppy's CIA work. JohnyCanuck Nov 2015 #2
Candid Academic Admits Democracy Thwarted By Unseen Security Elite JohnyCanuck Nov 2015 #11
k & r & thanks! n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2015 #3
Then there's THE FAMILY: THE UNTOLD STORY OF THE BUSH DYNASTY Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #4
Read something about those oil platforms being used to smuggle coke too. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #5
What a coincidence coming across this post right now! I just switched over Ghost in the Machine Nov 2015 #6
Question: Has any of the MSM ever reported on that FBI memo inanna Nov 2015 #8
I believe that came up sometime during the John Poet Nov 2015 #9
Thanks. inanna Nov 2015 #10
The Nation in 1988 tried, other than that, nada. Octafish Nov 2015 #17
Thank you Octafish inanna Nov 2015 #18
K & R !! CanSocDem Nov 2015 #12
CIA Helped Bush Senior In Vietnam Oil Venture Octafish Nov 2015 #13
You're welcome Octafish n/t JohnyCanuck Nov 2015 #15
"Poppyleaks" I thought it was about how he came to wear depends. book_worm Nov 2015 #14
G.H.W. Bush the only cognizant adult in the nation at the time who can't remember where he was on Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #16

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. Who looked not unlike BAR...I guess she was a better listener, though....
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:36 AM
Nov 2015


A lot of subtle tension and longing in this photo, I'd say.

JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
2. This is incidental to the story of the MSM whitewashing Poppy's CIA work.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 01:12 AM
Nov 2015

However interesting to consider just the same.

From Poppyleaks Part 2:

.... the cold war got hot in an unexpected quarter when North Korean Communist forces launched an invasion of the south. Their attack had not been even vaguely anticipated in the National Intelligence Estimate — from the fledgling CIA — which had arrived on the president’s desk just six days before. Heads rolled, and in the ensuing shake-up, Allen Dulles became deputy director in charge of clandestine operations (my emphasis /JC), which included both spying and proactive covert operations. For the Bushes, who had a decades-long personal and business relationship to the Dulles family, this was certainly an interesting development.


When the intelligence services screwed up and did not anticipate North Korea attacking the south in 1950, "heads rolled," Russ Baker says. Contrast that to what happened on 9/11/2001 when an even bigger screwup occured and the USA was left open and undefended from a deadly and demoralizing terrorist attack. No one was held accountable, no heads rolled - instead some of the screwups were rewarded with promotions.

But just like the bank CEOs who are rewarded for causing the financial crisis by being given bailouts and subsidies and breaks, the military and intelligence officials who dropped the ball that day have been promoted. As Time reported:

They have basically promoted the exact same people who have presided over the … failure,” says a former Justice Department official, “and those individuals took the same thinking with them.

As the Washington Post reported, no one from the CIA, FBI or NSA has been reprimanded, punished, or fired for the events of 9/11.

The same is true for the military personnel on watch that day. For example, General Myers, who was Acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on September 11th, was quickly confirmed as Chairman two weeks later. General Ralph Eberhart, Commander in Chief of NORAD at the time of the attack, was promoted to head the new “Northern Command” a year after the attack.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/08/911-criminal-incompetence-and-ass-covering-by-the-bush-administration.html

JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
11. Candid Academic Admits Democracy Thwarted By Unseen Security Elite
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:37 AM
Nov 2015


JEFF SCHECHTMAN: Thanks for joining us here on Radio WhoWhatWhy. I’m Jeff Schechtman. Particularly in this political season many are a bit confused and even angered as to why the policies of the Bush administration — policies that the current president and administration were so critical of — have been adopted almost in total by them. Has President Obama simply changed course or is someone else setting our national security policy? My guest, Professor Michael Glennon, argues that in fact we have a double government. He argues that we have a bifurcated system, as he says the structure of double government in which even the president now exercises little substantive control over the overall direction of US national security policy. Michael Glennon is a professor of international law at Tufts Fletcher School of Government. He is a former legal counsel to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. His articles about American intelligence and torture have appeared in The Economist, The New York Times and the Financial Times. His most recent book is National Security and Double Government. It is my pleasure to welcome Michael J. Glennon to Radio WhoWhatWhy. Thank you much for joining us.

Audio and transcript (page down to read the transcript) of interview with Prof. Glennon here :
http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/11/13/why-the-new-boss-is-just-like-the-old-boss/
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
4. Then there's THE FAMILY: THE UNTOLD STORY OF THE BUSH DYNASTY
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:29 AM
Nov 2015

By Kitty Kelley.

She writes books full of true gossip that publicists try to suppress.
She gets attacked mercilessly, but she has never been successfully sued for slander, so that means her sources are solid. Truth is an absolute defense to slander.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
6. What a coincidence coming across this post right now! I just switched over
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:37 AM
Nov 2015

from Facebook, where someone had posted a picture of President Obama saying the he was "the biggest hoax perpetrated on America - share if you agree!"

I said "No, that would be Reagan and GHW Bush with their Iran-Contra deals, cocaine smuggling, and the murder of Barry Seal and pasted this quote:

George Herbert Walker Bush: “Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.”
That is a famous 1992 quote by George Herbert Walker Bush to Sarah McLendon, a Texas journalist who Bush had known for years and who was the grand dame of the White House press corps at the time. McLendon had asked Bush: “What will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra?”
Jeb Bush to intelligence operative Al Martin, who had worked closely with Jeb Bush during the Iran-Contra scandal and was threatening to go public: “There is no constituency for the truth.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/4/3/1199001/-Jeb-Bush-Oliver-North-and-the-Murder-of-CIA-Drug-Smuggler-Barry-Seal-in-1986


I also added this link for good measure... nothing but crickets so far!

Jeb Bush and the 1986 Murder of CIA Drug Smuggler Barry Seal

Started by Guest_Robert Morrow_* , Mar 07 2013 07:31 AM

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20001



There is a TON of good reading there, but don't take my word on it, check it out for yourself!

Peace,

Ghost

inanna

(3,547 posts)
8. Question: Has any of the MSM ever reported on that FBI memo
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:51 AM
Nov 2015

about Bush?

I suspect not, but I'm not sure.

Great post, btw. Recommended.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
9. I believe that came up sometime during the
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:12 AM
Nov 2015

1992 campaign...

Poppy said it 'was some other George Bush', and the MSM let it go at that.

inanna

(3,547 posts)
10. Thanks.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:15 AM
Nov 2015

I've read about it online, but don't recall reading about it from any of the major news networks.

Not surprised.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. The Nation in 1988 tried, other than that, nada.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 02:01 AM
Nov 2015

The reporter asked CIA about the second memo below. The back story:

THE TRUTH BEHIND JFK's MURDER

John Quinn / Newshawk

EXCERPT...

Could George Bush be involved in the JFK assassination?
In 1963, Bush was living in Houston, busily carrying out his duties as president of the Zapata Offshore oil company. He denied the existence of a note sent by the FBI's J. Edgar Hoover to "Mr. George Bush of the CIA." When news of the note surfaced, the CIA first said they never commented on employment questions, but later relented said yes, a "George Bush" was mentioned in the note, but that it was "another" George Bush, not the man who took office in the White House in 1988. Some intrepid reporters tracked down the "other" George Bush and discovered that he was just a lowly clerk who had shuffled papers for the CIA for about six months. He never received any interagency messages from anybody at the FBI, let alone the Queen Mary.

It is also worth noting that a CIA code word for Bay of Pigs was Operation Zapata, and that two of the support vessels were named Barbara and Houston.

Many say that George Bush was high up on the CIA ladder at the time, running proprietorial vehicles and placed in a position of command, responsible for many of the Cubans recruited into "service" at the time. All through the Iran-Contra affair, Felix Rodriguez, the man who captured and had Che Guevara killed for the CIA, always seemed to call Bush's office first.

From The Realist (Summer, 1991):

"Bush was working with the now-famous CIA agent, Felix Rodriguez, recruiting right-wing Cuban exiles for the invasion of Cuba. It was Bush's CIA job to organize the Cuban community in Miami for the invasion.... A newly discovered FBI document reveals that George Bush was directly involved in the 1963 murder of President John Kennedy. The document places marksmen by the CIA. Bush at that time lived in Texas. Hopping from Houston to Miami weekly, Bush spent 1960 and '61 recruiting Cubans in Miami for the invasion....

"George Bush claims he never worked for the CIA until he was appointed Director by former Warren Commission director and then president Jerry Ford in 1976. Logic suggests that is highly unlikely. Of course, Bush has a company duty to deny being in the CIA. The CIA is a secret organization. No one ever admits to being a member. The truth is that Bush has been a top CIA official since before the 1961 invasion of Cuba, working with Felix Rodriguez. Bush may deny his actual role in the CIA in 1959, but there are records in the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba that expose Bush's role..."

CONTINUED...

Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20050404034348/http://freeworldalliance.com/jfkmurder/thetruth.htm

OLd dead link: http://freeworldalliance.com/jfkmurder/thetruth.htm



Then...

Poppy Bush warned FBI -- AFTER -- JFK assassinated.

In the hour of the death of President John F. Kennedy, Texas oilman George Herbert Walker Bush named a suspect to the FBI in a "confidential" phone call. He then added he was heading for Dallas. Skeptics need not take my word for it, that's what Poppy told the FBI:



Here's a transcript of the text:



TO: SAC, HOUSTON DATE: 11-22-63

FROM: SA GRAHAM W. KITCHEL

SUBJECT: UNKNOWN SUBJECT;
ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT
JOHN F. KENNEDY

At 1:45 p.m. Mr. GEORGE H. W. BUSH, President of the Zapata Off-Shore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, residence 5525 Briar, Houston, telephonically furnished the following information to writer by long distance telephone call from Tyler, Texas.

BUSH stated that he wanted to be kept confidential but wanted to furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in recent weeks, the day and source unknown. He stated that one JAMES PARROTT has been talking of killing the President when he comes to Houston.

BUSH stated that PARROTT is possibly a student at the University of Houston and is active in political matters in this area. He stated that he felt Mrs. FAWLEY, telephone number SU 2-5239, or ARLINE SMITH, telephone number JA 9-9194 of the Harris County Republican Party Headquarters would be able to furnish additional information regarding the identity of PARROTT.

BUSH stated that he was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel and return to his residence on 11-23-63. His office telephone number is CA 2-0395.

# # #



Gee. Why was Poppy Bush in Dallas when JFK was assassinated?

Could it be, he was on official business? I suspect he was on Secret Government business. After all, his eldest son bragged during his Texas Air National Guard and Harvard grad school days that his daddy was CIA.

Here's an FBI document from the same week of the assassination in which FBI Director J Edgar Hoover briefed one "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency." Some strange coincidence there, wot?



Here's a transcript of the above:



Date: November 29, 1963

To: Director
Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Department of State

From: John Edgar Hoover, Director

Subject: ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
NOVEMBER 22, 1963

Our Miami, Florida, Office on November 23, 1963, advised that the Office of Coordinator of Cuban Affairs in Miami advised that the Department of State feels some misguided anti-Castro group might capitalize on the present situation and undertake an unauthorized raid against Cuba, believing that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy might herald a change in U. S. policy, which is not true.

Our sources and informants familiar with Cuban matters in the Miami area advise that the general feeling in the anti-Castro Cuban community is one of stunned disbelief and, even among those who did not entirely agree with the President's policy concerning Cuba, the feeling is that the President's death represents a great loss not only to the U. S. but to all of Latin America. These sources know of no plans for unauthorized action against Cuba.

An informant who has furnished reliable information in the past and who is close to a small pro-Castro group in Miami has advised that these individuals are afraid that the assassination of the President may result in strong repressive measures being taken against them and, although pro-Castro in their feelings, regret the assassination.

The substance of the foregoing information was orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963, by Mr. W. T. Forsyth of this Bureau.

# # #



I do remember that GHWB was head of the CIA when the Church Committee was looking into the CIA assassination programs. He made things all friendly-like and turned what had been a serious hunt for truth under previous DCI Colby into another dog-and-pony show that was big on show and light on facts.

Regarding Dallas: Now I don't know if Poppy was a trigger man, was only there to watch what happened or what just happened to be there. I do know Poppy Bush has never explained these memos. He's never even admitted where he was the day JFK was killed.

Seeing how he would go on to become President, as would his dim son, I believe it's vitally important that we learn the Truth.

Why? The United States and the world haven't been the same since November 22, 1963. And not a single major player in the nation's mass media have stepped up and demanded a real investigation. So, it's up to us, We the People.

What's more, Poppy Bush sheltered mass-murdering jet-bombing terrorists like Luis Posada Carriles.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
13. CIA Helped Bush Senior In Vietnam Oil Venture
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:37 AM
Nov 2015

Something else Russ Baker found that sheds light on all the wars for oil we've been having forever:



CIA Helped Bush Senior In Oil Venture

A Real News exclusive, first published on The Huffington Post
By Russ Baker | January 7, 2007

Newly released internal CIA documents assert that former president George Herbert Walker Bush's oil company emerged from a 1950's collaboration with a covert CIA officer.

Bush has long denied allegations that he had connections to the intelligence community prior to 1976, when he became Central Intelligence Agency director under President Gerald Ford. At the time, he described his appointment as a 'real shocker.'

But the freshly uncovered memos contend that Bush maintained a close personal and business relationship for decades with a CIA staff employee who, according to those CIA documents, was instrumental in the establishment of Bush's oil venture, Zapata, in the early 1950s, and who would later accompany Bush to Vietnam as a “cleared and witting commercial asset” of the agency.

According to a CIA internal memo dated November 29, 1975, Bush's original oil company, Zapata Petroleum, began in 1953 through joint efforts with Thomas J. Devine, a CIA staffer who had resigned his agency position that same year to go into private business. The '75 memo describes Devine as an “oil wild-catting associate of Mr. Bush.” The memo is attached to an earlier memo written in 1968, which lays out how Devine resumed work for the secret agency under commercial cover beginning in 1963.

“Their joint activities culminated in the establishment of Zapata Oil,” the memo reads. In fact, early Zapata corporate filings do not seem to reflect Devine's role in the company, suggesting that it may have been covert. Yet other documents do show Thomas Devine on the board of an affiliated Bush company, Zapata Offshore, in January, 1965, more than a year after he had resumed work for the spy agency.

CONTINUED...

http://whowhatwhy.org/2007/01/07/cia-bush-senior-oil-venture/



PS: Thank you for the heads-up, JohnyCanuck! Poppy Bush embodies the secret government-Big Oil axis of weasels like nobody in the public's business.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
16. G.H.W. Bush the only cognizant adult in the nation at the time who can't remember where he was on
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:32 AM
Nov 2015

November 22, 1963.

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