Real names of Du'ers are being posted

[Sheepshank]

Last edited Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:33 PM - Edit history (1)

a reminder that it is against the TOS

Respect people's privacy.
Do not post or link to any private/personal information about any person, even if it is publicly available elsewhere on the Internet.

Giving out person info can be harmful as well as an invasion of privacy. The offending post was alerted on and the Jury voted to leave the post visible.

This is a tombstoning violation IMHO and I am not shy about telling the violators just that.



ETA....The Poster has finaly removed the name. And for those that asked, I will not link to the post, both to the protect the name of the person being exposed and also because the poster has finally removed the offending post.

[msongs]

1. sounds like a job for the website owners eh? nt

[bravenak]

2. Good idea to put this info out there.

We all need to be aware of this as stalking and nasty mail can result from such, indiscretions.

[Scootaloo]

3. What the hell is going on around here?

[OneGrassRoot]

5. I'm clueless, too...

Another post about members being "terminated" -- what's going on?

[Scootaloo]

7. I'm starting to feel left out, whatever it is.

[sheshe2]

19. Did you not read OP?

Your posting a members real name is a TOS violation! Stop it!

[hobbit709]

27. Whois tells you who owner of website is.

[valerief]

33. Can you do this?

[TSIAS]

67. LOL!

Forever he will be referred to as the Burger King.

[Capt. Obvious]

72. Someone is bilking people?

That's a serious charge

[sheshe2]

36. You are not suppose to post any

This is against TOS

Respect people's privacy.
Do not post or link to any private/personal information about any person, even if it is publicly available elsewhere on the Internet.

[hobbit709]

37. Who was named by me?

[roguevalley]

43. that name is next to his online image

[hobbit709]

45. So? I did not name anyone nor use an image of anyone.

[kath]

103. What about having multiple identities on DU? Is that against TOS?

What about the poster who was revealed as having several socks, yet is still here?

Or are both of these best explained by that line from Animal Farm - "all pigs are equal, but some are more equal than others"? (Not calling any DUers pigs, just quoting the book)

[KamaAina]

46. And that said owner wasn't smart enough to use Domains By Proxy

or a similar service.

[Duckhunter935]

39. Did he link to any username

No he did not

[roguevalley]

42. he uses that name for his posts. Since

he uses it, what would you suggest in place of it? Its next to his online picture.

[Go Vols]

38. results

On Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:26 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I think it's about hillaryclintonsupporters.com
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7366285

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Again a DUer violates DU rules by posting a member's real name. Whoever you support in the primaries, this is wrong.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:39 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Posting the real name of a website owner is not a DU rules violation.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's the name of someone on another site. If they're a person on du, that name is not revealed
Please just stop this nonsense
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The truth will set you free.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: That site owners name is displayed on the first page of his site. Anyone can see it. Everyone can see it. Was his DU name linked to it? No. Leave it.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Posting a real name of someone with a website and NOT connecting them with a DU name is NOT exposing someone.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Duckhunter935]

40. Sounds like someone is mad that the owner

Of that site that is targeting DU members has been publicized. Wish they would be so outspoken by the plotting and targeting of DU members by that person.

[truebrit71]

93. No shit.

Right?

[Duckhunter935]

98. sunlight can be a good thing

[kath]

101. Sunlight was a very good thing in this other thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128075924#post5

[Duckhunter935]

102. agreed

I wonder why some are so pissed it was posted to show everyone the hatred that get posted over there?

[sheshe2]

115. No hatred at DU, none at all.

[cui bono]

126. We know there is from some posters in particular...

funnily enough it's mostly the same ones that post at the Clinton Cave.

Not Enough, Bernie. Militiamen. Gun nut. Does that ring a bell?

[TSIAS]

107. I think the post in question got hidden

But it really illuminates what makes a certain poster her act the way they do.

[kath]

108. Quite illuminating. Sunlight is awesome!

[hifiguy]

130. Frankly, anyone who is over at the Sewer Site

targeting DUers should be tombstoned here, and immediately.

[Kingofalldems]

62. For the record---that is not me.

[pintobean]

75. I posted almost that exact same phrase once.

Most people know that's not you, but it's a good move to get it out there for those who don't.

[MineralMan]

87. Please self-delete. Do it now, please.

[Whiskeytide]

17. It would take a 30,000 word post to get you up to speed...

..., with links to 20 different - but related - OPs (many containing a number of replies that have been hidden). I think the post you're referring to was just a joke making fun of the dust up - but the blowback from the drama got it hidden.

Interesting couple of days on DU. Maybe things will settle down over the weekend.

[annabanana]

35. I hate primary season

It does NOT bring out the best in DUers..

[salin]

54. It's why I am only doing quick peek ins during this season.

Clueless to this drama - and think I am okay with that.

[Armstead]

92. Hi Salin /ny

[salin]

94. Now this is a treat!

Any day we cross paths makes my day brighter!

I hope you are well.

[Armstead]

95. Yes doing well.

Hope things are good with you.

I was away from here for a while, but waded into the primary pool. Whew.

[salin]

97. Things are fine here, as well.

I still wade in and out here, but less so during primary season.

So glad I waded in today - and crossed paths with you. Thanks.

[noiretextatique]

124. Hey there!

I haven't seen you in a while. Very toxic here right now. I avoid forums that I used to frequent.

[salin]

125. Hi yourself!

Have I asked this before - Did you, some time ago, change the last half of your nic? I am pretty sure you are that amazing thinker and dead-right-on sister who had a blue tone to the name. Would I be right? If not, I blame slamming into middle age (my blame for everything that I can blame on the GOP radicals.)

I have laid low for a few years (around the time of DU3) - but never left. But - I have been away more than not since the primary wars kicked in.

[noiretextatique]

128. It is me

i changed it when Obama was elected. Not that I am that happy, but it was an historic moment. So nice to see you, my friend

[salin]

129. :D

This makes me as happy, as I was to see Armstead last night! Peace to you!

[noiretextatique]

142. Likewise

[Ilsa]

74. I can barely bring myself to peek in.

I don't like the confrontations here. It can get so nasty.

[PatSeg]

76. It is definitely a rough time

I stay out of GDP and see no reason to go there. Information about the candidates is available everywhere. It feels like people only go to GDP to fight or antagonize.

Once the primaries are over, most everyone gets sane and civil again. A few mysteriously disappear until the next primary! Hmmmm

[Sheepshank]

114. For sure......

....I probably should take your stand and stay out of GDP for a while.

[PatSeg]

118. Every once and awhile,

I click on a post on the Home page and end up in GDP world, but I usually exit as quickly as possible. I don't want to relive the roller coaster ride of 2007-08. I was pretty naive back then and didn't realize Primary Season is also Troll Season!

[Sheepshank]

119. "Primary Season is also Troll Season"

Ain't that the truth. Good thing to remember

[PatSeg]

120. Yep!!!

Fighting off political trolls with one hand and corporate trolls (mostly Monsanto) with the other gets to be a bit much! At least I don't take the bait anymore.

[hifiguy]

131. Same here. Had to trash GDP.

The gunners are thick on the ground there.

[PatSeg]

133. Several of my DU friends

don't come here very often anymore, because it gets too contentious. I felt the same way, but then I realized that is one of the goals of professional trolls, to shut down meaningful discussions.

Of course primary season is full of highly opinionated, intractable people as well. They need to take a break and go for a walk!

[Fla Dem]

136. I agree, don't even go to the primaries forums. Too many zealots and trolls trying to

fracture the Democratic Party. Great effort by republicans and RW groups to disrupt and create chaos. I can't trust any of the negative vitriol vomited against any of our candidates, so I just don't read that crap.

[cwydro]

41. Cliff notes version (and I'm sure I don't know all of it):

A certain poster posted a thread that he was being targeted for "termination" from DU. He was "told" this, but no proof was ever provided on that score. No one knows who the mysterious source was (or at least I don't).

This came on the heels of another poster with a thread about yet ANOTHER poster being "targeted." Apparently, THAT poster is on suspension, which is all the "proof" one side needed to fight with the other side.

The "termination" thread blew up into a lovely circular firing squad, which is causing hysterics over at the cave, and really is pretty freaking amusing even to many of us here - were it not so damn sad and pathetic.

The "termination" thread seemed to be a fight between Sanders and Hillary supporters, as well as about some screenshots posted at some other website that supports Hillary. Why anyone cares about what another site says about anyone here, I can't answer.

In the meantime, the "termination" thread has essentially been retracted, and the source that caused the "termination" thread remains unknown/mysterious/but certainly (!)a dark sinister person stirring up stuff on DU.

The "retraction" thread has now become (or is becoming) a carbon copy of the original "termination" thread."

As usual, it is the same old posters who continue the nasty infighting. On both sides.

This really reminds me of the Lounge wars of time gone by.

Anyway, get some popcorn and settle in.

I tried to keep it brief, but lawd a'mercy, this is a DU classic.

[salin]

55. old time Lounge Wars and primary infighting

what an icky combination. Recipe for maturation regression to somewhere around middle school. That said without having seen any in this sequence except this thread. Thanks for enough of a clue (and what to steer clear of).

[cwydro]

57. I know, right?

[salin]

58. right back at ya

[Renew Deal]

70. Thanks

[snooper2]

4. posted where?

[Sheepshank]

9. Sorry...won't link to it for obvious reasons

I just don't understand why that poster did not remove it when they were told it's a violation of TOS....instead they are playing the martyr that they are being threatened.

[truebrit71]

90. Here....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=75924

[sibelian]

134. Oh, THAT?

THAT'S what this is all about?

Fucking wank.

[Rex]

138. Actually it is about the hidden post at reply #5

[riversedge]

6. Thank you so much for the post. It was alerted you say and still not deleted!!!

Shameful.

[el_bryanto]

8. That's disturbing. nt

[sufrommich]

10. Yeah,that's not cool at all. I hope you alerted on the jury. nt

[Sheepshank]

13. I saw the jury results, but I wasn't on the jury so could not alert

FWIW...in this case I don't think a "hide" would solve the problem anyway. I always unhide to read why a post was hidden, I'm pretty sure most people do that too. Problem is not solved.

[CJCRANE]

12. I miss the good ol' days when we just had a rivalry with the freepers

not with each other.

[grasswire]

24. maybe this isn't "each other"

think about it.

[Whiskeytide]

14. Can you cut and paste the post but redact ...

... the names? Or at least a little more info? I'd like to know the poster who did it and the context. I can't imagine why someone would do that.

[Nye Bevan]

15. Posted on DU or on other sites? (nt)

[Sheepshank]

16. posted here on DU n/t

[MH1]

18. Did you notify Admin? Maybe post in ATA?

If there is really personal info there they can delete the post.

[Sheepshank]

26. yes...I did that. But I just got notice that the poster deleted the offending post. updated OP.

[sheshe2]

23. It is posted in this thread as well now!

[sibelian]

135. Good thing too. This OP's just as stupid.

Streeeeeeeetch.

[Octafish]

20. Sweethearts who kill.

Remember Andy?

[cwydro]

21. Where is this?

I've been offline for a bit.

[mopinko]

22. i agree that person or people should be tombstoned.

and the post taken down.
it is not hard to find my real name, but that is my choice.

eta- people should post in ata about this.

[hobbit709]

25. Said person made no bones about his website. Said website is public info.

[Sheepshank]

28. read to TOS again. it's in the OP

trying to justify a tombstoning action doesn't make you sound all that noble.

[hobbit709]

30. Only effort I've seen is by people on that website coming here with bad intentions.

[Duckhunter935]

44. Wish you were so upset

With the plotting of DU members on that site he is proud to post own his information here on DU.

[roguevalley]

48. what was disgusting was the screed

that this person wrote about DU on their little sad site that was incredibly offensive to those here who don't support Hillary. Trailer trash etc. Too bad the people in high dudgeon here aren't offended over that shit.

[sheshe2]

104. You need a mirror~

[Duckhunter935]

106. I have a few

Thank you

[yardwork]

29. Read the Terms of Service for DU.

Do not post people's names, even if the info is publicly available elsewhere on the net.

This rule used to be sacred on DU. Since when is it ever ok to post people's personal information here?

[hobbit709]

31. I never posted any personal info.

And said person had a post when that website was started telling everyone about it.

Is it a ToS violation if self published?

[Sheepshank]

34. yes it is...read the TOS in the OP

[Duckhunter935]

47. Did you alert on the person

That self posted and contact the admins about it?

[KamaAina]

50. I just did. It reads

Do not post or link to any private/personal information about any person, even if it is publicly available elsewhere on the Internet.

His name is hardly "private/personal information". That would be his address, contact info, etc.

[panader0]

60. Should the person then alert on himself?

This is silly. It's already public knowledge--spread by said person.

[passiveporcupine]

63. What if that name is available here by the poster him/herself?

Like Alan Grayson. That is his member name here (even if he does not personally post here) and that is he name is real life.

We post real names here all the time. Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Steve Lesser. If Hillary and Bernie have anonymous accounts here, do we break the TOS every time we post their name?

Oh no, I need to be tomb-stoned because I just posted Steve Lesser's real name?

Come on people, be sensible. If you don't connect a person's real name to a DU moniker, have you given anything away? If you even imply a DU moniker connection, then, yes you have probably broken the TOS.

I'm not referring to any other thread but this one. If we are talking about another site and the owner of that site, and we post their publicly available name here as owner of that site, without linking to their moniker here, what is the problem? Is that really against the TOS?

Maybe someone needs to clarify that rule.

[yardwork]

65. Yes, the person's real life name was connected to their DU handle.

It happened in another thread, and fortunately the poster self-deleted.

Nothing I've seen in this thread is against TOS, imo.

And I didn't call for banning anybody.

[kath]

52. In fact, he says he is proud of that filthy sewer of a site that he founded.

[truebrit71]

96. Right? Pretty sure that is more worthy of a Tombstone....

.... but hey, maybe that's just me...

[sibelian]

140. He's such a prat. To think I used to respect him.

Oh, well, another illusion shattered.

[bigwillq]

49. Folks should realize that when one is on the internet

One is not really anonymous.

If rules were broken, penalties should be distributed, but folks should play at their own risk.

[seaglass]

79. I think a better idea would be no names, just a random number generated anytime you post. And no

avatars or sig lines. I wonder if we'd get along better.

[TSIAS]

53. What a load of crap

So if I start a public website, register with my real name and have it visible by even the most basic Google search, I can expect privacy?

So the guy who calls us white trailer trash is upset that someone might know his full name.

The owner of DU has a name, which is public knowledge, but I'm not allowed to refer to it on this site.

Personally, I don't know why so many here are obsessed with that sewer website. It has about 90 registered members. Giving them attention and allowing them to feel persecuted is giving them exactly what they desire.

[TacoD]

56. The real names of the DU admins are on DU's contact page

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=contact

Did I just break the TOS?

[darkangel218]

64. Lol!

[demmiblue]

59. Was it seaglass (she linked to a DUers personal information in GDP)?

I agree, a tombstoning is in order.

What a shitty thing to do.

[restorefreedom]

68. what is a tombstone in this context? nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

69. A shove out the door. nt

[restorefreedom]

84. oh. thx. nt

[Mnpaul]

100. Your profile page

gets an actual tombstone

[restorefreedom]

112. thats interesting. nt

[seaglass]

81. Um no. I linked to the person's own post ON DU where she posted her name which is not

against any rule. Go ask Skinner in ATA.

[Cha]

61. Glad the poster has removed the name.. thank you for this Sheepshank.

[rhett o rick]

89. There was no poster. nm

[Cha]

113. I believe the OP.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

66. Stop the infighting, folks. Now would not be too soon.

It's ugly,
it's destructive,
and it's stupid.

[DFW]

71. Second the motion!

Not that anyone will listen to you or me..........

[AlbertCat]

73. Any distraction....

.... to keep people here from understanding WHY any of this came to be posted.

[sibelian]

141. Oh, just let them.

It's not like we're all blind.

They're trundling around in 90s internet mindset where any information posted online is equally valuable and infects the human hive mind like a virus. They post for an imaginary internalised audience that already agrees with them and they think we're just an emergent conglomerate of inexplicable aberrations.

[Autumn]

77. OMG does Skinner know he violated the TOS for DU?????

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=contact

[Sheepshank]

80. All you smart people should rewrite TOS

You really are not coming across as being clever....just snarky and punitive.

[Autumn]

82. Any web site is going to have the founders name.

You scared the hell out of that DUer. I do appreciate the fact that you sent them a message clarifying your message you had earlier sent that had that poster so worried, but that's as far as I go.

[Sheepshank]

85. Not your decision to make...according to TOS

Respect people's privacy.
Do not post or link to any private/personal information about any person, even if it is publicly available elsewhere on the Internet.

Not sure what you don't understand about that line...hence my suggestion that you re write the TOS since you clearly have no intention of going along with the TOS already in place.

[pintobean]

83. Maybe some music to lighten things up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110727334

[Capt. Obvious]

86. Heh

[pintobean]

88. "not coming across as being clever....

just snarky and punitive."

Yeah...

[sibelian]

139. There isn't a single one of us that care how we "come across", darling.

You probably should have noticed that by now.

It's not US hiding and slithering around in websites with closed forums, now, is it?

[DFW]

78. I have been outed before. Go look me up:

Alexander Throttlebottom. I was John P. Wintergreen's right hand man, even if he hardly knew it.

I had nothing to do with the Supreme Court's decision on corn muffins, by the way.

[truebrit71]

91. Absolute bullshit, but your concern has been noted.

Glad to see that you are just as outraged about that individuals website specifically targeting DU'ers, and the wonderfully descriptive things they said about them.

I am also thrilled that you are similarly outraged that in that very same thread someone posted proof that another DU'er was actively trolling on DU.

Oh wait....

Never mind....

Oh, and aren't you using a graphic in your signature line stolen from another DU'ER?

[kath]

99. Proof that another DUer is actively trolling on DU

(And no, it is not a TOS violation to post a PM. In fact, sunlight can be a good disinfectant)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128075924#post5

[Number23]

105. I'm not even sure what this is about but all I have to do is look at the names of the people

taking such offense to know that you must be saying must be the utmost basic of common sense and decency.

[sheshe2]

109. hey #23

You are correct. There was a hide and a leave tonight same subject. Two men, different parties. I will say no more here.

Good to see you.

[Number23]

110. I don't know what you're referring to and I don't really need to.

I'm just sick of the same folks over and over and over and over again shitting all over this web site and the people within it that support Democrats.

[sheshe2]

111. I hear you.

Good news, I made my quarterly sales. Lol~ Bad news I have the flu.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

[Cha]

116. Now there's some thread saying A lot of people posted their real names here.. well good on them..

but not really the point,

They revealed their own names.. did not take the liberty of posting someone else's name for them.

They're so fucking big into privacy except when it comes to someone else's.

[Sheepshank]

117. Someone reveals their own name.....and?

Good for them, I suppose.

[ScreamingMeemie]

122. I've had 4,500 crank calls... not really

Just a Jehovah's Witness at the door, but they know I never answer.

[Sheepshank]

123. Lol

[Duckhunter935]

127. well I for one

find your sig line childish and offensive, I hope you are proud of yourself. It would go a long way of being civil if you did not poke a proverbial stick at all Bernie supporters.

Of course it is not the French flag and people who I wholly support.

[Sheepshank]

132. I tend to change my sig line all the time

Just look away and poof, before you know it, it will have changed.

How do yo feel about the Stockholm Syndrome portion of my siggy line?

[ScreamingMeemie]

121. Ahem...

I hope you are having a wonderful day, Cha...

The intent of my post, using the title of this post, was to remember a time when we didn't spend quite as much time yelling at each other.

Take care.

[Orrex]

137. Dr. Strange's real name is Stinky Fishbottom