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Laurian

(2,593 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:57 PM Nov 2015

Anyone remember CNN and Poppy Bush's Gulf War?

I think that was an absolute ratings and revenue bonanza for CNN and all the cable networks look for opportunities to replicate it. The constant beating of the war drums over this past week with ALL of the anchors/correspondents flocking to Paris has worn me out and pissed me off.

I've turned off the TV.

I hold the media responsible for a lot of the hate and immigrant bashing that has come gushing to the surface. Shame on them. This story should have reverted to short updates after the first couple of days instead of the continuing, 24 hour a day horror fest it has become.

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Anyone remember CNN and Poppy Bush's Gulf War? (Original Post) Laurian Nov 2015 OP
I said last year here on DU that we're in the War On Terror Redux. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #1
I remember Blitzer's war countdown clock sailfla Nov 2015 #2
War drums roll! summerschild Nov 2015 #3
Nation's eyes were on the SCUD Stud. And no one asked why Poppy lied America into war. Octafish Nov 2015 #4
"And no one asked why Poppy lied America into war." EX500rider Nov 2015 #5
''President Bush, too, wants friendship.'' -- April Glaspie to Saddam Hussein Octafish Nov 2015 #6
Saying: EX500rider Nov 2015 #8
It is in diplomatic language. nt CJCRANE Nov 2015 #9
Yes it is....but saying you have no side in a border dispute.. EX500rider Nov 2015 #13
That could also be called a double-cross or leading someone into a trap. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #20
I guess some forget how Poppy told his buddies they could drill vertically into Iraq territory. Rex Nov 2015 #16
Like a Well Oiled Machine Octafish Nov 2015 #19
LOL! Poppy knew as soon as he gave Kuwait the greenlight to drill vertically it would cause a war! Rex Nov 2015 #15
Really? Kuwait had to get US permission to drill? Unlikely EX500rider Nov 2015 #18
Scud Stud was not the only winner in this war JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2015 #17
The SCUD Stud refused his assignment Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #21
I remember that. It was sickening. treestar Nov 2015 #7
Shock and Awe! Sorties! Pretty bomb blasts lighting up the night sky! Boomerproud Nov 2015 #11
Hey, it worked for William Randolph Hearst with the Spanish-American War. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #10
The little tent city wherever CNN is stationed in Paris is creepy. Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #12
It was the day the music died. Rex Nov 2015 #14
My eldest son is a disabled veteran of that war, so I'll NEVER forget it. Pathwalker Nov 2015 #22
I am so sorry. The media's constant use of war terminology Laurian Nov 2015 #24
My heart goes out to you. TM99 Nov 2015 #28
Sure, I remember. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #23
I ryan_cats Nov 2015 #25
I remember it well. nruthie Nov 2015 #26
I blame our government. bigwillq Nov 2015 #27

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. I said last year here on DU that we're in the War On Terror Redux.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:01 PM
Nov 2015

It just took a bit longer to finally kick off but all the signs have been there for a while now.

summerschild

(725 posts)
3. War drums roll!
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:36 PM
Nov 2015

World War III.

Brought to you by your friendly COMCAST corporation and all their usual media buds.

Lots of nice new KOCH energy commercials, too.

What a bunch of boobs we are....

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Nation's eyes were on the SCUD Stud. And no one asked why Poppy lied America into war.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:53 PM
Nov 2015

The warmongers trotted out the Kuwait ambassador's daughter to testify under oath to Congress she was a nurse at a Kuwaiti City hospital who saw the Iraqi soldiers take babies from their incubators and leave them on the cold, hard floor so they could steal the machines for the Thief of Baghdad, Poppy's former errand boy and erstwhile business partner, Saddam Hussein.



"If I wanted to lie, or if we wanted to lie, if we wanted to exaggerate, I wouldn't use my daughter to do so. I could easily buy other people to do it." -- Kuwait Ambassador

http://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
5. "And no one asked why Poppy lied America into war."
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:58 PM
Nov 2015

The war was to expel the Iraqi's from Kuwait....that was no lie, they did invade their much smaller neighbor in a aggressive war.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
8. Saying:
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:22 PM
Nov 2015

"We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait."

Is not the same as "Go ahead and invade!"

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
13. Yes it is....but saying you have no side in a border dispute..
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:53 PM
Nov 2015

.....is not the same as a green light to conquer and annex a neighboring country. As Hussein found out.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
20. That could also be called a double-cross or leading someone into a trap.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 06:08 PM
Nov 2015

Implicit and explicit meanings are quite well-known in diplomatic language.

The Downing Street Memo illustrated a more obvious example of the west trying to lead Saddam into a trap by baiting him to shoot down a US or UN plane.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. I guess some forget how Poppy told his buddies they could drill vertically into Iraq territory.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:03 PM
Nov 2015

And I know they loath those of us that will not forget it either.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
19. Like a Well Oiled Machine
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:14 PM
Nov 2015
Cheney Coordinated Halliburton Iraq Contract: Report

Agence France Presse, May 31, 2004
 
WASHINGTON - A Pentagon e-mail said Vice President Dick Cheney coordinated a huge Halliburton government contract for Iraq, despite Cheney's denial of interest in the company he ran until 2000.

The March 5, 2003 e-mail, from an Army Corps of Engineers official, said that top Pentagon official Douglas Feith got the job of shepherding the contract, according to the newsweekly Time that hits newsstands Monday.

Feith had approved the multi-billion-dollar deal "contingent on informing WH (the White House) tomorrow. We anticipate no issues since action has been coordinated w(ith) VP's (vice president's) office," said the e-mail obtained by Time.

The newsweekly said it was three days later that Halliburton won the contract, although no other bids had been submitted.

"As vice president, I have absolutely no influence of, involvement of, knowledge of in any way, shape or form of contracts led by the Corps of Engineers or anybody else in the federal government," Cheney told NBC's "Meet the Press" in September, Time said.

Cheney had been Halliburton's CEO until 2000, when he accepted the vice presidential spot.

CONTINUED...

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0531-02.htm

Doug Feith was called the fucking stupidest man on planet by Gen. Tommy Franks. He's got competition.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. LOL! Poppy knew as soon as he gave Kuwait the greenlight to drill vertically it would cause a war!
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:02 PM
Nov 2015

Ah...so many people want to rewrite history or omit the important factors. Of course Saddam was stupid enough to take the bait.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/23/opinion/23iht-edcool.t.html

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
21. The SCUD Stud refused his assignment
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:29 PM
Nov 2015

to cover the war in the Balkans, quit his network TV job and went back to Canada.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. I remember that. It was sickening.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 01:17 PM
Nov 2015

So many people treating it like a Big Show. It was entertainment, really.

At least, looking back, they were honest. Saddam could not have control over the oil. That's what we were "fighting" for, said out loud straight up like that.

And how they loved all the rockets and new military toys, made me sick. I met very few people who were not excited as all get out about that.

Boomerproud

(7,961 posts)
11. Shock and Awe! Sorties! Pretty bomb blasts lighting up the night sky!
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:22 PM
Nov 2015

The only time I heard honest reporting was when whats-his-name on CNN was hiding under a bed in a Baghdad hotel room with American bombs falling on top of him. The local news outlets were even worse with their cheerleading, if that's possible. Makes me sick thinking about it.

Ace Rothstein

(3,177 posts)
12. The little tent city wherever CNN is stationed in Paris is creepy.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:25 PM
Nov 2015

I think they've sent half their anchors over there. Everything is also BREAKING NEWS. Just awful coverage, no shame.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. It was the day the music died.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:58 PM
Nov 2015

Objective journalism went out the window on that day. CNN reporters running along side marines as they started their invasion of Iraq, "are you here invading Iraq?" "What are your plans?"

It was one of the most surreal moments in my lifetime. I was half convinced some of those marines were going to shoot the reporters for getting in the middle of a miltary operation.

After that, they were all embedded. And the beat rolls on.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
22. My eldest son is a disabled veteran of that war, so I'll NEVER forget it.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:52 PM
Nov 2015

Any of it. It made me diabetic. It made my son disabled.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
24. I am so sorry. The media's constant use of war terminology
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:02 AM
Nov 2015

and relentless coverage of incidents such as the one in Paris must be especially painful for you and your family.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
28. My heart goes out to you.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:43 AM
Nov 2015

I am a veteran of that war as well. I do not have the physical scars, but I sure have the mental ones. My young eyes were thrust wide open for the first time then.

I lost a close friend from college who was an Apache pilot. The second Gulf War has overshadowed how bad that war was as well.

I am so sorry.

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
25. I
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:18 AM
Nov 2015

I remember the buildup.
Then I remember the feeling in the pit of my stomach once it kicked off and then the jubilation about it by everyone I knew except me.
Wasn't a fan then nor now.

nruthie

(466 posts)
26. I remember it well.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:32 AM
Nov 2015

And yes, the media loves a good war. They get to wear their long somber faces and their patriotic pins and dream up catchy phrases and martial music. They are having a field day with it all.

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