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spanone

(135,855 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:50 PM Nov 2015

Paris is attacked and America freaks out.

truly, from what i've observed on the 'news' channels, the French are handling the bombing of their country much better than America.

This country has blamed it's President, walked away from it's principles, turned our backs on the refugees/victims... and in doing so, thoroughly politicized it.

a vote has already been voted on and approved in congress that would in effect, halt the resettlement of refugees from Syria and Iraq to the US.

meanwhile the French are still allowing 30,000 refugees to enter their country.

makes no sense to me.


insanity.






http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-congress-refugees-20151119-story.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hollande-france-plans-to-take-in-30000-refugees-over-two-years_564c78bae4b06037734bb934
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Paris is attacked and America freaks out. (Original Post) spanone Nov 2015 OP
I'm trying to figure out how... one_voice Nov 2015 #1
Also, Hillary's. Amazing. bettyellen Nov 2015 #2
Yep..they're trying to tie it to.. one_voice Nov 2015 #3
Sheesh right wingers treestar Nov 2015 #7
It's all part of the neocon plans for forever war. America is NOT freaking out, I haven't met a sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #4
It's funny FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #19
Hey sabrina, sheshe2 Nov 2015 #23
Remember England was bombed daily in WWII katmondoo Nov 2015 #5
Yes we collectively lost out sh*t underpants Nov 2015 #6
We need to cut "home of the brave" from our national anthem. City Lights Nov 2015 #8
+1000 ^ world wide wally Nov 2015 #17
I don't feel like I am freaking out bigwillq Nov 2015 #9
It's worse than after 9/11 alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #10
Over 11,000 people have died because of gun violence in America so far but... 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #11
America is a piece of dirt between two oceans Trajan Nov 2015 #12
Paris is attacked and America freaks out. Mali, Somalia, and Lebanon are attacked and America yawns Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #13
And Nigeria KamaAina Nov 2015 #15
Yes. And Iraq, Cameroon, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey, and Niger -- none of these recent terrorist Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #18
Perhaps because none of the attackers were refugees? KamaAina Nov 2015 #14
Well, when we were attacked on 911, the US invaded a country that had nothing tblue37 Nov 2015 #16
They have to freak out over something gratuitous Nov 2015 #20
I think it's because it's a place USAers can picture themselves loyalsister Nov 2015 #21
10.10.2015 - 2 suicide bombs kill 102 in Turkey plus 38 in Chad. 10.5.2015 - car bomb kills 57 in Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #22
For many or most on the Right, it's just an excuse. Hissyspit Nov 2015 #24
I'm tired of the "Terror attack in Paris? Now the US needs to send in ground troops TwilightGardener Nov 2015 #25
9/11 RayLib Nov 2015 #26
Welcome to DU. You give them too much credit. It's hate born of ignorance and fear. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #27
Them RayLib Nov 2015 #28
Did you NOT say "for many Americans?" ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #31
Who funded 9/11? Who executed it? What was their ultimate aim. Welcome to DU. uppityperson Nov 2015 #36
Hello. bigwillq Nov 2015 #33
I hope you get a chance to say goodbye. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #34
Bye, Felicia. bigwillq Nov 2015 #35
Handing the terrorists what they want, fear, is natural to the fearmongering GOP...brethren in fear! Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #29
We scare easily and have the nerve to call the French cowards. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #30
The media isn't america Egnever Nov 2015 #32
America is NOT the "home of the brave" just because it's in our National Song. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #37

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
1. I'm trying to figure out how...
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:54 PM
Nov 2015

it's Obama's fault. Why are people (repukes) blaming him for the attack in Paris? Is he President of the world now?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. Sheesh right wingers
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:59 PM
Nov 2015

Yes, it's all Obama's fault! Probably for not continuing the wars Bush started,which obviously did zero to stop terrorist attacks.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. It's all part of the neocon plans for forever war. America is NOT freaking out, I haven't met a
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:57 PM
Nov 2015

single American who is freaked out at all. They are more concerned about what is going on right here. And most are sick of the FEAR Propaganda.

The only people I see freaking out is the Corporate Media.

Turn them off and you would not know what happened in France.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
19. It's funny
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:29 PM
Nov 2015

when decoding their reality becomes second nature, one questions how everyone does not see the obvious. Even my teenage son completely understands it. But many adults in my life either do not understand or fear acknowledging the truth.

sheshe2

(83,825 posts)
23. Hey sabrina,
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:47 PM
Nov 2015

Ya gotta admit the GOPers are freaking out as well. I am from a very Blue State that for some strange reason elects to many GOP Governors.

He is puffing out his chest and refuses entry, for the safety of our State.

The rest I agree with you on. This is just an addition.

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
5. Remember England was bombed daily in WWII
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:58 PM
Nov 2015

Thousands lost their lives but the people never gave up, they fought on in every way they could. In comparison we sound like cowards

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
9. I don't feel like I am freaking out
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:00 PM
Nov 2015

But the Paris attack was a good time to reevaluate priorities.

The USA should focus on taking care of 30,000 folks (just using the France # the article listed) already living in the USA before allowing anyone else in.

Makes sense to me.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
10. It's worse than after 9/11
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:01 PM
Nov 2015

It really is.

There was a kind of shock about open bigotry towards Muslims then. Now, we have open, vicious bigots running around even Democratic message boards spewing their vile, racist shit. It's really gotten bad.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
11. Over 11,000 people have died because of gun violence in America so far but...
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:01 PM
Nov 2015

We freak out over 125 people getting killed in France and pass laws to ban people from entering the country based on their religion and ethnicity.

125 deaths is a typical weekend in the US and that's just due to gang related violence in metropolitan dumps like Chicago, Detroit, NY, Los Angeles and Houston.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
12. America is a piece of dirt between two oceans
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:02 PM
Nov 2015

And a very large group of people ...

Did every single person do this? ... No ... A small segment did ... Specifically, republicans and other conservatives ...

So, please .. Don't lump everybody into this subset off humanity ... 'America' didn't do anything ... Some Americans did ...

Sweeping generalizations are a pet peeve ...

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
18. Yes. And Iraq, Cameroon, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey, and Niger -- none of these recent terrorist
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:25 PM
Nov 2015

attacks (except today's attack in Mali, and that's only because it came in the wake of the Paris attack) got any significant media coverage.

tblue37

(65,457 posts)
16. Well, when we were attacked on 911, the US invaded a country that had nothing
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:23 PM
Nov 2015

to do with the attack, so being terrified and freaking out over an attack that wasn't aimed at us is just being consistent.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. They have to freak out over something
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:32 PM
Nov 2015

It's not like President Obama received a memo saying "ISIS determined to strike inside U.S." then went on a month-long vacation, to return just in time for the symbols of our military and financial capitals to be attacked. Can you imagine how the Republicans would have reacted to that? I mean, they're still out of their collective gourds that in the immediate aftermath of the Benghazi riot, the administration didn't know every last detail of the attackers, their motivation, their mindset, and their Netflix queue, which is evidence of something, just nobody knows quite what.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
21. I think it's because it's a place USAers can picture themselves
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:37 PM
Nov 2015

Most countries exist only in the abstract to people here. Western Europe, from which we hail, is conceptually different to average USAers.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
22. 10.10.2015 - 2 suicide bombs kill 102 in Turkey plus 38 in Chad. 10.5.2015 - car bomb kills 57 in
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 06:41 PM
Nov 2015

Iraq. 10.23.2015 - 3 bombings kill 38 in Nigeria plus 22 in Pakistan. 10.14.2015 - suicide bomb kill 42 in Nigeria. 11.12.2015 - suicide bomb kills 43 in Lebanon. 11.17.2015 - bombing kills 34 (plus more still to be found) in Nigeria.

This is just a fraction of the total over the past six weeks.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
25. I'm tired of the "Terror attack in Paris? Now the US needs to send in ground troops
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:37 PM
Nov 2015

and have a REAL war!" bullshit.

 

RayLib

(37 posts)
26. 9/11
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:11 PM
Nov 2015

For many Americans, the scars of 9/11 run deep. The loss of the sense of invulnerability was reinforced with Paris, and they want to avoid that here.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
27. Welcome to DU. You give them too much credit. It's hate born of ignorance and fear.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:15 PM
Nov 2015

That's all. We're not looking to limit white men in theaters. It's time to stop digging up the 9/11 bogeyman as a reason to hate people today. It's a conservative tactic (wait? what?) and it doesn't wear well.

Take care now.

 

RayLib

(37 posts)
28. Them
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:21 PM
Nov 2015

Just who is them? For a moment in time, we all mourned and felt the loss. Some have not forgotten who funded it, who executed it, and what their ultimate aim is. We of course should not overreact, but to ignore the feelings of many (majority?) Americans would be seen as tone deaf, and politically suicidal for us.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
31. Did you NOT say "for many Americans?"
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:30 PM
Nov 2015

Those would be "them." Many of other Americans are not "them." Get it?

We have overreacted. Lesson number one: You can't conduct a war against a feeling.

Lesson number two: Give me liberty or give me death. <<<That's important to me and on feelings of potential threats, I'm more concerned about a beer-guzzling, gun toting white man than I am of a family of Syrian refugees.

Americans, by your way of thinking (or maybe it's your way of thinking, which would make you the "them" you brought up and I responded to), would be on the wrong side of history and let a genocidal atrocity repeat itself again.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
29. Handing the terrorists what they want, fear, is natural to the fearmongering GOP...brethren in fear!
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:24 PM
Nov 2015

I did not think I could hate what they are more....but today I do.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
32. The media isn't america
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 08:42 PM
Nov 2015

Though a good portion of america does follow it like good little drones.

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