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LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:22 PM Nov 2015

Waffle House waitress shot and killed after asking a man not to smoke

From RawStory:

An enraged Waffle House customer shot and killed a waitress early Friday who asked him not to smoke.

Police said Johnny Mount was eating about 1 a.m. at the restaurant in Biloxi, Mississippi, when he lit a cigarette, reported WLOX-TV.

A waitress asked the 45-year-old Mount to put out the cigarette or smoke outside, and he began arguing with her.

Police said Mount then pulled out a 9 mm handgun he had concealed under his shirt and shot the 52-year-old waitress in the head.

She was taken to a nearby hospital but died from her wounds.
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Waffle House waitress shot and killed after asking a man not to smoke (Original Post) LongTomH Nov 2015 OP
A Good Guy with a -- villager Nov 2015 #1
Another responsible gun owner. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #2
Why do we let everyone and their crazy brother have firearms in public? -none Nov 2015 #3
I hope they don't give him any cigs in prison, or nicotine patches, or any relief whatsoever zazen Nov 2015 #4
An armed society is a polite society. n/t Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #5
Dang, it's a good thing Johnny Mount had his gun gratuitous Nov 2015 #6
WTF! What goes on in the minds of people... 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #7
... Major Nikon Nov 2015 #18
There must be more to it than that. 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #25
Not really Major Nikon Nov 2015 #28
"I have a gun. I'll show her who's boss." Iggo Nov 2015 #22
Hunh, nobody gonna tell ME what to do Warpy Nov 2015 #27
Second Amendment Remedies. nt onehandle Nov 2015 #8
OMG! Delphinus Nov 2015 #9
That poor woman was someone's wife, mother, sister, daughter. Working on Thanksgiving...Too sad..nt monmouth4 Nov 2015 #10
If she was black, he could just say he was "standing his ground" world wide wally Nov 2015 #11
Do we even know what race she was? cwydro Nov 2015 #20
Does it matter? Warpy Nov 2015 #29
I only replied to the previous post. cwydro Nov 2015 #31
That's fucked up. romanic Nov 2015 #12
Weird. Doesn't sound quite like first-degree murder, does it? Orsino Nov 2015 #13
Second degree murder; spur of the moment. ManiacJoe Nov 2015 #36
He was a responsible gun owner who had a constitutional right to own and carry. Kaleva Nov 2015 #14
He smokes because it relaxes him. Dr. Strange Nov 2015 #15
I wonder if it's the Waffle House I go to sometimes. LuvNewcastle Nov 2015 #16
1st Degree Murder? toddwv Nov 2015 #17
He pulled out a gun and shot her in the head. LisaL Nov 2015 #23
Sorry toddwv Nov 2015 #24
If someone is carrying a gun around, that person is... 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #26
IANAL, but I have had it explained to me MH1 Nov 2015 #35
The NRA solution... workinclasszero Nov 2015 #19
One restaurant in Colorado has armed waitress Floyd Steinberg Nov 2015 #33
Gunfuckers gonna gunfuck. Iggo Nov 2015 #21
omg Marrah_G Nov 2015 #30
Sick bastard should be locked up for the rest of his natural life. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #32
Guns make them feel entitled and invincible. nt tblue37 Nov 2015 #34

-none

(1,884 posts)
3. Why do we let everyone and their crazy brother have firearms in public?
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:25 PM
Nov 2015

Keep your guns at home where you are more likely to knock off friends and relatives.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
4. I hope they don't give him any cigs in prison, or nicotine patches, or any relief whatsoever
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:29 PM
Nov 2015

A 52-year-old waitress working in the middle of the night? Here she is doing all the right things and busting her behind and legs running around serving people, at that age, and this selfish bastard does this. Poor woman.

Kind of wish she had fired a gun at his friggin' lit cigarette instead. Goddamn I hate people who toxify my environment with their filthy, asthma, cancer-inducing second hand smoke.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Dang, it's a good thing Johnny Mount had his gun
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 05:35 PM
Nov 2015

Otherwise, he would have just had to go home and grouse about the smoking nazi waitress down to the Waffle House. Instead, he was able to solve the argument once and for all, and that waitress will know better next time not to hassle the paying customers.

Nope, applying "the police are always right" logic to this murderous incident still just sounds stupid, even when the murderer isn't a cop.

3catwoman3

(24,051 posts)
25. There must be more to it than that.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:25 PM
Nov 2015

I don't own any guns, nor do I plan to, and I have never even held one. I do have knives in my kitchen, quite a few, and many would make suitable weapons. I cannot imagine myself ever being tempted to use one on anybody.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
28. Not really
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:40 PM
Nov 2015

Everyone is subject to having the emotional side of their brain taking over the rational side. When that happens, one is far more likely to use a deadly weapon if they have one. The morons that can't seem to leave home without precious either are ignorant of this or they don't care. I'm not sure which is worse.

Warpy

(111,352 posts)
27. Hunh, nobody gonna tell ME what to do
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:34 PM
Nov 2015

And that mindset is behind 90% of the problem with this country.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
13. Weird. Doesn't sound quite like first-degree murder, does it?
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:47 PM
Nov 2015

Maybe there was a history between the gunman and the victim?

Kaleva

(36,351 posts)
14. He was a responsible gun owner who had a constitutional right to own and carry.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:51 PM
Nov 2015

Until he shot the waitress.

Now he isn't considered a responsible gun owner but that doesn't do the dead waitress much good.

LuvNewcastle

(16,858 posts)
16. I wonder if it's the Waffle House I go to sometimes.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

The one I visit is downtown. It's across the street from a couple of big casinos. People go in there to sober up all the time. We have a few Waffle Houses in Biloxi, but I'm thinking it might be that one. I hope the waitress's family is able to find peace after this.

Smoking in restaurants is still legal in Biloxi, if the restaurant wants to allow it. Waffle House changed its smoking policy fairly recently. I never thought it would come to this, not in this town, anyway. It's a very sad day.

On edit: I just read at another source that this didn't happen at the WH I visit. I didn't know the poor lady, thank God.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
17. 1st Degree Murder?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:26 PM
Nov 2015

That won't stick. Is he a murderer? Definitely. Should he be locked up for life? Absolutely.

But proving intent will be a difficult task.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
24. Sorry
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:28 PM
Nov 2015

I should have used "premeditation" instead of intent. His intent was obvious but did he go to the restaurant planning on shooting somebody?

I'd rather see him locked up for life than getting off because of a technicality like planning ahead of time.

Remember, they can only charge him once. I'd rather see a charge that will definitely end up with a conviction than one that lets the perp walk.

3catwoman3

(24,051 posts)
26. If someone is carrying a gun around, that person is...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:29 PM
Nov 2015

...at least willing to and prepared to shoot someone, or they wouldn't be carrying the damn thing.

MH1

(17,604 posts)
35. IANAL, but I have had it explained to me
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015

that depending on the state, "premeditation" doesn't mean what we non-lawyers generally think it means. "Premeditation" can happen in a very short time, as part of the incident. Depends on the law of that particular state. Again, this is what has been explained to me.

I don't know any reason they would deliberately over-charge in this case.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. The NRA solution...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:33 PM
Nov 2015

All waitresses must be armed by law.

And they got some fine killin machines ready to sell you folks.

Unrestrained, unregulated capitalism will kill us all. This is just one example.

Iggo

(47,568 posts)
21. Gunfuckers gonna gunfuck.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:34 PM
Nov 2015

(And of course I'm referring to Mr Mount, not any of DU's own firearm enthusiasts.)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
32. Sick bastard should be locked up for the rest of his natural life.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:32 PM
Nov 2015

God, I go on vacation and come back to all hell breaking loose. Poor woman.

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