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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStudents: Rename building called 'Lynch' after ex-president (not the Onion)
The building is named after Clyde A. Lynch, who was president of Lebanon Valley College from 1932 until his death in 1950.
Students want school officials to either rename the building entirely or add Lynch's first name and middle initial, saying the word recalls the public executions of black men by white mobs in the late 1800s and early 1900s.
It was included on a list of demands that students presented to the school on Friday. Other demands include a more diverse curriculum, more sensitivity training for staff and regular surveys of the racial climate on campus.
http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20151208_ap_6d12912e4b50492b9a3cbf68d9e7f0c7.html#r8EwoXCuW7PfMVk7.99
I guess when students are desperately seeking stuff to be offended about a sign that includes the word "Lynch" is an irresistible target.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)linuxman
(2,337 posts)Holy shit. I'm not even sure how to respond to this.
Our nation's future.
marmar
(77,088 posts)..... the rest of the demands seem perfectly reasonable.
PersonNumber503602
(1,134 posts)If I didn't personally know some people with this mindset, I would think these ideas were being planted as a form of sabotoge. Which even if that was the case, that doesn't let these people off the hook for being stupid enough to think it makes sense. I wonder how much of this comes from the mindset that all ideas from out friends/allies/whatever are good ideas that we must support. I've seen that a bit, and never really understood why people are reluctant to tell some people that they don't agree with everything they say just because they support many of the same causes. I am rambling. Sorry.
Dorian Gray
(13,499 posts)it makes me roll my eyes at them and ignore the more important things that should be discussed. I'd move on to other people who don't include ridiculous demands.
Throd
(7,208 posts)I applaud them in their efforts, if only for comedic purposes.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)This is so ridiculous, all I can do is laugh.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)isn't it?
And these are college students?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I'm more of a beaver guy.
lancer78
(1,495 posts)A whole foods grocery in the tiwn?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Township75
(3,535 posts)We could start a Do Not Hire national database. Seriously could you imagine having to work with people like this??!
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)"are you now or have you ever been part of a protest movement for something completely fucking ridiculous?"
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Not to mention the Attorney General and Seattle's star running back, both of whom are African American.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)about the Potatoes and Dan Snyder.
PersonNumber503602
(1,134 posts)One good thing is that the more ridiculous things like this are not being received well in general. I just hope that sinks in and they realize they are doing more harm than good. It just makes it harder to defend more legimate issues when people on the other side can lump everything in with bs like this.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Imagine when they start entering the workplace-
All the poor HR managers and directors of the World
HELP HELP somebody entered my SAFE SPACE!
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I can certainly understand why you focus on and lampoon merely one of their many request, as it would serve your bias poorly to mock a diverse curriculum or surveys on racial climate. I'd also do my best to pretend that wasn't the case at all, and possibly even act offended myself at the mere suggestion.
Goodness... college students behaving silly. What a sad state of affairs we've come to
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)All the stories about this focus on the "Lynch" issue.
1939
(1,683 posts)Is there a special version of differential equations for POC?
edhopper
(33,606 posts)they don't want his name taken away.Just asks for the full name.
kiva
(4,373 posts)about the name of the building...since this is college and they are presumably improving their critical thinking skills.
edhopper
(33,606 posts)they just don't like the way it sounds and the connotations.
Students want school officials to either rename the building entirely or add Lynch's first name and middle initial, saying the word recalls the public executions of black men by white mobs in the late 1800s and early 1900s.
kiva
(4,373 posts)I simply think the students are wrong. Who exactly are they worried about misinterpreting the name? If they know why it's called the Lynch building, who else do they think will be talking about the building? Parents? Other students?
If they truly can't let such a word pass their lips, maybe they can refer to it as "The building that shall be nameless" or maybe "The building that I go to for the critical thinking class that I'm failing."
edhopper
(33,606 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)It could be very jarring for a first time visitor to the campus who doesn't have the proper context. Seems like a reasonable enough request.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)College buildings are generally named after their purpose (Science A, West Gym) or after a person. We have a building on my campus named Seimen Hall, pronounced "semen hall." It's the butt of occasional jokes, but no one really thinks it's named for ejaculate.
teenagebambam
(1,592 posts)and legitimately believes that an educational building was named after the act of lynching deserves to be jarred.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)BLUE VELVET, ERASERHEAD, and DUNE
Okay, honestly, they're probably not showing Dune anyway
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)so they must.
But over my dead body.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)No hay orchestra.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)The "local art theater" is probably in Baltimore. The college is a church school-- Methodist, IIRC? I think parents send their kids there because just about the worst trouble they can get into is cow tipping Mennonite Guernseys.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Add that to our list of demands!!
Cretins.
romanic
(2,841 posts)Plain and simple.
Warpy
(111,332 posts)By objecting to things like common surnames, they're making some legitimate objections to hate speech look frivolous by association.
At some point, people are going to have to look at these obstreporous brats and tell them "NO!"
This might be one of those times.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)...or a hall named after Hogg as at U. of Texas.
Bucky
(54,041 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)or Dick Hertz!!
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Matariki
(18,775 posts)The county I live in renamed itself from King County (after William R.) to King County (after Martin Luther). A marked improvement, I'd say
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Is a real name. If she that had been the name of the college president how many people would like the name of the hall to be the
Rape Memorial Hall. The request is not ridiculous at all.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)far be it for me to suggest that people try to grasp both the context and complexity of language instead of knee-jerking against a name which is the same as a different word but contains a completely different underlying meaning.
Yes, much better to eliminate wrongthink and reduce language to the most bare essentials because speech is bad and dangerous and doubleplusungood.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It must be uber expensive to add the first name to the hall and or to put his initials on the plaque.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)and this is well into silliness territory.
I don't think the current Attorney General is any great shakes, but should she eventually become a historical figure of great reknown, what then? She can't have any stuff named after her because her last name happens to be synonymous with a violent act?
Should we rename Kill Devil Hills because the name promotes murder and devil worship?
Also, college students are supposed to be operating on a certain intellectual level. One hopes (at least I do) that that level is at least advanced enough that they are able to comprehend the difference - and that there IS a difference - between the linguistic semantic representation of the thing (i.e. words) and that which the word represents.
To do otherwise is to confuse the map with the territory, the menu with the meal.
In this case, though, I guess not.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)it seems more an act of obstinace than an intellectual exercise, but each to their own I guess.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)it doesn't mean even close to the same thing, and it is the meaning - not the series of letters - that is the thing they have their problem with.
Beyond that, I don't really care what this particular school does, but I think this is silly, to the point where I read these stories and I seriously start to wonder if some of this shit isn't some kind of deep cover Koch-bros funded performance art with the express purpose of making "liberals" look ridiculous.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)How dare you muck up the narrative like that? Don't you know good liberals who watch Bill Maher and jerk off to South Park have to complain incessantly about minorities and college students? It's in the code!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The stupid is pretty thick with this one.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)mmmm, lunch
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I guess despite her position of historic prominence, she can never have anything named after her.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)It was a pretty parochial place twenty years ago, in every sense of the word.
Initech
(100,100 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)For this post
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I know them, and the real children are the people who get off on making themselves feel surperior by minimizing what they go through.
Facility Inspector
(615 posts)I mean, some places don't even have wifi!
Horror!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I repeat, Jebus Haploid Christ in combat boots.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)the systemic racism that defines their experience and where it began while obnoxious white people intentionally disregarded and dismissed what kind of meaning they might find in knowing that a university campus built by slaves has buildings named after prominant slave owners as is the case in Columbia, MO.
Yet, white people (even DUers) are offended at the suggestion that they should take an interest in the experience of anyone but their narcissitic selves.
How many white people have to walk by a building and be reminded of what happened to uncle Charlie at the hands of the KKK? At the very least people could listen and have a little sympathy for what it might be like rather than deriding and ridiculing them.