So, I'm confused... Is alerting justifiable to both alert a possible TOS violation and...

[ChisolmTrailDem]

...to stifle someone's speech/opinion/comment that does not violate TOS but does offend some people?

[merrily]

1. So I know if this thread will be locked as meta or not, do you support Hillary or Bernie?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

4. I will vote for the Democratic nominee. nt

[merrily]

7. Cool, but that does not seem to be relevant to the locking of threads as meta.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

13. You asked me about Bernie and Hillary. That's my answer. nt

[merrily]

14. I asked in the context of threads being locked though.

My point is not about you in the least, but about the "consensus" of hosts in certain groups.

[ileus]

2. words are hurtful and mean when I don't agree with them...

[KamaAina]

3. This is why we have Ask the Administrators

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1259

unless, of course, you were being sarcastic, as I suspect you were.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

5. I was. It's a rhetorical question, not one meant to force change to any policy. nt

[LanternWaste]

6. The pretense of confusion certainly allows another

The pretense of confusion certainly allows another mechanism from which to rationalize boorish and intolerant buffoonery as sincere and progressive.

[Tipperary]

26. Your posts crack me up.

just sayin.

[Kalidurga]

8. iblt

only if you say something not complimentary to Hillary.

[Eleanors38]

9. Possible to get an over-the-top "hide" by "misinterpreting" SOP.

[sharp_stick]

10. It depends on the jury you get

I've seen some really pathetic crap being alerted on, usually because the alerter isn't happy with the tone of someone not supporting their candidate. If enough fellow travelers are on the jury off it goes.

[Hoppy]

11. I have been on D.U. for several years. I alerted once. I voted to ban a post on two occasions.

My feelings are if a post offends you, get a life.

The two posts I voted to ban, one was overtly racist (I am a honkey) and the other was a direct attack on another poster.

[randome]

12. This thread is so confusing!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[ChisolmTrailDem]

15. I was just part of a jury a few moments ago. I voted to leave the post because it did not...

...violate DU's TOS. When I got my email thanking me for my jury service, the thread was hidden anyway and, based on the explanations given, was hidden because people didn't like the person's comment, not because it violated TOS.

[tammywammy]

16. Juries work off the community standards not the TOS

The admins enforce the TOS and the hosts enforce the forum/groups SOP.

So something could not be against the TOS and still be hidden. This is why Skinner says "don't push your luck".

[pintobean]

18. Seems like after three years

in this system, and at least one time-out, one would have that figured out.

[tammywammy]

19. You're given the option to refresh your memory on the jury system when you agree to do it too

Here's the link for anyone else that's confused: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=modsystem#juries

I'm always confused why long time members don't understand the purpose of the jury system.

[w0nderer]

29. read the rules, that's for n00bs...like

ummm me...i read that pretty much every other time i get called for J.Duty

it's not a bad idea to refresh the mind.

'Jury duty' (any sort) as well as 'informed voting' is a civic responsibility (even in a small community (and realistically DU is a small community) that's 'only' online)

It has to be remembered that behind each post is a keyboard, and at that keyboard sits a human (in some cases cat's though :-p )with feelings and hopes.

that being said
It is the responsibility of all DU members to participate on our discussion forums in a manner that promotes a positive atmosphere and encourages good discussions among a diverse community of people holding a broad range of center-to-left viewpoints. Members should refrain from posting messages on DU that are disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
not really complex base rules


*jumps off soapbox*

since many people have sigline disabled...this once i'll paste mine in here
----
You can be a responsible citizen, or not; and be treated as one, or not. ---- quis custodiet ipsos custodes
----

[MohRokTah]

17. Mostly, posts critical of Sanders get hidden while posts calling Hillary every nae in the book stand

[Nye Bevan]

22. Did someone say "Hillary nae nae"?

[tammywammy]

30. Is that a new hokey pokey? n/t

[herding cats]

20. Was it rude, hurtful, offensive or otherwise over the top?

That's what a jury decides, not TOS. TOS is up to the site admins, and personal choices on if a post violates the community standards (see above) here are up to juries.

[Nye Bevan]

21. After struggling in vain to understand the question I will just say this:

Needs Rung Buzzard.

[Tipperary]

23. I love the rung Buzzard!

Someone should make a coat of arms with the buzzard!

[tammywammy]

24. I like this

I googled buzzard coat of arms, this is my favorite.



Coat of Arms for Austria.

[Tipperary]

25. Fantastic! That is a buzzard, however,

that I would hesitate to "rung".

[still_one]

27. TOS, not someone's speech or opinion, unless that speech or opinion is a violation of TOS