Does anyone have a list of the Americans assassinated by President Obama?

[ProSense]

Also include any Americans targeted for assassination.

Thanks.

Good read here:

A Rational Analysis of Drone Policy
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/30/1095772/-A-Rational-Analysis-of-Drone-Policy

[Eric J in MN]

1. Anwar al-Awlaki was an American, killed by a US drone after being targeted.

His 16 year old son, also an American, was later also killed by a US drone. It's unclear if his son had been targeted.

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"Anwar Al-Awlaki and Egyptian-born Gihan Mohsen Baker had an American son, born on September 13, 1995, in Denver. His name was transliterated on the Colorado birth certificate as "Abdulrahman Anwar Al-Aulaqi".[242] Abdul-Rahman al-Awlaki was killed at the age of 16 in an American drone strike on Friday, October 14, 2011, in Yemen, along with alleged al-Qaeda members.[243] Nine other people were killed in the same CIA-led attack. Among the dead was a 17-year-old cousin of Abdulrahman.[244] Family members have said that he was on his way to a barbecue. Five Facebook pages have been set up to condemn the killing as a human rights violation.

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki#Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki
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[ProSense]

2. Thanks. n/t

[leveymg]

4. A second US Citizen AQ propagandist was killed with Awlaki, Samir Khan.

BTW: among the first group killed by an armed Predator drone (11/02) was a naturalized US Citizen from upper-state New York, Kamal Derwish. Please see, http://journals.democraticunderground.com/leveymg/438

[msanthrope]

25. Awlaki's son was apparently not the target--Al Banna was.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-15/middleeast/world_meast_yemen-drone-attack_1_anwar-al-awlaki-drone-attack-drone-strike?_s=PM:MIDDLEEAST

[Eric J in MN]

28. That article says that Ibrahim al-Banna was killed in the drone attack.

However, it doesn't say who the target was.

[msanthrope]

29. Now I have to do your googling for you?

"Two weeks later, another drone strike targeting and killing a prominent al Qaeda militant, Ibrahim al-Banna, also killed Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a teenage cousin and several others. Abdulrahman al-Awlaki's family in Yemen confirmed that he and his cousin were killed by a a drone strike.

It's unclear why the younger al-Awlaki was with al-Banna, but the teenager's death has refocused scrutiny on the U.S. drone campaign, which has grown exponentially since being introduced in 2004 – principally in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq, but more recently in Somalia, Yemen and Libya. Drones are now a controversial pillar of national security policy."
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/25/death-of-u-s-teenager-in-drone-strike-stokes-debate/

[lamp_shade]

3. One (1)? Hardly a list. I'll bookmark this and check back later to see how it has grown.

[leveymg]

5. Make that (4) USCs killed by drones in Yemen. Three under Obama.

[lamp_shade]

6. Who were the other 2 "targeted and assassinated" by Obama?

[leveymg]

7. Please see above

[lamp_shade]

8. Targeted? Assassinated?

[leveymg]

9. Do you prefer the term extrajudicial execution?

Intentionally executed. Do you have evidence to the contrary?

For Derwish, the NSA/CIA was tracking his cell phone (11/02). The circumstances indicate they knew Khan was in the car with Awlaki. As for Awlaki's son, he was at a BBQ many miles away - why did they just happen to target that gathering within hours after his father was killed?

[lamp_shade]

11. Please re-read OP's question.

[leveymg]

12. Answered.

As precisely as possible with context (the US Citizen who is known to have been among the first drone target casualties in 2002). What's the issue?

[msanthrope]

26. Awlaki's son was not intentionally targeted....

He was apparently with the media officer for AQAP, Ibraim Al-Banna, when his drone struck.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-15/middleeast/world_meast_yemen-drone-attack_1_anwar-al-awlaki-drone-attack-drone-strike?_s=PM:MIDDLEEAST

[hfojvt]

13. actually, the score is really none

because American citizens from Upstate New York, real ones, that is, like my cousins, they have jobs in upstate New York, or they move to Washington or North Carolina or Arkansas and get jobs and they goto their jobs, pay their taxes, vote, raise their families, take trips to NYC to celebrate their birthday, root for Syracuse in college sports, etc.

What American citizens typically don't do, is goto Yemen for Al-Quaeda training camps. From your journal

"Derwish, it was determined later, was part of the Lackawanna, N.Y., group of Yemeni men who admitted to training in al Qaeda camps."

Oh no, but Derwish was a naturalized citizen, and naturalized citizens are fully citizens - when they keep their oath, which says

"I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;"

Yeah, I am sure that was why Derwish was in Yemen with Abu Ali Al-Harithi, to defend the Constitution from all enemies.

Also, I only counted Al-Awlaki and his son. It didn't say if the young cousin was an "American". And I guess Al-Awlaki wasn't an enemy of the US, never called for the death of Americans (like his own son) and probably his son was just there going to barbeques and playing hacky-sack and maybe looking for work. There's no possible way that he was studying swordplay so that one day he could walk up to the six fingered man and say "Hallo, my name is Inigo Al-Awlaki, you killed my father, prepare to die."

[DisgustipatedinCA]

16. Real 'murcans don't go overseas? What kind of tebagging pile of shit are you trying to sell?

[leveymg]

18. Oh, Bullshit.

You have no idea who Derwish or Al-Awlaki really were, or what motivated them to do what they did. Both were "catch and release" cases who had all the earmarks of being double-agents or knowing flytraps. Neither ever built a bomb or fired a round targeting an American, as far as is known.

Both were key to the U.S. Gov't's ability to identify and locate al-Qaeda cell members inside the U.S. before 9/11, and in targeting sympathizers and recruits around the world afterwards. And, they also knew a lot more than you or I do about what the CIA actually knew about the structure, plans, and order of battle of AQ cells that carried out the USS Cole and 9/11 attacks before they happened.

There are reasons for why they were targeted, and it had nothing to do with a naturalization ceremony.

[Capt. Obvious]

19. "What American citizens typically don't do"

ooh, let's take a ride on this slippery slope to see who "counts" as a citizen

What American citizens typically don't do is vote for Democrats

What American citizens typically don't do is not open carry firearms

What American citizens typically don't do is protect the social safety net

What American citizens typically don't do is be against war

What American citizens typically don't do is be pro-choice

What American citizens typically don't do is be a member of any of those non-Christian religions

What American citizens typically don't do is not use no double negatives

[leveymg]

20. You forgot to add: chewing gum and sticking it under school desks.

That'll mark you for a Hellfire, sure as shit.

To be more serious, Predator drones are just another launch platform for ordinance - no different, really than an F-16 or an Apache attack helicopter. The issue as I see it, is who draws up the target list, and why certain people are on it, and not others, such as the Saudi sheiks and bankers at the top of al-Qaeda who continue to live in luxury without any apparent fear, along with their sometime American friends who were also responsible for the fact that the 9/11 attacks happened.

[sudopod]

22. "..because American citizens from Upstate New York, real ones, that is, like my cousins..."

Are you trying to be a caricature?

[Marr]

10. It should've been titled "A *Sensible* Analysis of Drone Policy".

[ProSense]

23. Nice cartoon. n/t

[whatchamacallit]

14. Boy do I regret opening that chamberpot

Such oh-so-logical-and-sensible apologias smell of fear, privilege, and self deception.

[morningfog]

15. It is telling that the argument has reached this level of nuance.

[whatchamacallit]

17. Indeed.

[woo me with science]

24. Morality schmorality. nt

[morningfog]

21. There was al-Awlaki, his son, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki killed in a separate attack and Samir Khan

so far. All American citizens.

Jeremy Smith and Benjamin Rast were two US service members killed by a "friendly-fire" drone strike.

There are probably more.

As I mentioned above, though, it is disturbing that this is where the debate has devolved to. the drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen are only hurting our interests. Stupid stupid policy that will bite us in the ass for years, maybe decades to come.

[leftstreet]

27. Why would the Obama Admin share that information with us?

Why would any of us be expected to know who is/isn't has/hasn't been targeted?

What a stupid article n/t

[Nye Bevan]

30. Go to whitehouse.gov/secret_assassination_list

Just kidding. I'm not sure that the list has been made publicly available.