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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 02:13 PM Dec 2015

My life as a pro-Putin propagandist in Russia’s secret 'troll factory'

Ms Savchuk says that for two months, she worked as one of scores of "internet operators" in a secretive “troll factory” called Internet Research, an anonymous four-storey building on a back street in St Petersburg, Russia’s former tsarist capital and Mr Putin’s hometown.

Ms Savchuk’s job was to spend 12 hours a day praising the Kremlin and lambasting its perceived enemies on social networks, blogs and the comment sections of online media.

The trolls' task, reminiscent of the black arts of Soviet disinformation, was to attack any opponent of the Russian authorities, be it dissenting politicians, pro-European Ukrainians or even Barack Obama – who was branded a "monkey" because of his black skin.

Samples of assignments which she secretly copied show that targets for the bloggers were the Ukrainian government, Mr Obama, and Alexei Navalny, the Russian opposition blogger and anti-corruption crusader who has been frequently jailed on trumped-up charges. Pussy Riot, the feminist activists who performed a “punk prayer” in Moscow’s main church, were also singled out.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11656043/My-life-as-a-pro-Putin-propagandist-in-Russias-secret-troll-factory.html


A well-written, in-depth article though six months old. Three or four times a week, a handful of posts on DU remind of its relevance.

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My life as a pro-Putin propagandist in Russia’s secret 'troll factory' (Original Post) LanternWaste Dec 2015 OP
I get the same feeling seeing the posts using as a cite "Sputnik" or "Russia Today." Archae Dec 2015 #1
+1. I can think of another example. FSogol Dec 2015 #2
It's a really shitty job, but I guess someone has to do it? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #3
*giggle* Coventina Dec 2015 #4
That's right! American politicians, parties, and interest groups would never stoop so low! backscatter712 Dec 2015 #5
Sorry, I didn't mean to touch your tender nerves. Coventina Dec 2015 #6
Rationalizing the faults of one by predicating them on the faults of another seems irrational. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #13
Nobody's posting a link to a White House Press Release and pretending it's a news story CreekDog Dec 2015 #17
Goodness, no! LanternWaste Dec 2015 #11
"Bashing" President Putin has become the norm for Western mass media. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #7
Saw That! ProfessorGAC Dec 2015 #9
There are a few around here that somehow defend Putin FLPanhandle Dec 2015 #24
Woah... GummyBearz Dec 2015 #8
Exposing the West's "Reverse Blame" game. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #10
Ukraine: Founding false narrative + media distortion => World War III Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #12
Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #14
The West’s Looting of Ukraine Has Begun Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #15
They certainly have been busy little beavers, haven't they? Hekate Dec 2015 #26
kick CreekDog Dec 2015 #16
Most posters here would never do this edhopper Dec 2015 #18
this is kinda random but: CreekDog Dec 2015 #21
sure edhopper Dec 2015 #22
Depends on what site they post at would be my guess_ Hekate Dec 2015 #25
ooooh you rotter :)... nt uriel1972 Dec 2015 #32
Paid or unpaid, there are a lot of one issue trolls in discussion boards. Gormy Cuss Dec 2015 #19
Fortunately, Skinner is an exceptional forum moderator. backscatter712 Dec 2015 #23
Blame the juries. emulatorloo Dec 2015 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #20
If the media were not antagonisitic toward Russia they would portray the trolls in a positive light betterdemsonly Dec 2015 #27
Great article, thanks for posting emulatorloo Dec 2015 #28
I suspect some of the obvious accounts are shared by more than one person. LeftyMom Dec 2015 #30
Interesting observation. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #31
Post west, young purveyor, Codeine Dec 2015 #33

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
5. That's right! American politicians, parties, and interest groups would never stoop so low!
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 02:46 PM
Dec 2015

Why just think of what DU would look like if it was constantly bombarded by sockpuppet armies spewing the Talking Point of the Day.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. Rationalizing the faults of one by predicating them on the faults of another seems irrational.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 03:01 PM
Dec 2015

Rationalizing the faults of one by predicating them on the faults of another seems irrational at best...

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
17. Nobody's posting a link to a White House Press Release and pretending it's a news story
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:10 PM
Dec 2015

There are plenty posting links to the Russian Government's "news" site and pretending they are news stories.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. Goodness, no!
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 03:00 PM
Dec 2015

"nobody we know of here resembles this story...."

Goodness, no!

Simply because someone minimizes Moscow's assault on GLBT rights, its imperialism into Ukraine, Georgia and the Crimea, its four recently constructed forward airbases in Syria, its incompetent and repeated flyovers into sovereign Turkish airspace, its bombing of the Turkmen, waging cyberwarfare on Estonia, threatening the gas supplies of Lithuania, the reassertion of Russian influence in the former communist states of Europe, whether those states want Russian influence or not, and Moscow's introduction of a law which restricted NGOs from getting funding from foreign governments, we should open our arms to any poster who relies exclusively on Russia Today for their opinions.

Orwell's Newspeak has become a Newthink as well.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
24. There are a few around here that somehow defend Putin
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:16 PM
Dec 2015

I wonder why any liberal would ever support him. I guess for pay is one good answer.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
21. this is kinda random but:
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:02 PM
Dec 2015
another_liberal (8,631 posts)
4. Great to see you back, Go West!

Have you noticed how there are a lot fewer posts lately about the glories of Chechnyan terrorists fighting Russia. Someone must have finally looked up what hypocrisy means.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017237652#post4

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
22. sure
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 05:28 PM
Dec 2015

I would never call out one DUer or another_ .

I wonder what the Kremlin pays these days?

Do they usually use people who profess to be conservative or _liberal?

Hekate

(90,824 posts)
25. Depends on what site they post at would be my guess_
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 02:46 AM
Dec 2015

They get to pose as far-right one day and far-left the next_

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
19. Paid or unpaid, there are a lot of one issue trolls in discussion boards.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:37 PM
Dec 2015

Many are also good at posting without violating the site's TOS and moderation. Sites with little moderation seem to have these sorts of trolls by the score.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
23. Fortunately, Skinner is an exceptional forum moderator.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:08 PM
Dec 2015

Why, under his supervision, the trolls have all been driven off! All you have to do is look in GDP, the Guns/RKBA forum, and Snowden threads and you'll see how civil and insightful this board has become!

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betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
27. If the media were not antagonisitic toward Russia they would portray the trolls in a positive light
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 02:57 AM
Dec 2015

like they do pro-israel posters, who Israel admits they pay. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/14/israel-students-social-media/2651715/ . This board has been more than welcoming of such people in the israel-palestine forum.

Not to mention the posters the American government has paid since the Bush years. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

emulatorloo

(44,186 posts)
28. Great article, thanks for posting
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 03:04 AM
Dec 2015

Appears to explain some of the pro-Putin nonsense I see on DU. And the bizarre glorification of RT by some DU'ers.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
30. I suspect some of the obvious accounts are shared by more than one person.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 04:00 AM
Dec 2015

I've noticed that quite often the original post (citing Sputnik or RT, almost invariably) will have very little additional comment, the first few replies from the poster in any resulting discussion will be brief comments in clumsy English (using very few stock arguments as well,) but if the thread heats up and gets many replies the same poster will suddenly switch to very fluid English and longer, better argued replies in the remainder of their comments.

This suggests to me that posts that receive many replies or significant pushback are being handed off to more skillful colleagues at the troll factory.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
33. Post west, young purveyor,
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 07:31 PM
Dec 2015

because it's not enough to be just another liberal. You better believe it.

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