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The humiliation of Jeb and the family Bush (Original Post) cali Dec 2015 OP
what pisses me off is that it is so sad and pathetic that I have to catch myself feeling sympathy... virtualobserver Dec 2015 #1
snap out of it lame54 Dec 2015 #19
I feel no sympathy... Helen Borg Dec 2015 #27
Yes. Suspect Bush egos are tremendously underestimated. Hortensis Jan 2016 #66
I had a slightly different reaction... Jeb is SUCH a lame candidate, I'm disappointed he won't be the Rethug nominee... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2015 #31
Bernie can handle anyone virtualobserver Dec 2015 #34
No doubt! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2016 #64
Jeb - I defunded Planned Parenthood in Florida; do same federally. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #47
Jeb -Abortion ok when LIFE of mother at risk, not just her HEALTH. (Nov 2015) Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #48
The reasons are endless virtualobserver Dec 2015 #50
personally, I hope the "die-nasty" starts soon! lastlib Dec 2015 #59
Had someone tell me last spring truebluegreen Dec 2015 #2
The primary hasn't started yet. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #5
People are starting to come around to the idea that the bush days are over NJCher Dec 2015 #9
Cruz is one caniving, under handed piece of snake-oil slime. Hulk Dec 2015 #13
Apparently mercuryblues Dec 2015 #57
The mission I accomplished truebluegreen Dec 2015 #25
What's amazing is that people like the person you're referring to act like W's presidency-- bulloney Dec 2015 #41
What's worse(Franklin Pearce). PyaarRevolution Dec 2015 #62
No sympathy here. madaboutharry Dec 2015 #3
beware DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #4
Jeb's purpose in life NJCher Dec 2015 #10
George Bush took 'cuts' in the presidential line, screwed his brother. philly_bob Dec 2015 #6
Those in control of such things... Blanks Dec 2015 #11
Remember, the father cried when discussing W's performance as president. 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #51
American's will do the right thing when... SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #7
I think he's hanging on for the brokered convention. Bush and Cruz: both dangerous that way. Hekate Dec 2015 #8
troubles? keithbvadu2 Dec 2015 #14
Yeah, I'm still fearful about what may come out of a brokered convention.............. LongTomH Dec 2015 #35
whole family is not 'aware' oldandhappy Dec 2015 #12
The arrogance of that family is limitless. I really don't think they can feel humiliation. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2015 #15
I'm still barfing over the spew that Babs was roguevalley Dec 2015 #29
Fuck Jeb Bush! Major Hogwash Dec 2015 #16
Yeppers arely staircase Dec 2015 #17
One of the rare gifts of this election season, so far. NBachers Dec 2015 #18
based on the way he comes across I'm thinking even without trump JI7 Dec 2015 #20
Come on! Give him a break! Helen Borg Dec 2015 #28
Poor JEB! He needs some puppy kisses. I think that in the next NCjack Dec 2015 #40
How crazy is it that a democracy would even contemplate having a dynasty in charge? Gmak Dec 2015 #21
Jeb=Stannis Baratheon. nt geek tragedy Dec 2015 #22
One name will take care of any sympathy SandersDem Dec 2015 #23
I agree, but it's still not enough SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #24
I love the smell caballojm Dec 2015 #26
lol. yeah Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #56
How about sterilizing the Bush family...? First Speaker Dec 2015 #30
It's one of the few bright lights of the GOP campaign, mountain grammy Dec 2015 #32
The PNACers need to just create personal Pearl Harbors for the other candidates. valerief Dec 2015 #33
He just has no talent. maindawg Dec 2015 #36
I agree. I think they were going to sell him as the lone sane candidate in the group rhett o rick Dec 2015 #38
Watching this has been Mira Dec 2015 #37
Don't count out the Bush Crime Family quite yet. They still have a lot of money behind rhett o rick Dec 2015 #39
agreed. he's not dead yet Doctor_J Dec 2015 #54
Throw him an Anvil PeoViejo Dec 2015 #42
Jeb is the Fredo of the Bush family Cyrano Dec 2015 #43
From what I've read, the two younger Bush brothers, Neil and Marvin, are even worse. Chakab Dec 2015 #45
The people who should be embarrassed are the pundit class in Washington who've been telling us that Chakab Dec 2015 #44
I can't wait for the day SmittynMo Dec 2015 #46
I guess it's back to the booze! Maybe for both of them. Ivan Kaputski Dec 2015 #49
fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son Doctor_J Dec 2015 #55
His attempt to rewrite the history of the invasion of Iraq failed Babel_17 Dec 2015 #52
The Bush Family reaps what they sow AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #53
It definitely is satisfying, but I'm very weary about Trump. n/t Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2015 #58
I think it will be his turn in 2024. jalan48 Dec 2015 #60
Don't underestimate the Bush Syndicate chapdrum Dec 2015 #61
But I know... tavernier Dec 2015 #63
The Bush Crime Family isn't above a few bumps along the way. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #65
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
1. what pisses me off is that it is so sad and pathetic that I have to catch myself feeling sympathy...
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:33 PM
Dec 2015

for him....for the guy that stole the 2000 election for his brother.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
66. Yes. Suspect Bush egos are tremendously underestimated.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jan 2016

They see this bizarre election behavior as the electorate's shame.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
31. I had a slightly different reaction... Jeb is SUCH a lame candidate, I'm disappointed he won't be the Rethug nominee...
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:40 PM
Dec 2015

not that Bernie won't wipe the floor with whomever those creeps nominate.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
34. Bernie can handle anyone
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:46 PM
Dec 2015

Democrats have been playing footsie with Republicans for too long. They have given Republicans a free pass on a whole range of issues, partially because some of them were participants in some of what has occurred.

Bernie is going to play Hardball.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
47. Jeb - I defunded Planned Parenthood in Florida; do same federally.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:32 PM
Dec 2015

Think of that when u feel sympathy for the jerk

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
50. The reasons are endless
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:47 PM
Dec 2015

My point is that watching him embarrass himself this badly, when so much money came in behind him and with father and brother as ex-Presidents, his humiliation is so complete that just as a human being I can imagine his pain.

One thing for sure.....and I don't know if his son George Prescott Bush knows it yet, but the dynasty is over.


lastlib

(23,268 posts)
59. personally, I hope the "die-nasty" starts soon!
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 09:57 PM
Dec 2015

I want to piss on a couple of graves. Like a racehorse.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
2. Had someone tell me last spring
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:36 PM
Dec 2015

that of course Bush would be the nominee--he had all the money and the name (oddly, she didn't think the name might be a minus as opposed to a plus).

I looked at her a little cross-eyed I guess (social function, and we'd never met) and she offered that people were just "tired" of Obama...I asked if that was because he was a Kenyan Muslim Socialist and she vehemently agreed. Exposure accomplished, I rolled my eyes and dropped it.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. The primary hasn't started yet.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:51 PM
Dec 2015

I don't put anything past the bush's. The RW crazy Repugs didn't want Romney but they got him anyway.

NJCher

(35,712 posts)
9. People are starting to come around to the idea that the bush days are over
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:31 PM
Dec 2015

I was listening to a pollster on our public radio, and the truth is that the demographics have done him in.

It's just the facts of the matter. Now we have to worry about people like Ted Cruz.


Cher

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
13. Cruz is one caniving, under handed piece of snake-oil slime.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:54 PM
Dec 2015

I still say, beware of pAul rYan. He's the "silent hero"...and unless there is something that prohibits him from taking the nomination, I think he could upset the apple cart.

mercuryblues

(14,537 posts)
57. Apparently
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 06:53 PM
Dec 2015

there is...His Muslim beard. I kid you not.

http://www.ibtimes.com/does-paul-ryan-have-muslim-beard-amid-spending-bill-criticism-republican-house-2243220

Does Paul Ryan Have A 'Muslim Beard'? Amid Spending Bill Criticism, Republican House Speaker Fields Personal Attacks

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
41. What's amazing is that people like the person you're referring to act like W's presidency--
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:18 PM
Dec 2015

and all of the incompetence, lying and corruption that led to the biggest economic collapse since the Great Depression and two totally f***ed up wars--never happened. In fact, some of these goobers would argue that they're all Obama's fault.

This is what 25+ years of lies and distortions from Faux Snooze, RW talk shows and the rest of the lazy-ass news media have done to this country.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
62. What's worse(Franklin Pearce).
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 11:23 PM
Dec 2015

Their great grandfather Franklin Pearce(?) was a screw up too. He was a drunk but people can be functioning alcoholics. More than anything he was a hot mess. Nathaniel Hawthorne's piece may have got him elected but his conduct in office the first time saw the Republicans nominating someone else for a second term.
So I ask you, why did George W. Bush get the nom. for the second term given the epic failure he was for the first, lying about Iraq and the "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" et al. That embarrassment alone should've seen him barred from a second nomination. Instead the establishment Republicans say "Screw the good of the nation, we'll hold ranks and cover behind party". That conduct alone is disgusting and unconscionable.

madaboutharry

(40,217 posts)
3. No sympathy here.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:37 PM
Dec 2015

Jeb has no self awareness. He is entitled and spoiled. He should have listened to his mother. She probably saw this coming.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
4. beware
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 02:48 PM
Dec 2015

as long as Jeb has money, he will be a threat. Even if Trump or Cruz picks him as a VP, he will be a threat.

Let me be blunt, whoever picks him as VP better have a medieval style food taster.

NJCher

(35,712 posts)
10. Jeb's purpose in life
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:32 PM
Dec 2015
as long as Jeb has money, he will be a threat.

Don't know if I agree with that. Jeb made a great sink hole for republican campaign donations to go nowhere.


Cher

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
6. George Bush took 'cuts' in the presidential line, screwed his brother.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:08 PM
Dec 2015

Jeb was the one the family wanted to be president.

W's incredible screw-ups eliminated his brother's chances.

I suspect that is the family dynamics of the situation. Remember, the father cried when discussing W's performance as president.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
11. Those in control of such things...
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:41 PM
Dec 2015

National elections, that is. Figured when they made the two of them (Dubya and Jeb) governors, they could get one of them to be president and really do some damage, but not both.

Jeb has to be operating without the machine that supported Dubya. His success certainly seems to support that theory.

3catwoman3

(24,029 posts)
51. Remember, the father cried when discussing W's performance as president.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:47 PM
Dec 2015

As well he should have.

One of the receptionists at the peds office where I work is a Republican. Not a RWNJ, and actually a very sweet person. Her family recently took a vacation, and I heard her telling someone that they had gone to the Bush library and it was "very inspirational." I had to bite my tongue not to say that the only thing the Bush presidency inspires in me is the need to puke.

Hekate

(90,771 posts)
8. I think he's hanging on for the brokered convention. Bush and Cruz: both dangerous that way.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 03:26 PM
Dec 2015

But yeah, I agree with you: my heart just bleeds for the Bush Crime Family troubles.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
35. Yeah, I'm still fearful about what may come out of a brokered convention..............
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:51 PM
Dec 2015

..............which will be a forecast of more dirty tricks in the general!

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,846 posts)
15. The arrogance of that family is limitless. I really don't think they can feel humiliation.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:01 PM
Dec 2015

As much as I'm enjoying watching Jeb! fail, I'd enjoy it more if I thought he and his family were beginning to realize just how bad an idea it was.

JI7

(89,261 posts)
20. based on the way he comes across I'm thinking even without trump
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:12 PM
Dec 2015

He still would not be doing well.

He always comes across as not wanting to actually be there.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
40. Poor JEB! He needs some puppy kisses. I think that in the next
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:07 PM
Dec 2015

GOP debate, Trump will disembowel him. Maybe Trump will accuse him of stealing the 2000 election for his brother and then point out what a disaster two terms of "W" was.

Gmak

(88 posts)
21. How crazy is it that a democracy would even contemplate having a dynasty in charge?
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:13 PM
Dec 2015

I have been mildly horrified since their announcements, that a Bush AND a Clinton were vying for our highest office. Talk about 'power corrupting and absolute power'... If this were the case in UK, France, Sweden etc. can you imagine the scorn of our pundits and talking heads? Thank goodness, Bernie is openly talking about oligarchy. It's scary to think we no longer have a democracy - ask Jimmy Carter - but the way back is not by nominating, much less electing, a member of that oligarchy! That's why I will devote the last ounce of my ancient, feeble energy to promoting and working for Bernie.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
24. I agree, but it's still not enough
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:24 PM
Dec 2015

Considering what his asshole brother did to this country and the world.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
30. How about sterilizing the Bush family...?
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:38 PM
Dec 2015

...I mean, I'm not in favor of abridging anyone's Constitutional rights or anything...but I'm not a fanatic about it, either...

mountain grammy

(26,644 posts)
32. It's one of the few bright lights of the GOP campaign,
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:42 PM
Dec 2015

watching the foolish Bushes on display. This family has caused far too much grief and heartache for Americans.

Truly the Family of Secrets!

valerief

(53,235 posts)
33. The PNACers need to just create personal Pearl Harbors for the other candidates.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:44 PM
Dec 2015

That's how they get what they want.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
36. He just has no talent.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:55 PM
Dec 2015

The truth is that to the Republican in today's America, facts do not matter. What actually happened does not matter. Issues do not exist other than scary Muslims or mexicans. All jeb has to do is say how he would like to bomb Iran, Syria, Isis, France and build a wall and all Mooslims are bad and drill baby drill ,we know what works. Jeb knows what to say. He won't get with the program I don't know why. He is a stiff. That's why.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
38. I agree. I think they were going to sell him as the lone sane candidate in the group
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:01 PM
Dec 2015

of nitwits, but poor Jeb can't play the part.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
37. Watching this has been
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 04:59 PM
Dec 2015

one of my joys in 2015 - and I have sorely needed some joy.
I am looking forward to the utter and final destruction of anything that remains positive about the entitlement the Bushes seems to feel is theirs. It was actually a surprise to find out the "smart one" is socially graceless, not very articulate, and as inept as the rest of them and not hiding any mental ability because it's not there to be hidden.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
39. Don't count out the Bush Crime Family quite yet. They still have a lot of money behind
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:02 PM
Dec 2015

them and I don't believe that Karl Rove has been idle.

Cyrano

(15,046 posts)
43. Jeb is the Fredo of the Bush family
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:20 PM
Dec 2015

I always thought it was George W., but it turns out to be Jeb.

Call him "Fredo" every chance you get. If it catches on, it will sink any hope he has left.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
45. From what I've read, the two younger Bush brothers, Neil and Marvin, are even worse.
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:24 PM
Dec 2015

There's a reason that they never even tried to run for public office.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
44. The people who should be embarrassed are the pundit class in Washington who've been telling us that
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 05:21 PM
Dec 2015

Jeb was "the smart one" for the past decade. He's just as inept as his brother when it comes to policy but much less likable and totally incapable of mounting an effective campaign.

Without his family name, Jeb couldn't get elected to his local school board.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
55. fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 06:38 PM
Dec 2015

No, but fat, drunk, stupid and rich isn't bad

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
61. Don't underestimate the Bush Syndicate
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 10:17 PM
Dec 2015

"Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker tells quite a bit about the quasi-seditious crew, especially Prescott Bush and GHW Bush.

Fun fact (p. 474): Brother Marvin was on the board of directors of Securacom, the company that provided security for WTC.

tavernier

(12,396 posts)
63. But I know...
Thu Dec 31, 2015, 11:49 PM
Dec 2015

It's my own damn fault.

Woooo Hoooo!

Finally, a few Jimmy Buffett lyrics written in our state that you screwed over, will finally come back to haunt you.

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