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From: The Staff of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge (Original Post) WheelWalker Jan 2016 OP
This is the Oregon that I live in. WheelWalker Jan 2016 #1
beautiful Skittles Jan 2016 #2
DU rec...nt SidDithers Jan 2016 #3
Do you suppose that you could at least post a summary? longship Jan 2016 #4
From: The Staff of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Contrary1 Jan 2016 #5
Thank you. Much appreciated. longship Jan 2016 #9
Should be in the OP. Not everyone has Fb access. Thank you! L. Coyote Jan 2016 #14
You don't need to be a member to see it (nt) a2liberal Jan 2016 #6
Not helpful. My experience differs. longship Jan 2016 #8
*shrug* a2liberal Jan 2016 #13
Indeed, re Lansing. longship Jan 2016 #15
I have to do it if I am ever going to see pictures of my grand children Jim Beard Jan 2016 #7
Sorry. I just cannot do Facebook from here. longship Jan 2016 #10
Thanks for that. TexasProgresive Jan 2016 #11
I'm glad they are so tolerant and patient, I suppose Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #12

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. Do you suppose that you could at least post a summary?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 02:07 AM
Jan 2016

I do not do Facebook. It is just too broadband stealing for me, and any site that requires my membership to view is not a site I want to go to. (Thank you, Groucho.)

Otherwise -- I am sorry -- your post is worthless.

Not all DUers do Facebook.

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
5. From: The Staff of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:16 AM
Jan 2016

An open letter to our friends, our supporters, and many curious about what's going on here.

From: The Staff of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge
To: Our Friends, Partners, and the American Public

Dear Friends,
Many have asked us to comment on the ongoing situation at Malheur NWR. We have refrained because we care deeply for the community, and want to ensure our words do not inflame an already heated situation. However, we believe it is important that our views and position are known.

We believe many in the media (as well as those sympathetic to the illegal occupiers) were surprised to hear that the community—while frustrated with the Hammond situation—did not leap to the support of the militants. We are not surprised.

For over 100 years, our Refuge employees have been members of this community. We study, watch our kids play basketball, worship, commune, and interact with our fellow Harney County citizens—not as a ‘we vs. they’—but as an ‘us.’

In a community with nearly 40% of working adults engaged in some form of government, we are all touched or involved in the public process. In Harney County, that means we talk. We have cups of coffee. We have arguments. Together we knit our brows, and together we knit scarves. We understand what those currently occupying the Refuge don’t understand---that Harney County isn’t afraid of tough talk.

We can have effective disagreements and either find resolution, find compromise, or simply agree to disagree. But we do it with respect for the rule of law, and know that our areas of agreement and cooperation are infinitely more powerful than the differences we may face. Mostly, we face those differences together with open dialogue and open gates—not intimidation and threats. We have access to each other, because we are not afraid to confront difficult situations or have difficult conversations.

It pains each of us that we are missing our obligations to you—as church leaders, as 4-H advisers, as friends, and as school volunteers. We hope to be back soon and pick up where we left off.

From the bottom of our hearts, we thank you for your support. We know (as you do too) that it is not our Refuge that has been occupied; this is Harney County’s and America’s Refuge.

We are excited to be part of the eventual healing process for our community. We believe that this difficult situation will lead to even stronger bonds between the Refuge and the community that has supported us. We feel for you, because we are you.

We will get through this—because:
We. Are. Harney. County.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. Not helpful. My experience differs.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:32 AM
Jan 2016

Which is why I never, ever click Facebook links. Half of them DO require a login. Those that do not prevoke Facebook bandwidth requirements, which on cellular access and download limits are prohibitive.

Not everybody has access to unlimited broadband Internet access. Here in rural west Michigan we have beautiful forests, but nothing other than electricity and the cell network, the latter being a bit dodgy.

TV here is real TV, via a roof antenna. Unfortunately, my antenna rotor stopped working last year. So I get what I get where it's pointed now. It's only 35 years old.

My best to you.

a2liberal

(1,524 posts)
13. *shrug*
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:02 AM
Jan 2016

I'm sorry my post wasn't helpful to you. I do disagree with your bandwidth assessment (Facebook's mobile site especially is pretty light) but to each their own. It's also very rare to see publicly posted links that require a login because by the nature of FB's privacy settings they would also generally require you to be friends with the poster making public posting kind of pointless.

Nice to meet a fellow Michigander btw! Here's to hoping we get rid of the idiots in Lansing soon!

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. Sorry. I just cannot do Facebook from here.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:40 AM
Jan 2016

It is just not worth it. And many FB pages do restrict to those with FB logins. And it is just not worth getting a login there since their download /bandwidth stealing interface is so fucking bad.

5 GB download a month is a rather severe limit.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
11. Thanks for that.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 08:22 AM
Jan 2016

I would like to echo longships comment on facebook. It's not just facebook links but any "blind" links posted without "fair use" posting of up to 4 paragraphs are ignored by many here.

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