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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:15 PM Feb 2016

4 Asian High School Students Stand Up to Their White Classmates in an Epic Yearbook Stunt

Now here's a yearbook stunt I can get behind!

https://www.yahoo.com/style/4-asian-high-school-students-185900411.html

You wouldn't ask everyone with the last name Smith if they were related, would you?

Four students sharing the last name Nguyen were evidently so fed up with fielding this question that they joined forces for a combined yearbook quote to get their point across to classmates.

In lieu of a quote or list of extracurriculars was a four-word message spread out below the consecutive portraits:




The stunt echoed an almost identical one eight students at San Jose's Presentation High School — also Nguyens — pulled in 2012. The message that time: "We know what you're thinking, and no, we're not related!"




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4 Asian High School Students Stand Up to Their White Classmates in an Epic Yearbook Stunt (Original Post) KamaAina Feb 2016 OP
Yes, great stunt Sanity Claws Feb 2016 #1
Americans don't realize HassleCat Feb 2016 #2
Most Sikhs are named Singh KamaAina Feb 2016 #4
A law school friend of mine was a Sikh but he wasn't named Singh. hifiguy Feb 2016 #38
How in hell do you surf with a turban on? KamaAina Feb 2016 #39
Yes he was oberliner Feb 2016 #44
*tenet* IDemo Feb 2016 #48
Thanks! oberliner Feb 2016 #49
actually they probably are related hfojvt Feb 2016 #27
I'd seriously consider changing it if I were you KamaAina Feb 2016 #40
IIRC many Indian surnames are associated with particular castes. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #34
Title comes off as much more antagonistic and aggressive... TipTok Feb 2016 #3
That's how (many) websites get their clicks. Dr. Strange Feb 2016 #54
I occasionally wonder... TipTok Feb 2016 #55
omg they are just so CUTE yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #5
better than my high school yearbook, Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2016 #6
I get it, but honestly - phylny Feb 2016 #7
agreed Skittles Feb 2016 #11
agree Go Vols Feb 2016 #26
Around here, it's Baca and Chavez Warpy Feb 2016 #28
Maybe so. phylny Feb 2016 #30
Title is clear click/racebait. romanic Feb 2016 #8
Agreed oberliner Feb 2016 #46
Nice race bait. linuxman Feb 2016 #9
You are indeed a poor, oppressed little fella... LanternWaste Feb 2016 #13
Never said I was oppressed, but hey, nice attempt at reading comprehension. linuxman Feb 2016 #19
Wrong. Linuxman is right. This is "Lesworm" (LSWRM) bait... Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #22
I think most people know how common Smith is. However, I had a much less common pnwmom Feb 2016 #32
Trolls are whining! RandiFan1290 Feb 2016 #10
What an awful headline The2ndWheel Feb 2016 #12
it's the liberal way hfojvt Feb 2016 #31
Beautiful and smart and funny. LOL! THat is so cute roguevalley Feb 2016 #14
Lotta butthurt on this thread. Brickbat Feb 2016 #15
Srsly. KamaAina Feb 2016 #16
Lswrm. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #23
They should have put it's pronounced, "When" also, just for completeness snooper2 Feb 2016 #17
More like "nwhen" KamaAina Feb 2016 #18
My first friend in California when I moved here in 1979 was named Nguyen. I practiced it hard... Hekate Feb 2016 #20
That rules. Initech Feb 2016 #21
Wiki sez: By some estimates, forty percent of Vietnamese people have this surname (nt) TacoD Feb 2016 #24
Nguyen is as common a Vietnamese hifiguy Feb 2016 #25
IIRC "Hansen" is the most common surname in many parts of rural NW Minnesota. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #35
I had an uncle Cliff Hanson. hifiguy Feb 2016 #36
I don't know why somebody thinks they need to "stand up" hfojvt Feb 2016 #29
Literally an Epic Nguyen, so to speak! Odin2005 Feb 2016 #33
Well played! hifiguy Feb 2016 #37
Couldn't resist, seemed so obvious! Odin2005 Feb 2016 #41
There is no way that Madeline and Angela are not related oberliner Feb 2016 #42
They really do. hifiguy Feb 2016 #43
Turns out they are twins! oberliner Feb 2016 #45
I don't know. linuxman Feb 2016 #52
That, and it's an all-girls Cathothic school? The2ndWheel Feb 2016 #53
Hilarious Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 #47
50 % of Vietnamese have the name Nguyen. kwassa Feb 2016 #50
The last dynasty of Vietnam was Nguyan AngryAmish Feb 2016 #51

Sanity Claws

(21,848 posts)
1. Yes, great stunt
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:18 PM
Feb 2016

The girls in the first photo are wearing the same top; it must be a uniform. Yuck! I hated my white shirt and plaid skirt when I was in high school but those uniforms are far worse.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. Americans don't realize
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:20 PM
Feb 2016

Certain last names perpetuate and "stamp out" competing last names in some countries. This doesn't happen in the US, except in some isolated rural communities, so we think everybody from India must be related because they're all named Patel or Singh.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
38. A law school friend of mine was a Sikh but he wasn't named Singh.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

He was an Ahluwahlia. Great guy. Sounded like a So Cal surfer dude.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
44. Yes he was
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:11 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sat Feb 6, 2016, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)

All male Sikhs are named Singh, either as a middle name or surname. That is one of the tenets of the religion and its egalitarianism.

Most likely, your friend was Singh Ahluwahlia.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
27. actually they probably are related
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 05:53 PM
Feb 2016

all of humanity is, after all.

Do you know how much crap I take because my name is Koch?

After all, I MUST thereby be related to the billionaires.

It's kind of an obvious question though even if you meet two people who are Millers, or Johnsons or Williamses or Campbells.

Some times people do not even realize it, or it becomes forgotten. My grandmother was from the Sauk City area. People around there used to say about her brother "he is not related to the other Gassers." Except they were wrong, but also not wrong. Most of the "other" Gassers were descended from Jacob. My grandmother, however, was descended from Jacob's little brother George. But the grandchildren and great grandchildren of Jacob basically forgot about their 2nd and 3rd cousins, and no longer acknowledged (or knew about) the relationship.

My grandmother knew. I know because she lived with Florian Gasser while going to high school. I asked if he was a relative, and she said "2nd or 3rd cousin". He was a 2nd cousin once removed, so she knew, but the older people do not pass that info on to their kids. So their kids are unaware that they might be 3rd or 4th or 5th cousins.

Of course, they also might not be as in nearby Reedsburg and Boscobel there is a Gasser Hardware and the ancestors of those people came from Alsace, and not Switzerland. Still the chances are very good that if you could take my grandmother and trace her complete ancestry back ten generations that there would be a connection to the Hardware store family as well.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
55. I occasionally wonder...
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:38 PM
Feb 2016

... about folks who write such things.

Did they go into their careers with ideas of journalistic integrity and then went down a slippery slope to the equivalent of street lamp prostitutes with a word processor or did they start that way and assume that's what journalism is nowadays...

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
6. better than my high school yearbook,
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:28 PM
Feb 2016

We had eleven Vietnamese girls with the exact same first and last name all in the same grade.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
7. I get it, but honestly -
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:30 PM
Feb 2016

If there were four kids - Amanda Rossi, Vincent Rossi, Carlotta Rossi, and John Rossi - in my graduating class and I didn't grow up with them and didn't know, I'd ask them if they were related.

Rossi, btw, is one of the most, if not the most common Italian surnames.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
11. agreed
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:14 PM
Feb 2016

if the implication is that it is racist to wonder if two people with the same surname are related, that is utter nonsense

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
28. Around here, it's Baca and Chavez
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 05:57 PM
Feb 2016

Nobody asks them, either.

The reason the Asian kids get it is because of the "you all look alike to me" mindset. In a predominantly Asian school, the 4 Rossi kids might have been asked if they were related.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
30. Maybe so.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:08 PM
Feb 2016

I know in my school, way back in the 70s, with a predominantly Italian, Jewish, and Irish population, two people I know who were not related, but had the last name "Pagano" referred to each other as "My brother"/"My sister" because so many people asked them if they were related. Funny, too, because they looked nothing alike. He was blond/blue-eyed and she was brunette/brown eyed - totally different features, too

romanic

(2,841 posts)
8. Title is clear click/racebait.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:43 PM
Feb 2016

But the article is definitely sound. I remember in my high school we had several Chinese students with "Wu" as their last names in the same grade. I remember they were referred to as the "Wu Tang Clang"or something idiotic.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
9. Nice race bait.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 01:46 PM
Feb 2016

The article literally mentioned nothing about standing up to anyone, let alone DU's arch nemesis, WHITE PEOPLE!

Seemed like they did it in good fun. I didn't see the need to turn this into a 'stickin' it to whitey' piece of clickbait.

It's not uncommon to have people wonder if you're related based on a common last name when enrolled at the same school.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. You are indeed a poor, oppressed little fella...
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

"DU's arch nemesis, WHITE PEOPLE! "

Oh dear. You are indeed a poor, oppressed little fella...

"It's not uncommon to have people wonder if you're related based on a common last name when enrolled at the same school..."

Odd that... my last name is Smith and I was never asked if I was related to any others Smiths in my high school. However, they most likely realized the concept of Balance of Probabilities while you don't.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
19. Never said I was oppressed, but hey, nice attempt at reading comprehension.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:32 PM
Feb 2016

Would you agree that nguyen isn't quit as common as smith, or do you not understand the concept of balance of probabilities?

I await your standard verbose, passive agressive reply.

Try to learn what a tounge-in-cheek comment is.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
22. Wrong. Linuxman is right. This is "Lesworm" (LSWRM) bait...
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 05:14 PM
Feb 2016

Liberal Straight White Racist Male.

I listed All the attributes to perfect the nemesis.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
32. I think most people know how common Smith is. However, I had a much less common
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:28 PM
Feb 2016

name, and when we moved into our town, I was frequently asked if we were related to that other family . . . except their name was pronounced the same but spelled differently.

I think this is almost a universal experience. People want to make connections.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
12. What an awful headline
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 02:18 PM
Feb 2016
The photo, posted to Reddit on Wednesday, didn't provide any context, but collected thousands of upvotes.


It provided no context, so it goes right to standing up to white classmates?

And yes, I'm sure many people with the last name Smith have been asked if they were related to someone else with the last name Smith. Most likely, in an innocent way.

Are you related to Bob Smith?

Yes? No way! I know that guy! Maybe we should hang out.

No? Oh, sorry, I was just trying to make conversation with another human being. Maybe we should hang out.

Standing up to white classmates? How is that to go-to? The world doesn't revolve around white people, except when it does, I guess.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
31. it's the liberal way
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:17 PM
Feb 2016

to be a good liberal you are supposed to hate white people, even, or maybe especially, if you are white.

The only good white person is one who hates white people.

Because white people are always bad, except the ones who hate white people, and even lots of them are bad too. Sometimes even they forget to apologize every hour for the sin of being born white, and for every bad thing ever done by a white person.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
18. More like "nwhen"
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:19 PM
Feb 2016

I say it quite a lot. In addition to the two city councilmembers, my primary care physician is Dr. Nguyen.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
20. My first friend in California when I moved here in 1979 was named Nguyen. I practiced it hard...
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 03:39 PM
Feb 2016

....because I hate mispronouncing someone's name. She said N'win. Later she and her husband moved to Orange County.

Now we have a young local tv reporter named Nguyen, who pronounces her name Nu-yen. It's now been a couple of generations -- assimilation takes many forms, including changes in pronunciation of one's ancestral name.

When the Eastern Europeans flooded in a century ago, the very spelling of their names often changed at Ellis Island, so at least the Nguyen, Singh, and Patel clans don't have to put up with that.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
25. Nguyen is as common a Vietnamese
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 05:34 PM
Feb 2016

family name as Anderson/sen or Peterson is among MN's Scandihoovians.

Good on those girls, though. Great prank.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
35. IIRC "Hansen" is the most common surname in many parts of rural NW Minnesota.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:18 PM
Feb 2016

Oddly enough, my town (Ulen, MN) didn't have a lot of Hansens, The Norwegian families there tended to come from western Norway and have a lot of place-name based surnames, my own (Seljeset) is an example.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
36. I had an uncle Cliff Hanson.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:34 PM
Feb 2016

All of my mom's 100% German sisters, from Norman County MN, married Scandinavians. An Olsen, a Hanson and a Strand. Uff da. That passed for a semi-mixed marriage in those days. At least they were all Lutherans! There's such a thing as going too far, ya know, dere. My dad was mostly German with a little Scots/Irish.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
29. I don't know why somebody thinks they need to "stand up"
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:06 PM
Feb 2016

Many of those girls are very pretty. As such, my bet is that they were popular with most of their white classmates.

Like it is a big insult if somebody wonders if two people named Miller are related to each other.

Also, my bet is if they could all trace their ancestry back ten generations they would find out that they ARE, in fact, related.

So far, I found out that one of my classmates is a 7th cousin. Even funnier, one of my sister's ex-boyfriends is an 8th cousin. He's actually related TEN ways and we have 7 common ancestors.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
45. Turns out they are twins!
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:12 AM
Feb 2016
"We know what you're thinking, and, no, we're not related," read their shared senior quote. (A lie: Two of the Nguyens are, in fact, twin sisters).

http://gawker.com/5911937/meet-the-ladies-behind-the-nguyeninningest-yearbook-quote-of-all-time

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
53. That, and it's an all-girls Cathothic school?
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 02:52 PM
Feb 2016

So the headline in the OP and article are even dumber than at first sight. Not only was it obviously just a funny little joke, and it is, but I doubt the standing up to their white classmates headline was directed toward a bunch of white girls. Such a stupid headline.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
50. 50 % of Vietnamese have the name Nguyen.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 02:18 PM
Feb 2016

Also the name of the royal family.

Or so I was told by the Vietnamese I worked with in a refugee program.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
51. The last dynasty of Vietnam was Nguyan
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 02:44 PM
Feb 2016

In Vietnam people change their names to match up with the current dynasty...because if you had a the same name as an old dynasty they might kill you.

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